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puppy training...i need some advice

giggleygirl25

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i have an adorable 9 week old lab/spaniel/retriever mix puppy...her name is Oreo...unfortunately she is into chewing,biting and the like..a usual puppy...anyways i was wondering if anybody here has any advice on how to curtail it...i have a one year old nephew and really don't want to have to get rid of her if she got too rough with him, aside from her chewing and biting..she's a good dog(she's quickly learning house breaking). i'd appreciate any help offered, thanks for listening
 
I don't know if you live near a PETsMART or not, but if you do, they offer a pretty good training class for puppies, and another for dogs. Whether or not that is an option, I can give you a little advice on my experiences with my Great Dane. The things my wife and I learned about dogs and their behavior, is that as pack animals, they actually do not want to be the leader, so you've got to make sure they understand that YOU are in control, otherwise they won't respect your commands.

Another thing is that they are so pack-oriented, that they need to constantly be told what to do to keep occupied, otherwise they resort to biting and chewing on things as a sign of being bored. The training class I took at PETsMART gave several suggestions on how to deal with this.

The basic training principles they use is to reward good behavior. If the puppy is doing something wrong, you don't want to punish it directly, such as hitting it, because then it doesn't learn that what it is doing is wrong, but rather it learns to resent you for hurting it, and it will only respect your commands while you are around, such as laying on the couch when you leave the room.

As far as what to do about "negative" behaviors, such as chewing, in your case, they have stuff you can buy, like Grannicks' Bitter Apple, which is a spray you can use on things to deter chewing. It's completely non-toxic to the animal, but it tastes terrible if they attempt to put it in their mouth. This way the dog will think that it brought the result upon itself, rather than blaming and resenting you.

If you don't like this approach (Some people refuse to use it, even though it's harmless.), then you have to make sure that the dog has plenty of toys or things you designate that it is ALLOWED to chew on so that it doesn't chew on anything valuable. Also, you have to train the puppy to know the difference. When the puppy chews on something good, reward it and give it praise, using a pleasant, reassuring voice. If it starts mouthing something it shouldn't, use a kind of loud, short, terse negative sound. Perhaps something as simple as "Hey!" or "AAAT!" You gotta sound like a pack leader.

As far as keeping the dog from hurting your nephew by biting him depends on how you want to approach it. Dogs like to roughhouse with other dogs, and it sees humans as other dogs in its pack. We were discouraged from roughhousing altogether, because it puts you on the same level as the dog, and makes the dog think of you as a peer rather than a leader (Isn't canine psychology complex?). This is where I went wrong, because I love roughhousing with my dog. If you're okay with your nephew playing with the dog in such a way, understand that even though dogs can look and sound dangerous with their bouncing and snarling, they never intend to cause harm when they roughhouse. A lot of people don't understand this, and assume the dog is being vicious. If you've ever seen two dogs roughhousing, and one gets bit too hard, it will yelp. The other dog will realize it hurt its fellow pack member, and will not bite that hard again. The same goes for humans, since they see us as members of their pack. You can prevent the dog from ever biting anyone too hard by teaching it to bite gently. Using dog treats, try to give the puppy a treat the "wrong way" (with your palm-side down, holding it in your fingers so that the puppy can't really get the treat without biting you). When the puppy tries to bite the treat and makes contact with your hand, yank your hand away and yelp, still holding the treat, and repeat this without giving up the treat until the dog bites "gently". Oh, just a side note, you should use a soft treat, because hard, crunchy treats take time to chew, and by the time the dog is done with the treat, it will have forgotten what it did to get the treat (I think it's about a 3-6 second attention span.).

For other negative behaviors like jumping on people (something all dogs/puppies do out of instinct that has something to do with getting their mother's attention.), you don't want to pay attention to the dog at all, because it will associate any sort of a response as the desired result. All it is trying to do in this situation is gain attention.

Whew! Okay, I hope this helps you in your endeavors. Just remember that training puppies requires a lot of work, patience, and love.
 
wow Flatfoot :wow:

that was some awesome advice....i'm not even a dog owner, but i thought that was super!

(and now I know why my brother's dog still keeps jumping on me when i go to visit. lol)
 
Flatfoot....I agree, awesome advice! I am a behaviorist but work with children not dogs...I was going to try and modify some techniques I feel would be effective to give to GG but after reading your post I would simply be reiterating what you have suggested🙂 I would also be much more rambly and less grammatically correct, lol. Good luck GG, he sounds adorable🙂
 
Thanks, guys. I was afraid I WAS being too rambly!
 
thanks for the advice everybody...i'm definitely enrolling her in obedience classes...i'll have to find that bitter apple stuff...does petsmart carry it??? my sister suggested pepper but i'm not sure i want my stuff smelling like pepper....i'll have to get her some soft chewy treats...right now we have the hard bisquits made especially for puppies for when she does her thing outside....when i have some pics of her (my sister took some when i first brought her home) and someway of posting them i will 😀


p.s the funny thing about the baby is that he will tell us when he's had enough playtime with the puppy...he pushes her away and then we pick him up and we put them in their respective areas...he in his crib, her in her crate/box/plastic storage bin because i'm too broke to buy her a real crate🙁
 
We invested the time and money to enroll my dog in an obedience class. If this is your first dog, it would be good for you to do it cuz you will learn some techniques to make things a little easier for you to deal with some issues.

One thing I agree with Flatfoot on wholeheartly is that YOU have to be the one in charge otherwise the dog will walk all over you. Another thing is that if there is any other adult in the house, THAT PERSON needs to be just as authoritative as you, otherwise, like your children, the dog will play both of you.

Dogs are not stupid creatures.
 
thanks giant...actually it's my second dog...but this one is so completely different from my previous one (who we had to put to sleep on Mardi Gras)...my dad is helping me with her...mom doesn't do dogs...course i knew that going into it...she doesn't like dogs...my sister helps when she can...but i'm the caretaker of this adorable ball of fur...😀
 
Ah ha, why did I not see this thread sooner. giggley, here's the basic deal, a 9 week old is not really at the age where you can do a whole lot of training. You can start with the basics, but expect an attention span of about 5 seconds. One thing is make sure the puppy always has access to chew toys. Try something like a Kong where you can put some yummy enticing treats inside, there are specific ones made for teething puppies. Make sure you rotate toys, allow 3 at a time and rotate them every week to 2 weeks.

As for the biting and nipping of fingers there are different aversives out there. putting "bitter apple" or other "nonefuntastes" on your fingers and/or arms is a good way to break that.

When you notice the puppy chewing something other than it is allowed, and make sure you are actually catching her in the act because puppies won't remember anything past 30 seconds, use a firm "no" and replace it with something she is allowed, and then praise her for playing with the good toy.

If a negative tool is needed, try using a spray bottle with water. Just spray it towards her if she is getting mouthy or chewing a "bad" toy. if the regular water does not work well, try adding a little bit of vinegar to it, and that should do it.

I do recommend referring to a behaviorist if you know of one in your area. Your veterinarian or local pet store should be able to make an adequate referral. Make sure their recommendations are positive reinforcement based. Anything that recommends physical force or isolation is a very bad idea, and will lead to further behavior problems. Once the puppy reaches 3-4 months of age real training can begin, Petsmart and PetCo both have excellent programs as Flatfoot mentioned.

Any further questions feel free to e-mail me, or PM me on yahoo. Good Luck!!

Pawz
 
thank you 4Pawz...yeah i noticed the attention span thing you mentioned..although she is getting better with not taking things out of the garbage in the bathroom...where do i find that bitter apple spray?
 
Your vet clinic will carry it, as will most petstores, and I think even Target and Walmart carry an "off brand" of it.

Pawz
 
Yeah......puppies! My favorite thing about this time of year...

I don't need to add anything - everyone has already given you excellent advice and I knew Pawz could handle this with her eyes closed. Just wanted to reiterate a few things - obedience classes are an excellent way to go and great for socializing your dog, too. But many of them require your puppy to be up to date on shots (I don't recommend puppy classes until at least 12 weeks of age or the second set of vaccines - which includes Bordetella for our clinic). You don't want your puppy to inadvertently come home with parvo or any of the other devastating diseases. As for the sprays, Bitter apple, bitter orange, lime, you name it...any of those is good. We carry bitter mist...but be forewarned...spray in a well ventilated area! That stuff can knock you out with the vapors alone. The newest non-tasty stuff we use (not necessarily for puppy proofing mind you) is called Yuk. The name says it all. I also often recommend aerosol antiperspirants which contain alum (test a spot before you spray it all over - it may stain wood). When playing with an overzealous puppy, I often tell the owner's children to sit on their hands (out of site, out of mind) and to have a toy handy for the puppy to play with. I agree with Pawz - Kongs are excellent 🙂 you can fill with small kibble or peanut butter or whatever. If all else fails, one of my mentors often suggested locust branches. He said the wood was not too hard or too soft. Of course, you have to supervise the affair. Sigh.....we never did curb my pound puppy. She destroyed a lot of woodwork around here. I also tell new owners that puppies are like children - sometimes they need a time out. If the puppy is playing too aggressively and no other methods have deterred it or calmed it down, then 5 minutes it its crate/carrier whatever should help. Good luck!
 
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