Pro work: Tickling only.

[rhiannon]

Unless you're not hungry.

There are plenty of people who are ONLY into tickling, or tickling and bondage, which Crystal (or whoever) could and would easily accomodate. People who want BDSM stuff will go to a dungeon. Plain and simple.

Agreed. All I'm saying is, the more you offer, the more money you will make.

 

[vladtickleman22]

True, but if there is a dry cleaner who also serves snacks while you wait, they might prefer that over one where you just get dry cleaning. 😉

Absolutely. The client can decide if they want the snacks or not. Offering more services, means making more money. Which is never a bad thing. So it's up to the client if they want to spend the money on the snacks as well as the dry cleaning.

Personally, i'd just want the dry cleaning. To each their own.

 

[BellaRisa]

Jack of all trades, mistress of none...?

Agreed. All I'm saying is, the more you offer, the more money you will make.

You know, that can be very true...but in some cases for every client you get because you offer more services you lose some for not specializing. I'm not trying to argue, I'm honestly speaking from experience: Often a client will prefer someone whom they feel has dedicated themselves to one or two *specific* interests and they believe will therefore be very, very skilled. I'm not saying that's the case, I'm saying often customers think that way. Heck, in my vanilla childcare business I've gained clients who love that I care for ages 0-5, and lost clients who wanted someone who only took infants. And Shadow Lane, the #1 spanking video company for the last 20 yrs, has thousands of devoted customers because they KNOW spanking, that's what they do 🙂

I'm SO not saying you're wrong, just saying there's a pretty valid other side to specialization

 

[rhiannon]

You know, that can be very true...but in some cases for every client you get because you offer more services you lose some for not specializing. I'm not trying to argue, I'm honestly speaking from experience: Often a client will prefer someone whom they feel has dedicated themselves to one or two *specific* interests and they believe will therefore be very, very skilled. I'm not saying that's the case, I'm saying often customers think that way. Heck, in my vanilla childcare business I've gained clients who love that I care for ages 0-5, and lost clients who wanted someone who only took infants. And Shadow Lane, the #1 spanking video company for the last 20 yrs, has thousands of devoted customers because they KNOW spanking, that's what they do 🙂

I'm SO not saying you're wrong, just saying there's a pretty valid other side to specialization

You know what, I think that is why malls are so popular....a lot of specialists all together in the same building! 🙂 So you get the best of both worlds! 🙂

 

[meangry]

You not only tried, you did very well. Anyone with common sense understood your point perfectly 🙂

I keep reading the insinuation that only jobs that require certification are 'real' jobs. That's just ridiculous, if you spend quality time honing your craft and deliver a fine service that's in demand you often don't need to be 'certified'; hell, the gentleman that repaired my oven just this afternoon isn't certified and never went to school for what he does; he's just been doing it for 31 yrs after learning the all-around handyman business from his father, and now he employs 5 other men that he's trained himself over the years. His service is excellent, his prices more than fair, he's put two children through college from his small business...but he's not 'certified' so I suppose his career is worthless. Or are we only applying such cretin rules to sexual/adult services? 🙄

I love how you try so hard to make something seem like common sense because it fits in with your comfortable schema of what is and isn't. And like him, you are going off and deciding because someone says 'certification' to go on a off-topic rant which you think fully captures not only the essence of your 'valued' belief, but shows others just how erroneous it is to dare go against what is, for you beyond logical.

But you've never truly done a suitable job in doing so because you paint in too wide a stroke, and do so in such a jagged, mangled fashion that you showcase pigheaded stubbornness which is trying so hard to feign educated opinion.

When the topic of doctors and teachers came up, it's simple: this potential pursuit has no correlation with those sorts of career fields. None. You can't family business your way into a teaching job without certification. You can't run a practice without certification.

And TKLMAN played some Ad-Libs with someone with a Bachelors in English. I'm sorry, but attempting to substantiate your view by replacing words in a paragraph does not show a sufficient level of depth to be taken seriously.

So, yeah, common sense for you. How about I call the Rochester Police Department and see what they say about your common sense.

...so you don't actually know what you're talking about regarding these specific subjects and you're making 'educated' assumptions for the sake of being contrary. Alrighty then

The same is true for you 🙂

Alright folks, I realize that people are enjoying the snarkiness of this thread but let's tone it down, the insults aren't necessary to make your points.

No. Diminutive statements window dressed as objectivity are the way to go. Because the best way to get across diminutive behavior is to embed it in a practiced, politically correct manner.

Which is cool, if that's your thing. If you think that people are really so stupid they can't see through a thin veil, it's totally the way to go.

 

[Babyshambles]

I like meangry.

I can do business with this man.

I love how you try so hard to make something seem like common sense because it fits in with your comfortable schema of what is and isn't. And like him, you are going off and deciding because someone says 'certification' to go on a off-topic rant which you think fully captures not only the essence of your 'valued' belief, but shows others just how erroneous it is to dare go against what is, for you beyond logical.

But you've never truly done a suitable job in doing so because you paint in too wide a stroke, and do so in such a jagged, mangled fashion that you showcase pigheaded stubbornness which is trying so hard to feign educated opinion.

When the topic of doctors and teachers came up, it's simple: this potential pursuit has no correlation with those sorts of career fields. None. You can't family business your way into a teaching job without certification. You can't run a practice without certification.

And TKLMAN played some Ad-Libs with someone with a Bachelors in English. I'm sorry, but attempting to substantiate your view by replacing words in a paragraph does not show a sufficient level of depth to be taken seriously.

So, yeah, common sense for you. How about I call the Rochester Police Department and see what they say about your common sense.



The same is true for you 🙂



No. Diminutive statements window dressed as objectivity are the way to go. Because the best way to get across diminutive behavior is to embed it in a practiced, politically correct manner.

Which is cool, if that's your thing. If you think that people are really so stupid they can't see through a thin veil, it's totally the way to go.

 

[girlboundforfun]

What do I need to do to get that job???

One does not look to get the job, one starts one's own business. Then, that one calls the shots. A bit like you did as a model. You knew that the client would go elsewhere, but let him go because you chose not to do what he wanted. Good move, by the way.

 

[rhiannon]

One does not look to get the job, one starts one's own business. Then, that one calls the shots. A bit like you did as a model. You knew that the client would go elsewhere, but let him go because you chose not to do what he wanted. Good move, by the way.

Yes, but you know, if I actually had to live from being a model, if it wasn't just a hobby with occasional extra money, I couldn't have passed on those 200 Euro, I would have had to do the gallow thing!

I know some girls who don't have another job and just make money modelling. They are really, really beautiful, and they do some awful photo sessions with terrible photographers. It always makes me sad to see! 🙁

 

[girlboundforfun]

The client says what, the client says when, the client says how much.

The client is in control.

The client says what - because he wants something. He doesn't necessarily want it from you, it just wants it from someone like you.

The client says when, because he is the one buying the service.

The client says how much - not directly mind you, but indirectly as part of the market which has decided how much this service is worth.

The seller decides what will be sold.

The seller decides when.

The seller decides how much.

If the client doesn't like it, he can go down the street and find someone else because others will like it.

I have a business and I get to decide what I will and will not do. I work with elderly, but will not do diapers. Okay, I have done that but it was my choice for a client who had been with me from the beginning. I also did hospice in that case, but I was the one to make the choice.

Specialized services and owning your own business give you those advantages.

 

[girlboundforfun]

Hmmm...I don't know....I look shitty with wigs and mini skirts! 🙂

I bet not! Bet you look a lot better than you think.

 

[Babyshambles]

...

Do you enjoy your work?

I thought long and hard about making fetish videos for this fetish (and for other fetishes of mine).

I went as far as to buy the equipment, set up the models and get everything ready to go.

I planned to do it alongside my other business interests.

In the end I couldn't do it - because I decided it would simply destroy my soul. I wouldn't want that.

 

[girlboundforfun]

True, but if there is a dry cleaner who also serves snacks while you wait, they might prefer that over one where you just get dry cleaning. 😉

These are both good points, but I prefer the one who will do the best job of dry cleaning, which would be the whole point...dry cleaning...not snacks. But that again is just me.

 

[girlboundforfun]

Unless you're not hungry.

There are plenty of people who are ONLY into tickling, or tickling and bondage, which Crystal (or whoever) could and would easily accomodate. People who want BDSM stuff will go to a dungeon. Plain and simple.

See, and that is me. I would pay only for tickling and probably pay more because I know that's all that would happen. I would be paying for good tickling and feel safe that tickling would be all that would happen.

 

[girlboundforfun]

You know what, I think that is why malls are so popular....a lot of specialists all together in the same building! 🙂 So you get the best of both worlds! 🙂

I hate malls and I hate places like Walmart because of that. Appealing to the masses and not just me. I don't think you get the best customer care there because they try to do too many things. But again, most people like the one-stop shopping.

 

[waitin2btkled]

So who's got the BALLS to open a public tickle shop if everyone came to a resolution????

 

[girlboundforfun]

Yes, but you know, if I actually had to live from being a model, if it wasn't just a hobby with occasional extra money, I couldn't have passed on those 200 Euro, I would have had to do the gallow thing!

I know some girls who don't have another job and just make money modelling. They are really, really beautiful, and they do some awful photo sessions with terrible photographers. It always makes me sad to see! 🙁

And that is my whole point with this. Crystal would be in essence the beautiful model doing the awful photos if she compromised her business and did other things that the masses wanted. I am very glad that you didn't do that to yourself either. It is sad when people do that. And don't discount your own looks. Beauty can be many things.

 

[girlboundforfun]

Do you enjoy your work?

I thought long and hard about making fetish videos for this fetish (and for other fetishes of mine).

I went as far as to buy the equipment, set up the models and get everything ready to go.

I planned to do it alongside my other business interests.

In the end I couldn't do it - because I decided it would simply destroy my soul. I wouldn't want that.

I love my work. Just don't ask me that when I have a cherished client become too ill. Then, I cry and swear that I will change careers.

 

[BellaRisa]

Slightly OT:

I hate malls and I hate places like Walmart because of that. Appealing to the masses and not just me. I don't think you get the best customer care there because they try to do too many things. But again, most people like the one-stop shopping.

Let me say, I try to hate on the soul-less Big Huge stores that sell 4000 different things, I really do, and I despise Walmart...but I do shop at Meijer and similar places and I MISS Woolworths; as a working mom I can't hate on a store where I can get cookies, a hamster, and new sneakers all in one store at 1am

So who's got the BALLS to open a public tickle shop if everyone came to a resolution????

ME. And I'd call it Bella's House of Vellication. And BBQ and Foot Massage

 

[KrazieDog]

ME. And I'd call it Bella's House of Vellication. And BBQ and Foot Massage

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I had to! 😉

 

[vladtickleman22]

Let me say, I try to hate on the soul-less Big Huge stores that sell 4000 different things, I really do, and I despise Walmart...but I do shop at Meijer and similar places and I MISS Woolworths; as a working mom I can't hate on a store where I can get cookies, a hamster, and new sneakers all in one store at 1am



ME. And I'd call it Bella's House of Vellication. And BBQ and Foot Massage

Just don't accidently mix up the foot sauce with the BBQ sauce!

 

[Musicroxmysox]

In the end I couldn't do it - because I decided it would simply destroy my soul. I wouldn't want that.

That is your decision and there is nothing wrong with that.

Just like there is nothing wrong with people making their own decisions to earn money however they wish. Isn't that the point of freedom of choice.

Seriously, no one on here has a right to belittle anyone about their choices. I think this thread has gotten far out of hand, and people are just being to name call. It honestly makes me sad to see this throwing of harsh words back and forth. Honestly the original question has almost disappeared at this point.

 

[solescratcher99]

In the end I couldn't do it - because I decided it would simply destroy my soul. I wouldn't want that.

Awesome! That just leaves more room for Buddhists! You see, we don't have souls, so there's nothing that can be destroyed. 😛

 

[LeeAllure]

So who's got the BALLS to open a public tickle shop if everyone came to a resolution????

ME. And I'd call it Bella's House of Vellication. And BBQ and Foot Massage

I'd do it, too 😉 (but no BBQ - I'll leave that for the southerners!)

Jo, if you want to do it, do it. The things you should think about, other
than what Mils said, are having at least 2 spaces, like a therapists office,
where people wait in one room, and the second office space has a
back door clients can leave by for their privacy. You might want to consider
soundproofing. If you just rented out a hotel room, the noise levels may
eventually cause you to be denied their service. Or even an office space.
And doing it in your home is not practical for many, many reasons. I'm
sure you can come up with those on your own.
Whether you specialise in tickling only and come into NYC 1-2 days a week
with pre-set appointments, or you find a local space to rent, you'll want
to make sure that your income far outweighs the expenses, and if you need
a bodyguard, to include that cost as well.

Lee

 

[Babyshambles]

I think Jo is better than doing this to be honest.

That's not to say that there is anything wrong to doing this, but I just don't think it is a suitable use of her talents.

I'd do it, too 😉 (but no BBQ - I'll leave that for the southerners!)

Jo, if you want to do it, do it. The things you should think about, other
than what Mils said, are having at least 2 spaces, like a therapists office,
where people wait in one room, and the second office space has a
back door clients can leave by for their privacy. You might want to consider
soundproofing. If you just rented out a hotel room, the noise levels may
eventually cause you to be denied their service. Or even an office space.
And doing it in your home is not practical for many, many reasons. I'm
sure you can come up with those on your own.
Whether you specialise in tickling only and come into NYC 1-2 days a week
with pre-set appointments, or you find a local space to rent, you'll want
to make sure that your income far outweighs the expenses, and if you need
a bodyguard, to include that cost as well.

Lee

 

[JesseinSD]

All this talk of ethics and morality. I want to hear Crystal Light describe the kind of session that she wants to do.

Kis123's comments were right on about the pragmatic realities of what it would take to make this work from a business point of view. But if all you want is just to do something that you enjoy anyway and get paid for it once in a while, does it really matter if you make a little or a lot?