non consentual tickling

[brianspencer66]

Ive talked to people about this and I believe in my heart of hearts there are many out there that say non consentual tickling is wrong, but secretly harbor pleasure in reading (real life encounters) or even seeing it carried to extremes from time to time. People will talk a bluestreak about respect and virtue yet there is that lingering paradox. Am I saying everyone is like that? No! Of course not. But I know some are. I keep reading here about breaking a ticklee or whats the longest someone has been tickled etc. Some even say fuck safewords. Im not saying the people that say these things are bad nor do I choose to judge its mostly in the sprit of fun, I do understand its part of the tickling culture. But think about it a moment, the act itself here is presented mostly with people tied up or in some sort of tight restraint. Though its a contrived non consentual setting. there are 70,000 people here. So how far can lots of us be from thinking this way? There are those that will think of doing things they would never EVER do in real life in regard to tickling someone. Do some of you think about the nonplayful dark side of tickling or think of acting on it? Do you have fantasy of such things. I know this will make many folks uncomfortable, but Im simply trying to be honest with no pretense here. Your thoughts?

 

[-Hari-]

this is a VERY common topic on here and there's been so much input on it already, i would imagine most people wouldn't have the strength to put in another post on it, good luck tho, my thoughts and many others can be easily found via the search feature on this forum, type it into the search bar and you'l find hundreds of posts eating years back on the subject 🙂

 

[Mostly Harmless]

Do some of you think about the nonplayful dark side of tickling or think of acting on it? Do you have fantasy of such things.

Of course.
I don't think it's bad to have such thoughts - its rather strange do NOT EVER have them. But point is to keep them far from realization, isn't it?

I consider such stories/videos/ets is some safe way to satisfy that need (or to splash it out, for authors)...

 

[venray]

I can only echo what Hari has said and ask if folks choose to comment and discuss that they keep the flames turned off and preview their posts before they hit the submit button....


A search of the forum for non con will bring up several threads where this has been discussed in the past....


Good topic if people do not get carried away by emotion.......


As for this.....

But I know some are. I keep reading here about breaking a ticklee or whats the longest someone has been tickled etc. Some even say fuck safewords.

In all of these cases that I have come across, the tickling is still consentual in nature. One cannot take "catch phrases" out of context to illustrate something it is not.....

 

[dskodj]

Do some of you think about the nonplayful dark side of tickling or think of acting on it?

This is what I always thought the fetish was about and personally, what I get off on. The tickle thing being all about playfulness just came to my attention in the past 4 years or so on this forum. Pre that, when I first found this place/discovered the fetish vids, I thought we all were on the same page.

Now of course, im not gonna kidnap some gal and tie her up and tickle torture her...thats just sick and wrong. The only time I "act" on it is in role play with a partner...but in reality its consentual..obviously. It's just the fantasy being fufilled.

 

[brianspencer66]

this is a VERY common topic on here and there's been so much input on it already, i would imagine most people wouldn't have the strength to put in another post on it, good luck tho, my thoughts and many others can be easily found via the search feature on this forum, type it into the search bar and you'l find hundreds of posts eating years back on the subject 🙂

Well I see your point and thanks for the heads up. But you know what lots of things here have been done to death. Perhaps some new people can comment that have not seen this before. If not well thats ok too.

 

[brianspencer66]

I can only echo what Hari has said and ask if folks choose to comment and discuss that they keep the flames turned off and preview their posts before they hit the submit button....


A search of the forum for non con will bring up several threads where this has been discussed in the past....


Good topic if people do not get carried away by emotion.......


As for this.....

But I know some are. I keep reading here about breaking a ticklee or whats the longest someone has been tickled etc. Some even say fuck safewords.

In all of these cases that I have come across, the tickling is still consentual in nature. One cannot take "catch phrases" out of context to illustrate something it is not.....

Well I clearly did not take a catch phrase out of context if you read what I wrote. I went on to clearly explain that I understood it was in the tickling culture. In other words not literal. Im not so sure about flaming but I did read what I started and meant every word. But your right this is a good topic and again with 70,000 people here surely there is room for fresh perspective.

 

[xionking]

Would a sex fiend harbour thoughts of raping a woman?

 

[-Hari-]

Well I see your point and thanks for the heads up. But you know what lots of things here have been done to death. Perhaps some new people can comment that have not seen this before. If not well thats ok too.

oh yeah definatly, im not saying you shouldnt post it or anything, just wanted to point out 1-that if you dont get a flood of replys that than that might be why and also some people get abit touchy about repetitive threads so twas a heads up for that. and 2- basically twas letting you know that theres already loads of past opinions etc for you to read up on the topic, its a very interesting one but as Venray said, it does hit the wrong note with some people soemtimes so we tend to take a deep breath when this subject points out and hope on-one gets funny about it. 🙂

my comments made with the greatest of friendliness 😉

 

[Deleted member 66627]

threads.

http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=2720&highlight=consensual

http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=19850&highlight=consensual

 

[-Hari-]

http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=2720&highlight=consensual

http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=19850&highlight=consensual

aww, look at you go!! 😛

 

[brianspencer66]

http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=2720&highlight=consensual

http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=19850&highlight=consensual

Very good but did you look at the dates those were posted. One was from 2001 and the other was 2002. Long before you were a member. I more than welcome your input as your new here. And if your tired of this well your welcome not to say anything I really dont care its a good subject.

 

[brianspencer66]

aww, look at you go!! 😛

And I welcome your comments too, read above as for the dates those threads were posted. Like I said lots here gets repeated. If you care not to comment feel free not too I really dont care. When I see somthing that bores me I simply skip it.

 

[Sleepy Jean]

Now of course, im not gonna kidnap some gal and tie her up and tickle torture her.

YOU'RE NOT?????

Aw, damn!!!! I was so looking forward.

and you can get VD from the toilet seat, but it's more comfortable in a bed.

 

[RavenMoon]

It is a natural part of our psyche to harbor dark thoughts, just as it is to harbor light thoughts.

Yes... There is going to be a large number of members who will tell you that the thought of binding someone against their will and tickling torturing them is appealing to some degree. However, they would never act upon this impulse as they know well the possible consequences. Freudian super ego keeping the id in check.

This thought of nonconsentual tickling is just one of the smaller violations I myself have impulses for. My own run much darker and deeper, from my blood lust to my thrill of blades and rape fantasies. This is why a well balanced person comes to grips with the reality of these desires and invents fantasies that they can safely act upon. Role playing and other forms of BDSM is where I find my safe release for such things.

For many ticklers who have these fantasies of nonconsentual tickling, role playing becomes a wonderful way for them to have a realistic release.

 

[-Hari-]

Very good but did you look at the dates those were posted. One was from 2001 and the other was 2002. Long before you were a member. I more than welcome your input as your new here. And if your tired of this well your welcome not to say anything I really dont care its a good subject.

im slightly confused, are you refering to crystal or me here? if its crystal she seemed to mearly be giving you links to to old threads to save you time and provide you with some info on the topic, and if it was me,,.. ive been a member since around 2001...

thats not really important anyway

please dont see these comments as a personal attack at you for opening an old subject, its a welcome subject🙂 we`r litrally just helping to share the history of this topic with you as you and others interested may find it useful, theres really no need to justify your reasons for starting this thread, no ones got a problem with it at all, just joining in in a friendly mannor is all 🙂

 

[-Hari-]

anyway, i guess i better include my thoughts for good measure.

personally the idea of non con really interests me regardless to how twisted its reality is. ive often fantasized about it and deep down would absalutely love to carry it out but morals, laws and basic common sense steer me in the opposite direction... lucky for me im quite sane.

same with produced clips of non con, we all know that none of them.. regardless to how real some of them look are genuine, and that ruins it for me to be honest, i know itl probably never happen but if a REAL non con video WAS ever produced somehow and got thru all the legal stuff which i would imagine is near impossible i would have no respect for the monster that did something like that to a human being, and would be very angry and would be all for getting the evil fu%7"er locked away!! BUT, i would LOVE to see the video as well 😉 maybe im a sinner, but curiosity would take its toll there i think,

 

[giggle-maker]

I would like someone to give evidence beyond a shodow of a doubt that the Paradise non-con video was fake.

 

[Deleted member 66627]

Very good but did you look at the dates those were posted. One was from 2001 and the other was 2002. Long before you were a member. I more than welcome your input as your new here. And if your tired of this well your welcome not to say anything I really dont care its a good subject.

Exactly, Doll. The point was to re-inform the new group of the topic of conversation. I have been here enough for three different non-con threads.

Two of which I have expressed an opinion on.

I appreciate your concern as to my ability to respond and discuss a post..I am fully capable of making that descion on my own. Thank you. 🙂

Non-con is a personal preference. One built up mentally, physically and psychologically.

Many legitimitley can NOT handle any term, reference or situation that is based on non-con.

Then there are the ones as mentioned that are curious and almost unsure of if they would/do really enjoy it whether it be by reading a story, watching a video or experiencing it in a play scenario.

Natural instinct is to automatically say/think "Non-con is bad." In many aspects of life this is 100% true.

In aspects of play? Well, to me. If it IS play.. I don't see anything wrong with it. With the right person/personality it can make for a pretty intense 'session' (I hate that word, but it's all I can think of.)

Naturally, I am not going to enjoy hearing or witnessing a girl/guy getting raped legitimitley against their will.

And many people have a hard time seperating fact from fiction, this making it difficult for them to decide/realize that they may actually enjoy a situation involving non-con as long as it is used strictly in the context of play, and is done with someone you trust.

The thread's we're posted to give other's a chance to gather other inputs from previous poster's whether they want to post on them is their descion.

If you notice the after-care thread was a damn near 5 year old thread, and was brought back to life, and by positive reinforcement. So although, I get wanting to have a individual thread there are still others out there.

 

[Deleted member 66627]

I would like someone to give evidence beyond a shodow of a doubt that the Paradise non-con video was fake.

I remember seeing the thread about that..That was one of the more heated debates..and if I remember correct Myriads actually laid pretty solid information down as far as the legitimacy of Videos and Non-Con.

 

[-Hari-]

I would like someone to give evidence beyond a shodow of a doubt that the Paradise non-con video was fake.

because its illegal and wouldnt be for sale etc etc myriads explained it really well in a recent non con thread that got deleted because people were arguing a similar point to this, basically its soooo ilegal to do that to someone that the pure fact that its a produced video proves it, that girl could have sued a that guy for a ridiculas amount more than she would have been payed for it and that guy would have also ended up in jail, but one thing i will say is its definatly, in my opinion anyway, the best attempt ever, paradise claimed they did it again in a non con 2 but unfortunatly its no where near as convincing as the first one, Hat of to them for theyre first one tho, its fooled alot of people and is very beleiveable

 

[-Hari-]

I remember seeing the thread about that..That was one of the more heated debates..and if I remember correct Myriads actually laid pretty solid information down as far as the legitimacy of Videos and Non-Con.

you word it so much better than me 😛

 

[xSamanthax]

I would like someone to give evidence beyond a shodow of a doubt that the Paradise non-con video was fake.

The fact that it was published and sold, legally?

 

[giggle-maker]

because its illegal and wouldnt be for sale etc etc

Here's my problem with that:

First and formost, non-con tickling is known and familiar with our particular group, just the same as tickling as a fetish is known and familiar in our group. Take one step outside of our group into the mainstream, and we're nervous and sometimes even paranoid to "come out" to vanilla friends and family members about our little corner of the sexual universe.

Now, take that a step further and add the court system into the mix. Keeping the above facts in mind...

1. Would a vanilla jury of her peers actualy view this as an assault? She was paid to do a bondage scene and even signed a release form afterward and was paid for the services she gave. As we've seen ourselves thanks to the Tyra Banks show alone, tickling is not widely known outside our circle and a vanilla jury could have an impression of it being a harmless, if not playful, act.

2. Would a jury (vanilla or otherwise) even be allowed to hear the case considering that:

...A. Prostitution itself is illegal and her services were obtained through a call-girl agency that would most likely tell her to keep quiet, not to mention that reporting it to the police would put her, herself, in immediate legal trouble (drug dealers don't call the cops when their drugs are stolen) and...

...B. There was no assault charge pressed or reported by the call-girl after being tickled. Therefor a police report (criminal or otherwise) had never been generated to base a civil lawsuit on.

3. Let's say for argument sake that this WAS real and the call-girl that was tickled actually DID take it to court. We've been given so many great arguments on how, despite its tremendously authentic appearance, it was a fake, that in combination with the hurdles I've already mentioned, would make it an extreamly difficult, if not impossible case to persue.


Thoughts?

 

[Marquis De Sade]

For me, writing about the non-con aspect of it all is an outlet. Like I'm sure it is for most people who read, write and watch the theme. You'd have to really be sick in the head to actually go out and mentally handle doing that to someone else without their consent, let alone carry it out to the end and get even remotely turned on by it.

As for the bondage part of it, since it was mentioned that the recipient is nearly always tied down/up in some fashion...well...I'm sure that's also to prevent the 'ler being kicked in the nuts.