Quentin Tarantino...

[Adam]

Just wondering if anyone else feels the same way about this dude as I do. Do you ever get the impression that Tarantino is just one sick dude? Why can't this guy make a movie without someone, in some way or another, being gruesomely dismembered in some fashion? All the dismembered limbs from Kill Bill Vol. 1, the gruesome double eye-gouging of Elle Driver in Vol. 2 (one via flashback)... and then there's "Hostel". Now, I realize the guy who directed "Cabin Fever" is behind this particular film, but Tarantino's name is attached. I've seen some of the spoiler scenes from this movie. Jesus. Seriously sick, disturbing imagery. Really, I respect a filmmaker's right to express themselves... but I get a creepy, disturbing vibe from Tarantino. Don't get me wrong... I think the man has done some good work. I thought the buried alive scene with Uma Thurman in KBv2 was a brilliant touch. The fight coreography in his films is also fantastic. But why all the graphic gore? Maybe it's because I subscribe to the John Carpenter/Deborah Hill philosophy that gore is not scary... but rather, disgusting (as they stated after filiming the original "Halloween"), and that suspense is the key to a great thriller. I'm not trying to come off like a puss... but really. What is Tarantino's obsession with severed limbs, gouged out eyes, and the like? Can anyone explain this to me?

 

[Goodieluver]

Just wondering if anyone else feels the same way about this dude as I do. Do you ever get the impression that Tarantino is just one sick dude? Why can't this guy make a movie without someone, in some way or another, being gruesomely dismembered in some fashion? All the dismembered limbs from Kill Bill Vol. 1, the gruesome double eye-gouging of Elle Driver in Vol. 2... and then there's "Hostel". Now, I realize the guy who directed "Cabin Fever" is behind this particular film, but Tarantino's name is attached. I've seen some of the spoiler scenes from this movie. Jesus. Really, I respect a filmmaker's right to express themselves... but I get a creepy, disturbing vibe from Tarantino. Don't get me wrong... I think the man has done some good work. I thought the buried alive scene with Uma Thurman in KBv2 was a brilliant touch. The fight coreography in his films is also fantastic. But why all the graphic gore? Maybe it's because I subscribe to the John Carpenter/Deborah Hill philosophy that gore is not scary... but rather, disgusting (as they stated after filiming the original "Halloween"), and that suspense is the key to a great thriller. I'm not trying to come off like a puss... but really. What is Tarantino's obsession with severed limbs, gouged out eyes, and the like? Can anyone explain this to me?

Bear in mind eli roth deserves the credit for hostel, tarintino is just a name to give it substance. Eli wrote and directed it, he called tarintino about an add he saw in a thai magazine that said for 10,000 u can torture and murder someone, so they developed the movie from that. Also, tarintino simply steals from other directors and americanizes it all, so your question should be why is tarintino obsessed with asian gore movies and stealing their plots

Also far as i know, true romance doesnt have any dismemberment, nor does reservoir dogs if u dont count the ear cutting. Thats his style, just like ed wood focused on the suddenness and didnt care if the shot was messed up or low budget, its what he felt was good.

 

[Adam]

Bear in mind eli roth deserves the credit for hostel, tarintino is just a name to give it substance. Eli wrote and directed it, he called tarintino about an add he saw in a thai magazine that said for 10,000 u can torture and murder someone, so they developed the movie from that. Also, tarintino simply steals from other directors and americanizes it all, so your question should be why is tarintino obsessed with asian gore movies and stealing their plots

I hear ya. 😉 I know Roth was the director. I just don't understand why Tarantino seems to be such a gore-magnet. It makes me question his mental state.

 

[Goodieluver]

I hear ya. 😉 I know Roth was the director. I just don't understand why Tarantino seems to be such a gore-magnet. It makes me question his mental state.

gore sells

look at takahashi miike

 

[leafstk]

Pulp Fiction was genious, at the time at least.... honestly, what he's made since has been total garbage

 

[Goodieluver]

Pulp Fiction was genious, at the time at least.... honestly, what he's made since has been total garbage

The only thing good about kill bill 1 was sonny chiba and michael madsen

 

[amk714]

I've seen both volumes of Kill Bill, and I thought the movie was all right. From what I've read, Quentin Tarantino says that the gore and violence in it is so over-the-top, because the movie is meant to take place in a sort of fantasyland. Also, the British and American versions of the film were actually toned down for audiences, in contrast to the Japanese version, which is fully uncensored. Their culture is even more tolerant of "sick" stuff than ours is, but that doesn't make it any less inferior. That's just how they view the world.

I'm not defending the guy, and the movie should definitely be viewed by adults only (it narrowly avoided an NC-17 rating). But as long as his films do well at the box office, and most people can tell the difference between fantasy and reality, he'll continue to do what he does best. I don't think that makes him "sicker" than the average person. Anyone who's offended by his work doesn't have to see it.

P.S. If you're familiar with his flicks, I think you'll agree that he has a serious foot fetish. 😀

 

[Goodieluver]

I've seen both volumes of Kill Bill, and I thought the movie was all right. From what I've read, Quentin Tarantino says that the gore and violence in it is so over-the-top, because the movie is meant to take place in a sort of fantasyland. Also, the British and American versions of the film were actually toned down for audiences, in contrast to the Japanese version, which is fully uncensored. Their culture is even more tolerant of "sick" stuff than ours is, but that doesn't make it any less inferior. That's just how they view the world.

I'm not defending the guy, and the movie should definitely be viewed by adults only (it narrowly avoided an NC-17 rating). But as long as his films do well at the box office, and most people can tell the difference between fantasy and reality, he'll continue to do what he does best. I don't think that makes him "sicker" than the average person. Anyone who's offended by his work doesn't have to see it.

P.S. If you're familiar with his flicks, I think you'll agree that he has a serious foot fetish. 😀

True but i think we're also familiar with uma thurman's ugly feet
now from dusk till dawn, id def drink whisky off them toes of salma's

 

[Butterfly wings]

What is Tarantino's obsession with severed limbs, gouged out eyes, and the like? Can anyone explain this to me?

And what is wrong with gore and severed limbs and gouged out eyes and such?

Coming from a horror fan and a fan of the horror genre. That is a key part in horror movies i'm not saying that you always NEED gore and blood to make a movie or movies scary because you don't at all surely not. But it doesn't hurt any to have thoses elements in todays horror films. 🙂

I will be renting tarantino's new film once it comes out on dvd. And just because you do one or two scary movies does not make you a horror director in my opinion.

 

[leafstk]

yeah, sorry Alex 🙁 Foot fetish or no, his movies have really sucked, IMO 🙁 I enjoyed the first Kill Bill, I guess the cartoonish aspect made it amusing... but nothing short of a barefoot Jessica Alba will convince me to see KB3, heh

 

[jugner]

Just wondering if anyone else feels the same way about this dude as I do. Do you ever get the impression that Tarantino is just one sick dude? Why can't this guy make a movie without someone, in some way or another, being gruesomely dismembered in some fashion? All the dismembered limbs from Kill Bill Vol. 1, the gruesome double eye-gouging of Elle Driver in Vol. 2 (one via flashback)... and then there's "Hostel". Now, I realize the guy who directed "Cabin Fever" is behind this particular film, but Tarantino's name is attached. I've seen some of the spoiler scenes from this movie. Jesus. Seriously sick, disturbing imagery. Really, I respect a filmmaker's right to express themselves... but I get a creepy, disturbing vibe from Tarantino. Don't get me wrong... I think the man has done some good work. I thought the buried alive scene with Uma Thurman in KBv2 was a brilliant touch. The fight coreography in his films is also fantastic. But why all the graphic gore? Maybe it's because I subscribe to the John Carpenter/Deborah Hill philosophy that gore is not scary... but rather, disgusting (as they stated after filiming the original "Halloween"), and that suspense is the key to a great thriller. I'm not trying to come off like a puss... but really. What is Tarantino's obsession with severed limbs, gouged out eyes, and the like? Can anyone explain this to me?

I'm sure he thinks that when he cashes his checks.

 

[Butterfly wings]

 

[Goodieluver]

Also for gore, why does no one talk about George Romero and his zombie love\gore. Same if not worse gore wise than tarintino

 

[Butterfly wings]

Also for gore, why does no one talk about George Romero and his zombie love\gore. Same if not worse gore wise than tarintino

Because most normal movie goers/teenagers don't even know who George Romero is. Really the only ones that do are the true horror fans of the genre. I would say that it's the same for gore wise between Romero and Tarintino although Romero is the better of the two at getting it out thier to his fans and always putting in great gore shots and scenes in his movies. Since he has been doing zomibe movies far more many years then tarintino has been filming.

 

[Adam]

And what is wrong with gore and severed limbs and gouged out eyes and such?

Coming from a horror fan and a fan of the horror genre. That is a key part in horror movies i'm not saying that you always NEED gore and blood to make a movie or movies scary because you don't at all surely not. But it doesn't hurt any to have thoses elements in todays horror films. 🙂

I will be renting tarantino's new film once it comes out on dvd. And just because you do one or two scary movies does not make you a horror director in my opinion.

I never claimed Tarantino was a horror director. It's just curious to me that he seems to have gone away from what made his previous films so good. He didn't *need* that stuff before. Sure, "Pulp Fiction" and "Resevoir Dogs" both had their violence. But none of that violence would make an audience member want to puke. If you've read any accounts of the screenings for "Hostel", you'll know what I mean. I'll put it to you this way. My best friend is a big horror buff. He loves the stuff, gore and all. He saw some of the footage of "Hostel" with me. Even he was like, "oh... my... GOD". And not in the good way. 😉 Don't get me wrong. I understand where Roth and Tarantino are coming from here. They wanted to make a film that scared us into thinking this type of sick, horrifying, nightmarish stuff could actually happen. That there are actually deviants out there who take pleasure in torturing, maiming, and killing human beings. It's just a little weird to me, personally, that his last 3 films (call "Hostel" a collaboration if you will) have been basically remembered for gross, shock-value moments. If I were Tarantino, I'd want to expand my horizons a bit. Enough with the shock-value, bloody, limb-shredding mindlessness. He's good at what he does, so how about seeing him tackle a real drama? Maybe even a comedy? It seems to me that he's seen what works for him in making bloody, violent movies, and he doesn't seem to try to expand. I don't begrudge him for making as much money as he can, but how many blood 'n' guts films can you make before you get stereotyped?

P.S. Yes, severed limbs and missing eyes are a staple of recent horror films. But one question you shuld ask yourself is... what is the last truly great horror movie you've seen? 😉

 

[Adam]

I'm sure he thinks that when he cashes his checks.

And I don't begrudge him that. But really, I'm just trying to create conversation. I'm a little mystified as to whay Tarantino feels the need to get all gore-happy in all of his recent films. The man has talent. I'd like to see him expand his horizons.

 

[Hiryu]

I for one thoroughly enjoy gorey movies. I've always been fascinated with such things. Was it the old movie "The annihilator" where the hero lowered a crook into an industrial meat grinder? Too bad they didn't show anything beyond his plea for mercy. Also in "The Mangler" The ragged contents of Ms. Frawly being shown laying at the end of the speed ironer is interesting but, not realistic. I've read the story several times and can tell you that there would be no sewing her back together. I was also disapointed with the lack of gore in the movie "Christine". The book was extremely and pleasantly graphic.

I guess I'll have to see those Kill Bill films after all. They sound interesting. That new movie, Hostel, I saw the ad for it lastnight. Looks like it might be about abduction and torture. Guess I'll find out soon enough! 😀

Come to think of it, I can't really think of any movie right off that's gore seemed real to me but, on the other hand, anime gore can be nice at times. Akira is good for that as is Angel Cop, Fist of The North Star, The Professional, Vampire Hunter D and a few more out there.

 

[Goodieluver]

Because most normal movie goers/teenagers don't even know who George Romero is. Really the only ones that do are the true horror fans of the genre. I would say that it's the same for gore wise between Romero and Tarintino although Romero is the better of the two at getting it out thier to his fans and always putting in great gore shots and scenes in his movies. Since he has been doing zomibe movies far more many years then tarintino has been filming.

With the fame of late with land of the dead, shaun of the dead(parody but homage to romero) and dawn of the dead remake, his name is being more well known by even casual movie go'ers

 

[Goodieluver]

Despite how much tarintino loves to steal ideas from japanese movie ideas\plots, he will never come close to the genius of street fighter or any takahasi miike films(audition or ichii the killer)

 

[HisFlyinFingers]

Well, I can't speak for Tarantino's motivations regarding recent movies, but I can speak for their reception among my generation. With the importance of the internet and an increased feeling of nostalgia at present, many 18-25 year olds have seen an extremely wide scope of visual images, including gore. Young movie buffs will know which movie is the goriest of all time, and they've probably seen things online that are too disturbing to go into any commerical movie. Recent movies have shown that gore yields approving audience reactions (not only Kill Bill, but Saw and others), and so pushing that envelope is probably the best possible marriage of risk and safety for Tarantino.

Also, I don't believe his last three movies are a good barometer of his personal direction, considering the already stated facts that Kill Bill 1 and 2 are homages to the traditionally extremely gory Japanese samurai genre, and Hostel is his in name only. It's probably more of a coincedence than a concious pattern.

Oh, and he definately has a foot fetish. Unless I'm mistaken, he's relatively open about it.

 

[IrishTickle]

Well, one thing you have to bare in mind with Tarantino, is that he makes movies he'd like to see. And because of the success of Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, he now has the power to do it. And I say more power to him! He's doing what he loves, and it's exactly what I would do. And it's what a lot of other writer/directors do. Take Robert Rodriguez for example. With El Mariachi, Desperado and Once upon A Time In Mexico, he made the same film three times simply because he felt he could do it better.

You see, although the money is a great incentive (and a major factor in movie making), not all writer/directors care about that. They just love amking films.

 

[Hiryu]

That's true. As a boy, Tarantino was heavily influenced by blacksploitation films and that is what he likes to create. Tarantino is trying to show today's generation a cool part of 70's cinema. I have Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown collectors editions and this is talked about in the special features of Jackie Brown who is suposed to be Foxy Brown in her mid 40's. Because of this and because I too am into some elements of the 70's, I now find that I would like to see Foxy Brown and a lot of other 70's movies in that genre. Tarantino may be violent but, he is an awesome director and the actors get along great with him. I'm looking forward to a little of his twisted humor in Hostel.

 

[ViperGTS]

1) You're just mad because he knows how to make unimaginable amounts of money and you don't.

2) You like watching the movies anyway, so what are you complaining about?

 

[Adam]

1) You're just mad because he knows how to make unimaginable amounts of money and you don't.

2) You like watching the movies anyway, so what are you complaining about?

A little too black and white, Viper. Why would I be jealous of his success? I just think that, as a talented filmmaker, he'd want to expand a bit and go into other genres. If he wants to keep making the types of movies he'd like to see, then more power to him. I just find his recent films to be way too predictable. KBv2 will likely be the last of his movies I bother to see for a while.

 

[Goodieluver]

A little too black and white, Viper. Why would I be jealous of his success? I just think that, as a talented filmmaker, he'd want to expand a bit and go into other genres. If he wants to keep making the types of movies he'd like to see, then more power to him. I just find his recent films to be way too predictable. KBv2 will likely be the last of his movies I bother to see for a while.

What other major establish film directors did different genres. You look at spielburg, a major action director, yes he had done some toned down movies but theyre still focused on action

Its like you want george lucas to do a documentary on sea urchins, cuz its an expansion

Luke skywalker meets the sea crab