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Pitcher Arrested in Chair-Throwing Incident

Mimi

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Texas reliever Frank Francisco was arrested Tuesday morning on a charge of aggravated battery after he threw a chair into the right field box seats, hitting two spectators in the head, as Oakland A's fans taunted the visitors.

One of the fans, an unidentified woman, was bloodied and her nose was broken in the incident Monday, which happened after a two-out, top-of-the-ninth homer tied the game.

Major league baseball's commissioner's office said Tuesday morning that it was investigating. Francisco was cooperative after he was taken into custody, Oakland Police Department deputy chief Peter Dunbar said.

With two outs in the ninth, Texas Ranger Alfonso Soriano tied the game at 5 on his second homer of the night. Moments later, with the Rangers' Hank Blalock at the plate, the Texas bench and bullpen cleared.

"Tonight, it went over the line," Rangers manager Buck Showalter said. "It was a real break from the normal trash you hear from fans. We've had problems about every time we've come here."

Texas reliever Doug Brocail was seen screaming at a male fan, and the pitcher had to be restrained by his teammates and bullpen coach Mark Connor. Others also had to be held back.

Francisco threw the chair at a fan in a lower box near the Rangers' bullpen along the right-field line. The chair hit one man in the head, then bounced and struck the woman.

Security ran to the scene and a small section of fans was cleared from their seats.

A's manager Ken Macha came across the field to speak to Dave Rinetti, vice president of stadium operations, before play resumed 19 minutes later.

There was talk between the umpires and managers of suspending the game, clearing the stands and forfeiting the game.

The Athletics won 7-6 in the 10th inning.

Rinetti said afterward that the woman was being treated at a hospital for facial cuts and a broken nose and was considering pressing charges. Francisco was escorted by police out an alternate stadium exit after the game and into a car waiting on the field. No arrests were made.

Brocail declined comment, and Francisco wasn't around the locker room afterward.

Francisco, 25, was named American League rookie of the month for August, when he was 3-0 with a 1.69 earned-run average.

credit: cnn.com


Okay, now I myself get pissed at and annoyed by those fans who attend live events and have to make jackasses of themselves by getting "too involved", if you know what I mean. The ones who cuss and swear and scream vulgarities and generally make the game unpleasant for everyone around them. But I don't believe steel chair shots to the face are the answer to the solution. Can't they start implementing some new forms of fan etiquette that allow members of security to eject a fan if they get too vocally vulgar BEFORE something like this happens? Regardless of what those fans said, though, he had no right pulling a stunt like that, and should lose his job for it. Sports are supposed to be for entertainment, not grounds for violence.

Mimi
 
"But I don't believe steel chair shots to the face are the answer to the solution."

LOL!! First off you make it sound as if it was repeated char shots to the face... He threw a chair. Secondly, it was not a steel chair, it was a folding chair.

"he had no right pulling a stunt like that, and should lose his job for it"

The lady had a broken nose and will be getting a lot of cash.. HUGE lawsuit.. Saying he should be kicked out of the game of baseball for this is just ridiculous.. A good firm suspension, fine and then the lawsuit will put the guy in place.. It's not like he had a huge track record of being a badass..
 
Nope. Make an example out of him and kick him out. Assault is a good enough reason. He should be in jail.

Ray
 
venray1 said:
Nope. Make an example out of him and kick him out. Assault is a good enough reason. He should be in jail.

Ray

Get your facts straight. He did go to jail and made bail.. His mugshot is all over the net. Assault happens a lot in sports.. You don't get kicked out of the game from it. I think a suspension till playoff time or maybe for the season, a good fine and the cash he will be giving up in court to the lady will be just.
 
Um...my facts are straight. I said he SHOULD be in jail. Meaning serving time. Learn to be a little more civil in your responses..


Assaults happen "all the time in sports"...Maybe they wouldnt if the offenders were not allowed to participate in sports any longer, instead of them being allowed to throw a little money around.

If one of us threw a chair at a player you can bet it wouldnt go down so easy for us.

Ray
 
I've been watching the rangers play this whole season, and I was shocked, but not suprised. The guy has alwasy been a loose cannon. That said, the fans in oakland are a buncha idiots, but it still didn't warrant a chair being thrown. I'd like to see a proper punishment, but no permanent ban from the game. Maybe this will teach stupid ass fans to keep thier mouths shut.
 
As everyone knows, I'm one of the biggest baseball fans in the forum, and this is how I see it.
Visiting teams get heckled all the time. When the Braves go to New York to play the Yankees and Mets, they get taunted non stop with the mock tomahawk chop, and Larry chant making fun of Chipper Jones name. Heckling and taunting from opposing fans is to be expected, you deal with it, and play the game. These guys are being paid obscene amounts of money, more than 99% of people in this world make, with teams charging us obscene amounts for tickets and refreshments to see these guys. There is NO EXCUSE to attack any fan, no matter what. People pay good hard earned money to keep these guys rich. If you cant handle heckling, dont play.
As for this guy, if he isnt kicked out for life, I would at least suspend him without pay for the rest of this season and all of next season, make him attend anger management, and he should be sued for assault, forced to pay the victims, and serve at least some jail time. You figure players get a year for drugs, so a year suspension seems fair. This guy needs to learn, that you dont EVER attack a fan for any reason. Without the fans, these guys have no game and no big salaries.

Mitch
 
Hmmmm....let's see...

Fans open mouths.
Fans get assaulted.
Fans are injured.

Attacker happens to be a high-payed professional baseball player.
Attacker is arrested and makes bail after arraignment.

End of story? Maybe. Maybe not.

What SHOULD happen?

AFA the criminal charges... The jerk should be treated like anyone else would be treated. He should be tried and convicted of the assault. (I'd personally have tacked on other charges as well.) He should pay the price...preferably imprisonment like most others would face.

AFA any civil charges... He should have to pay any and all expenses resulting from the injuries. (I'd tack on a hefty pain and suffering penalty too.)

AFA his career... He should have a hefty fine. I'm thinking in the million dollar range. He should be suspended from play for the rest of the season. Mandatory counselling to address the anger and desire to lash out should be a condition of his return to active roster.

There is no excuse for that kind of behavior. I don't care who you are. But, that's just my opinion.

Ann
 
This is why they get these ridiculous salaries, to put up with these kind of "heckles". They need to keep themselves in check. However, I musy say, by the same token, some fans take liberties on the athletes. I am not defending what he did, but I want to illustrate a couple of incidents I remember that stick in my mind.

One game a fan was taunting Vernon Maxwell by calling him the N word repeatedly, and finally made a reference to his late daughter. Another time David Wells was warming up in the bullpen and Cleveland fans starting deriding his late mother, you see my pattern.

There should be a line of what fans can say. You can taunt them all you want, but leave other family members out of it. Some fans just cross the line and that's not right either.

Just the same, the chair should NOT have been thrown.
 
Just a suggestion...

When I was pitching in a HS game, I gave up a couple of hits one inning and eventually loaded the bases which resulted in a couple of runs being scored. I heard stuff like "you suck" blah, blah, blah. I just walked up to the kid when it was our turn to bat, gave him a ball, and told him to go out to the mound next inning if he thinks he could do better. I didn't hear a word from him the rest of the day.

Just for the record, we did win
 
also...you would think a 1st place team like oakland would be able to draw a crowd larger than 16 thousand, hell, they can't even draw that. The city doesn't deserve that team.The athletics should move to another city...
 
Did anyone see the anger in those players? Players get heckled all the time but these Oakland fans must have said something really personal. I think that trashy looking A's fan got what her husband deserved. Hell she might have deserved it too.
 
If the fans stay in the stands, not invading the field, and are not throwing any objects into the field area, then nothing they are saying can ever justify assault and battery (in this case, aggravated battery).

That pitcher should be convicted of aggrivated battery, and sentenced to jail time.
 
*sigh* You americans ... . Except for giantfans opinion, I disagree with all of you. Does any of you know what it is to try and give it your best and constantly getting cussed? I find it logical that at some point you just break and do something stupid. Personally, I haven't "broken" yet while playing my soccer games, but I've been on the edge a couple of times. And let me tell you, at that point, getting suspended for a couple of games or so doesn't look half that bad to make those idiots along the line shut up. Heck, they might have never been on a field to begin with !! And yet, they act as though they are the masters of the game.

As for jail time, fines, suspension... .

Suspension? yes, clearly he's crossed the line.

Jail time? I'd say community service

million dollar fine? the woman has a fucking broken nose !! And don't give me that emotionally hurt crap. I've broken a lot of bones in my short lived life so far, and I've never EVER had to pay millions to get it "fixed". Just make him pay for the hospital costs and that's final. She was being a bitch, no need for her to win the lottery too. Then again, you guys live in a country where it is possible to file a lawsuit against McDonalds for making a person fat and still have a chance to win that case. *sigh*

P.S.: GiantFan, you handled that pretty well. Unfortunately, some people have shorter fuses 🙄

P.S.2: I'm not attacking anyone in this post, I just seem to have some trouble comprehending the american legal system from time to time.
 
We live near Oakland, they have the WORST fans on the planet and this guy's an ass~You get paid millions. The heckling comes with the territory. Suck it up.
I too would vote for stronger sentence...

XOXO
 
revolter, I agree with you... to an extent

However, let me add my 2 cents, returnable if not satisfied.

There is a fine line between freedom to say what you want, and harassment. Obviously, for him to throw a chair, something really personal has been said. The fan has no right to say anything personal, anything about a man's family, or anything racial. Yeah, sure, there's heckling, but there is a fine line in that. It is easy for you all to say he should be in jail, but be in his shoes for a minute, and have to put up with the abuse he did. I am in no means condoning it, but I also dont blame him, either

Now afa jail time, suspensions, and fining goes, well this is what I know will happen:

He will be suspended the rest of this year, and probably a good part of next year. He wont serve jail time, because his lawyers will prove he was provoked into the behavior explored. He will probably be sued, but the lady who got hit shouldn't expect a big windfall, because after all, 1)he is a rookie, and isn't making much, and 2)the team will have his back financially, and 3)this action isn't a cause for a huge payday
 
As a poster previously mentioned, he is not the only person who has been harrassed by so-called drunk and disorderly, disrespectful fans. Paying a ticket price is no excuse to behave assinine. I'm sure the organization would prefer paying you to stay home if you're just going to be nasty to human beings (overpaid, yet still human). The difference is that other players managed to get through the game without throwing chairs at the audience. Wasn't exactly his shining moment in the judgement department.

Having said that, as a player, you know some stupid, drunk, jackass of a fan can heckle, harrass, and drive you nuts. If you are unable to handle the pressure, maybe you should reconsider what you do for a living. His reputation is damaged, he may end up with a criminal record, and he's going to be out of some money. Was it really worth it looking at it from that perspective? Probably not!
 
baseball violence

Im not a big baseball fan and I think the guy was wrong for throwing a chair but perhaps if they banned alcohol at these games such things would not happen as often. I have a friend who is a Yankee fan and she has told me constantly that fans not only bother the players but often fight with each other. These guys are not paid big money to put up with shit, they are paid to play baseball and that is the bottom line.
 
FF should be made a clear and evident example of. GONE. HISTORY. Seee ya at a loading dock near you as the only job he will be able to land when he gets out of jail and has a criminal record for agravated assult.

These players think they are above all and it is HIGH TIME it ends HERE. Their cockie attitudes are bigger than their friggin wallets! IF a fan threw something at a player, that is another story if then, that player retaliates but a war of words is nothing and does not warrant such action taken by any player. If someone in a normal job in an office, picked up a chair and winged it at someone, that person would be out on his/her ASS right quick. Sports players should NOT be given special treatment just because they play pro sports. In fact, they should pay a bigger price and should be held accountable moreso because of who and where they are! They are public figures and are expected to SET an example for kids.....now an example should be made OF someone and here is the chance.


TTD:sowrong: 🙄
 
On the surface, I think the team should suspend him for the rest of the year. Mandatory anger counseling and community service is a given. Major League Baseball should suspend him for a year. I don't think that a young man with anger management issues and poor judgement should be kicked out for life though. If charges are brought he should face them like anybody else.

That being said, I have always been taught there are two sides to every story. In this case, it's easy to focus on the end result and the person in the spotlight. Although actually, we're not focusing on a "person", most of us are focusing on a preconceived image (warranted or not, I couldn't tell ya) that we have of a modern day professional athelete, i.e. overpaid, conceited, spoiled, etc.

It's almost like swimming both ends of the pool...because on one hand we say, "he's a professional athelete, paid, and so on.." on the other hand we say "he should be treated like everyone else, no differently.." Clearly the line was crossed and there's no excuse for it, I suppose I'm just not sure there aren't mitigating circumstances when you take into account human nature and error.

As far as Oakland goes, I have family living there, I grew up 10 min from there, I used to regularly go to A's and Warriors' games and in the past few years have gone to Raider games (even with folks wearing opposing team's jerseys!). Maybe I've just been lucky, but I've never seen or experienced any of the "typical Oakland fan behavior". Of course there are jackasses, but I think they are the exception rather than the rule.
 
I'd have to say im rather happy some jackasses from oakland got what they deserved. In all honesty if it was up to me I'd merely fine him a very, very small amount. And I'd harshly increase ballpark rules. but, he will probably be suspended for the rest of the year, nothing more.
 
What i find disturbing is in some to the post Ive read there is a feeling that the ballplayers should be greatful that they are making so much money and that racial or any other verbal heckling is just part of the territory. If any of these guys suffer a bad enough injury that career is over. Nobody would dare say a leader of industry should be greatful but ballplayers are just dummies ripe for abuse. As i mentioned before the guy should not have thrown the chair but how about the problem of alcohol at the stadiums?
 
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