Pedicures at nail salons

[Bmoremd]

So does anyone have any good salon stories they can share?

 

[porcelaindoll2]

Every unique individual has their own take of what is and isn't creepy, but it does seem there are societal standards for what defines creepy behavior. You totally ignored my point of if you're going to do this at least support the nail salon. Will it make it less creepy? No it won't, but at least you'll be giving the nail salon some money instead of mooching. The fact you needed to come up with an excuse means you probably knew they wouldn't just let you sit and watch for free. Unless you have sat in sans excuse and you haven't really said you have yet.

 

[sonnymadler]

Porce, who determines what's creepy? Is it any less creepier to post mainstream tickling clips onto the mainstream section of TMF that will cause others to jerk of to it? Is posting such not creepy? Women in this clips surely didn't think they're making jerk off material for a fetish forum. So I ask again, who decides what's creepy?

The plain fact is masturbation is about as old as mankind, which is why it's common and people expect others to jerk off, as long as it's done for example within the confines of one's own house. And considering that scene of Brigitte Bardot was from a 1960 film (society was way less tolerant in the 60s compared to now), I'm pretty sure she was aware of what she was doing if she went for it, and moreover I doubt she was dumb enough not to be aware of potential pervs who would jerk off to her kinky scenes. Besides, there are FAR creepier fetishes that tickling.

Lurking around public places in search of ticklish feet is NOT common and NOT expected. One just does not encounter that on a regular day. It's something that fetishists without scruples or shame would allow themselves (I'm not saying you're like that, I don't even know you, but that’s the initial impression I get). When I hear of such things, I start questioning the perv's desperation. That's just how I see it. Because if I were a woman receiving a pedicure and caught you glancing at my ticklish reactions, I'd naturally feel less than comfortable and may even ask for someone to guide you out the door. If you don't like my take on this, that's your problem. And as Porcelain said, what may seem normal to one person, may come off creepy/unacceptable to another.

You see it as normal. Fine. There are others who don't. Just accept it

 

[WriterOfSin]

That's interesting, because I see two entirely different schools of thought being played out here. First, we have a few frank and honest guys who have enough self confidence to seek many and varied avenues to meet their tickling needs and talk about the different ways they go about it. Then you have the lonely guys with no tickling in their real lives who hang out on the TMF waiting for the first opportunity to ingratiate themselves to the women by attempting to throw their more imaginative brothers under the bus, saying, "Look at me, ladies. I'm SENSITIVE! I would never do THAT!"

Rather than to follow their own hearts and minds, the lonely guys are perfectly willing to milquetoast their way into the good graces of the ladies by challenging their more imaginative brothers in a facade of gallantry.

I'm going to chuck my two penn'orth in here; I've never seen a more stupid comment. You say 'imaginative', they say 'creepy and sad'. I say little bit weird to venture into a place of business with the intention of procuring no services/products or even checking the prices of said services/products, but rather to see something to help you get off. I can understand if you're there with a friend or you're buying a service yourself; you've got legitimate business, or you're accompanying someone else who does. I can understand if, say, you work in an office building and a female co-worker has a habit of wearing loose pumps, and you take a peek from time to time, provided it's not impacting your work or your relationship with that co-worker. (No being overt, no creeping them out)

As for the notion of recording something like that, good luck with that one. Look, what happens if you're reported to the police? 'Hey, there's a creepy guy in my salon waiting for a friend, but he's playing with his phone and we think he's recording our patrons. Could you send someone to have a look?' Or what happens if they ask for the name of said friend?

 

[Wolf]

If it's not creepy, why do you have to have a cover story for being in someone's place of business?


I swear, if people spent one tenth of the energy just getting to know other people as they did putting together strategies for obtaining spank material without "getting caught", they'd have more action than they knew what to do with. Tickling just isn't that weird, on the grand scale of fetishes. But you'd actually have to interact with people to find that out.

 

[NY ler]

Wolf, what are you even talking about?

So because I have a cover story, that makes it creepy? If your relative asks you what you are doing online right this moment, will you tell them that you're on a fetish forum or will you have a COVER STORY? If so, you must be a creep.

 

[Wolf]

Wolf, what are you even talking about?

So because I have a cover story, that makes it creepy? If your relative asks you what you are doing online right this moment, will you tell them that you're on a fetish forum or will you have a COVER STORY? If so, you must be a creep.

That would only be an appropriate analogy if I were at their house, on their computer.

Try again.

 

[NY ler]

Porce, of course they wouldn't let me sit there if I told them why I'm there. You don't make any sense with me giving nail salon money.

 

[NY ler]

Sonny, c'mon man, you're talking about 1960s, what if you posted a clip of a mainstream actress getting tickled from the 90s that others would jerk off to, would that be more ok than me going to a salon and being totally unnoticeable?

 

[sonnymadler]

Sonny, c'mon man, you're talking about 1960s, what if you posted a clip of a mainstream actress getting tickled from the 90s that others would jerk off to, would that be more ok than me going to a salon and being totally unnoticeable?

Unnoticeable...I doubt it. The first part of your sentence - I'm sure many mainstream actresses of today are accepting of guys masturbating to clips/pictures of them. It's just fantasy. Like I said, it's common, and they have better things to worry about.

 

[DontAskJusTckle]

I'm going to chuck my two penn'orth in here; I've never seen a more stupid comment.

An odd sentiment on which I couldn't help notice you failed to elaborate. At any rate, it's particularly ironic, coming on the heels of "chuck my two penn'orth."

You say 'imaginative', they say 'creepy and sad'.

Yes, I think "imaginative" describes our friend's activities far better than "creepy" does. He's not breaking any laws. Nobody is injured in any way by his actions. The term "creepy" in this context is simply a petty way for some to express personal disapproval.

I say little bit weird to venture into a place of business with the intention of procuring no services/products or even checking the prices of said services/products, but rather to see something to help you get off.

Yeah, it's a little bit weird. And in my opinion, that's a far better and far less pissy way of putting it than "creepy."

Let's face it. We're all somewhat weird for our interest in tickling in the first place. That ship has already sailed.

I can understand if you're there with a friend or you're buying a service yourself; you've got legitimate business, or you're accompanying someone else who does. I can understand if, say, you work in an office building and a female co-worker has a habit of wearing loose pumps, and you take a peek from time to time, provided it's not impacting your work or your relationship with that co-worker. (No being overt, no creeping them out)

When you use the phrase, "I can understand if..." you are essentially admitting that you are using your own moral and ethical codes by which to judge NY Ler's actions. He's not responsible to live by your codes. You don't get to decide if what he does is acceptable, as long as he is not breaking the law.

As for the notion of recording something like that, good luck with that one.

Yes, very complex operation there, requiring much training and expertise.

Look, what happens if you're reported to the police? 'Hey, there's a creepy guy in my salon waiting for a friend, but he's playing with his phone and we think he's recording our patrons. Could you send someone to have a look?' Or what happens if they ask for the name of said friend?

The police would advise them to simply ask the gentleman to leave, and if he declines to do so, then they have reason to call the police.

 

[C.A.B.]

The key word missing from this thread is 'decorum'. All people 'perv' and covet with their eyes. But the difference between Chester the molester and a garden variety soccer-mom is decorum.

 

[NY ler]

Wolf, so 2 identical scenarios, but one you're at your house and two you're at your relative's house, they ask you what you're doing in both cases, you DEVELOP A COVER STORY FOR BOTH = you're a creep!

 

[NY ler]

Sonny, so you're saying MANY main actresses would accept perverts jerking off to their non sexual scenes, but what about those who don't? Did you think about their feelings before posting jerk off material?

You 'doubt' that I'm unnoticeable? Well, I'm telling you that I am.

 

[ticklemepls]

And again- if you need to plan ahead for an excuse as to why you are somewhere you wouldn't normally be.... And have to have a "cover story" to explain your actions then obviously it's wrong on some level or you'd be honest to begin with. It's really not a hard concept.

Just because some of us view this as creepy and wrong doesn't mean we have no "real action" in our lives. 9 times out of 10 it's quite the opposite. We've managed to find people to partake in our fetish with, or ways to get a "fix" without having to be dishonest to do it. But to each their own- you're going to do whatever you want to do so have at it and good luck with it.

 

[Wolf]

Wolf, so 2 identical scenarios, but one you're at your house and two you're at your relative's house, they ask you what you're doing in both cases, you DEVELOP A COVER STORY FOR BOTH = you're a creep!

The scenarios are far from identical; and, despite your compulsion to call everyone a creep (Do you work in a theater? Because that is some IMAX-grade projection there, sport) , there's no cover story in either scenario.

Because:

1: What anyone does legally (So glad I live in Colorado) in their own home is pretty much their own business, and I wouldn't need a "cover story".
2: Who surfs porn at a relative's house on the relative's computer? Who considers that an option?? What is this, I don't even.....

Boundaries, dude. That's how we get along with other people.

 

[DontAskJusTckle]

This idea that a cover story is proof of creepiness or wrong-doing is flat out absurd, and as such, it's indicative of the corner into which the Morality Police have painted themselves, in their desperate attempts to justify their moral haranguing. All a cover story indicates is a reluctance to disclose one's true purpose or intent. There are many possible scenarios in which someone is at a place where they wouldn't normally be, and decide to give a cover story rather than reveal their real reasons. Here are just a couple of examples...

Charles walks down the street and sees his ex-wife coming his way. She hasn't seen him yet. He doesn't want to see her because every time he does, she takes the opportunity to belittle him with her emasculating personality. So he ducks into the closest store which happens to be a gun store. Charles finds guns repugnant and would never consider buying one. But he doesn't want to tell the proprietor that for obvious reasons. So Charles makes up a cover story of being interested in home protection. He browses for fifteen minutes or so and then leaves.​

According to much of the "logic" expressed in this thread, this would make Charles a creep. After all, he's in an establishment under false pretenses, and he's using a cover story.

Renee suspects her husband has been cheating on her. He's out late a lot, sometimes all night. There've been a lot of "wrong numbers" all of them from the same female caller. She follows him one evening and sees him going into a barbecue restaurant. Having been a Vegan for 9 years, Renee grimaces, goes into the restaurant and sits at a table and looks at a menu. The waiter comes. To get rid of him, she orders an iced tea. From this vantage point, she can watch her husband and the woman he's with. The waiter comes back and asks if she's ready to order. She says she needs more time. The waiter disappears and she takes a few candid shots of her husband and the woman with her cell phone. Satisfied, she throws a $10 bill on the table and leaves.​

Once again, we have somebody entering an establish under false pretenses, using a cover story (indecision). According to the parameters set by some of the objectors here, this proves she's a creep. Because after all, if what she did wasn't creepy, why did she need a cover story?

Now that I've laid bare the ludicrocity of the alleged connection between cover stories and creepiness, the Morality Police will no doubt come back and attempt to redefine their ever-changing criteria of what qualifies as creepy.

Just watch.

 

[Wolf]

Because last time I went about two weeks ago. They sat me next to this hot blonde milf, probably mid 40s. She kept twitching just during the initial clipping part. She asked for the Asian lady not to scrub her feet because she was insanely ticklish. The lady giving her the pedicure insisted that she needed it and went ahead and scrubbed. In this salon, each pedicure section has 6 chairs, 3 and 3 facing each other so me and 4 others (2 teenage girls and 2 older ladies) watched this women giggle and thrash around as each of her feet were scrubbed. I've got a ton of these stories for women all ages and myself, I know more people don't care for /m so I'll spare you those but I'll share some others.

The OP could take note of this as how not to be creepy, even when getting what you want. I'd wager that Bmoremd has probably been able to go back to the same place more than once; because he probably wasn't creepy about it. He didn't need a cover story, because he was there to get a pedicure, he was a participant; and he wasn't lurking on the periphery, sucking off whatever pleasure he could, ready to bolt for the exit if questioned. If he'd been creepy, they would have asked him to leave. They obviously didn't.

I've been in the salon/spa industry, and I can assure you, people getting pleasure from pedicures, body treatments, massages, hell, even just having their hair washed, is nothing new.
Pleasure, sexual tension, getting a bit of a thrill, these are nothing new in a lot of businesses where you have contact with the public on a different level than most.
It's the plots, the schemes, the sweaty cover stories, the lengths to which the creepy ones go to to get their rocks off while protecting themselves from any repercussions from getting their rocks off, that makes the difference between a guy getting a pedicure and leaving a good tip, and a pathetic old guy, rubbing his little nubbin against women on the subway in an attempt to get back at his ex-wife, because now, he's a naughty boy. See what a naughty boy he is?

Honest...if someone were to ask a staff member in one of those nail/pedicure joints, "Do you think any of your customers are into tickling?" the response would very possibly be, "Huh?" then a chuckle, and, "Yeah, maybe...but as long as they're not creepy about it, it's cool." Seriously. They deal with much weirder stuff than that. Like people who just sit there and watch, "waiting for a friend".

Tickling, even a tickling fetish...is just not that weird. It's all the shit people pile up around it (usually to protect themselves) that makes it weird.

 

[NY ler]

Wolf, Colorado explains your viewpoints, smoke much?

You're in your own house. Your mother comes in and asks, "what are you doing online". You're on TMF, do you tell her so or do you develop a COVER STORY!?

 

[NY ler]

DontAsk, according to the these moral police's logic, both, Charles and Renee are creeps, but Renee is a lesser creep because she paid $10 to the establishment.

Lolololol WTF!?

 

[Wolf]

Wolf, Colorado explains your viewpoints, smoke much?

You're in your own house. Your mother comes in and asks, "what are you doing online". You're on TMF, do you tell her so or do you develop a COVER STORY!?

1: Yes, I do. It's legal, and we grow our own at our house, for when we don't feel like going to Maggie's Farm in Manitou Springs.

2: I don't live with my mother, and she doesn't come barging into our house. So again, your analogy is as inoperative as it is inept.

You don't need cover stories when things are no one else's business. Lurking around a nail salon (I imagine you can't do that at any place more than once, right?) requires a cover story. I really don't know what your mom has to do with it.

 

[NY ler]

Now its beginning to make sense, your lack of rationale is due to your pot smoking.

You fail to grasp a simple concept that because a cover story is sometimes used, it doesn't make its user a creep!

 

[NY ler]

Wolfie, is a guy a creep if he goes into the mall, not to buy anything but to check out hot chics?

Is he a creep if on a hot day, he walks into air conditioned grocery to cool down but not to buy anything and when asked by a clerk if he needs help, he says that he's looking for mayonnaise? That's creepy!

 

[Wolf]

Yeah, I don't think that was quite the slam you thought it was. While they're both legal, I think you'll find a lot more people on the TMF are okay with smoking pot than they are with lurking around nail salons, feverishly hoping for a glimpse of some spank bank material, and making sure there's a clear path to the exit in case someone asks too many questions. What I do is in my own home, and only involves anyone over 21 who can reach the hookah.

Look, you're free to do whatever it is you want to do, until you run out of nail salons (I have no idea how often you do this, or your willingness to travel, so there's no way of putting a timeline on that), or someone gets wise. Just don't get all defensive because most people don't applaud you for it. Many people here wish to indulge their fetish(es) with willing, real-live people, and that sort of behavior can make it more difficult for them.

 

[Wolf]

Wolfie, is a guy a creep if he goes into the mall, not to buy anything but to check out hot chics?

Is he a creep if on a hot day, he walks into air conditioned grocery to cool down but not to buy anything and when asked by a clerk if he needs help, he says that he's looking for mayonnaise? That's creepy!

These well-thought out analogies are getting sillier and sillier. But, to prevent an impending "You didn't answer, so you're creepy" response, here goes:

At the mall; not unless he's sitting on a bench, staring at the girl at Sunglasses Hut until he's "ready to go home".
At the store; not unless he gets off on lying about mayonnaise.

You keep overlooking/omitting one critical element in all of your "scenarios". If you can just figure out what that is.....or, be willing to admit it.

If you're so sure of your arguments, I'd invite you to posit them to your average New Yorker on the street, and ask them which one is creepy:

Guy who goes to the mall to look at hot chicks;
Guy who goes into a store to cool off;
Guy who goes to a nail salon, hoping it'll give him reason to spank it later.

I would watch the hell out of that Cable Access show.
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