Relative freakishness

[Black Hat]

I'm not sure if I should post this topic here, as it deals with our community versus another very controversial one.

I know that some people are afraid to share their sexual interests with others, and to varying degrees we feel repressed in society. I just recently learned about another community of people who make the vast majority of us seem mainstream. I'd like not to get graphic in this discussion because this can be a very charged issue. In fact I wouldn't be surprised to see this post deleted due the fear to discuss this. I'm talking about pedophiles.

I do not endorse sex with minors. I have come to understand, however, that they are not necessarily predators or evil people. They simply have feelings for and sometimes sexual attraction towards children. This doesn't guarantee that they are rapists or molesters. Like some of us with foot fetishes society only gets to see the freaks among them.

What I want to point out is that if you ever feel like you're different in a way that society might not approve of...just consider the pedophiles' lot in life. They're likely to be jailed just for hinting they might be a pedophile.

Food for thought.

 

[Bugman]

I do not endorse sex with minors. I have come to understand, however, that they are not necessarily predators or evil people. They simply have feelings for and sometimes sexual attraction towards children. This doesn't guarantee that they are rapists or molesters

How else can they sastify themselves,other then by raping and molesting children?If this is not evil,sick behaviour i dont know what is.

 

[ChosenofMystra]

I do not endorse sex with minors. I have come to understand, however, that they are not necessarily predators or evil people. They simply have feelings for and sometimes sexual attraction towards children. This doesn't guarantee that they are rapists or molesters

How else can they sastify themselves,other then by raping and molesting children?If this is not evil,sick behaviour i dont know what is.

Well said Bugman! Not much in this world disgusts me, but child molestors are one of those things that do.

Normally I don't condone violence, but I wouldn't blink twice if all child rapists were castrated with a dull, rusty butter knife.

Misunderstood individuals my ass! They're sick fucks, nothing more.

 

[venray]

I'm not sure if I should post this topic here, as it deals with our community versus another very controversial one.

If you consider pedophiles to be a "community" then you have your own serious issues to deal with....

I say lock em up for lfe...no parole...first offense...

 

[steph]

No wonder I like you...
XOXO

If you consider pedophiles to be a "community" then you have your own serious issues to deal with....

I say lock em up for lfe...no parole...first offense...

 

[Mastertank1]

My heart bleeds cold borscht for them.

If the pedophiles lot in life is so horrible, then by all means let us show them mercy by euthanizing them as soon as possible.

They are not curable. They cannot sublimate their desires. Unless they can control themselves until they die, sooner or later they will do harm to a child, and that harm will scar the child for life.

My father, who is now safely beyond prosecution because he died in 1964, once executed a serial child rapist who had diplomatic immunity.

The statute of limitations having long since expired on this case; I will admit that I have done the same. I wouldn't hesitate to do so again, and take my legal punishment for it, even in a state with the death penalty.

I feel that strongly on the matter. I see no reason for child rapists to continue living.

Mitch
aka

 

[cloudgazer2k]

I'm not sure if I should post this topic here, as it deals with our community versus another very controversial one.

I know that some people are afraid to share their sexual interests with others, and to varying degrees we feel repressed in society. I just recently learned about another community of people who make the vast majority of us seem mainstream. I'd like not to get graphic in this discussion because this can be a very charged issue. In fact I wouldn't be surprised to see this post deleted due the fear to discuss this. I'm talking about pedophiles.

I do not endorse sex with minors. I have come to understand, however, that they are not necessarily predators or evil people. They simply have feelings for and sometimes sexual attraction towards children. This doesn't guarantee that they are rapists or molesters. Like some of us with foot fetishes society only gets to see the freaks among them.

What I want to point out is that if you ever feel like you're different in a way that society might not approve of...just consider the pedophiles' lot in life. They're likely to be jailed just for hinting they might be a pedophile.

Food for thought.

as being one who has advocated against such acts, i have to say that i am appalled by this generalization of a heinous crime. to say that pedophiles aren't predators or evil people, how about considering the scumbags who pay money to have kids swiped from their home or school, and videotaped doing disgusting acts.

children that have been made victims of these crimes are never the same; many going through life never being able to function due to the mental scarring they endured.

it isn't that society doesn't "approve" of such acts. it's against the law for a reason.

there are people in other countries that want to legalize child pornography and pedophilia. personally, i hope each and every scumbag that would lobby for such is drawn and quartered. and let me tell ya something: foot fetishists and people who want to have sex with kids are very different people. and to lump them together like how you did is a bit disturbing. true, some people have taken things too far with their fetishes, but they are in the minority when it comes to pedophiles.

no...pedophiles are people who are beyond sick. to make them seem like ordinary people is like saying Gacy wasn't a bad guy.

 

[Bugman]

and let me tell ya something: foot fetishists and people who want to have sex with kids are very different people. and to lump them together like how you did is a bit disturbing. true, some people have taken things too far with their fetishes, but they are in the minority when it comes to pedophiles.

Its more then disturbing,its not even in the same solar system.

 

[cloudgazer2k]

Its more then disturbing,its not even in the same solar system.

i tried to type down my thoughts as best as i could, but you are very much correct.

 

[ChosenofMystra]

Its more then disturbing,its not even in the same solar system.

Agreed as well.

I'm sorry for the venom, but anyone who actually feels pity for these worthless walking piles of molecular waste is just as fucked up as they are.

 

[Ayla ny]

I am betting that the poster does not have children and was never molested as a child.

Just because it is a sexual compulsion that they can not control does NOT make it ok. There are people who have strong desires to eat people. Again, not ok. I am not sure how to help these people… but I am a big believer in the rights of their victims (even potential victims) being put far above those of the poor shmuck with the sick compulsion.

My only sympathy comes with the belief that their twisted thing is the result of being victim to someone else’s twisted thing, somewhere along the line.

I go by the rule of - Anything between human, consenting adults is ok by me.

 

[aurora5150]

and the sad thing for the children out there is pedophilies cannot be "cured" of thier disgusting behaivor. all medicine can do is keep them on meds that make them so tired that they are almost comatose. and even that punishment is not enough.

and i can't even bring myself to think of the psychological damage done to the children they prey upon. there is no punishment bad enough for these "creatures". it makes me beyond sick.

 

[starfires]

There is a difference between a person who wants to do something illegal and immoral but does not do it, and a person who goes out and does it.

I do not endorse sex with minors. I have come to understand, however, that they are not necessarily predators or evil people. They simply have feelings for and sometimes sexual attraction towards children. This doesn't guarantee that they are rapists or molesters

How else can they sastify themselves,other then by raping and molesting children?If this is not evil,sick behaviour i dont know what is.

They don't satisfy themselves, obviously. They live their entire lives having no release for their sexual energy -- the ones that don't give in to the urges, anyway. And before you demand the execution of every single person that ever felt lust towards a child, think what that tells the ones who didn't follow up on that lust.

Believe it or not, some people have no difficulty controlling their sexual behavior. Yes, even men.

 

[starfires]

They are not curable. They cannot sublimate their desires. Unless they can control themselves until they die, sooner or later they will do harm to a child, and that harm will scar the child for life.

Actually, there is an electroshock conditioning therapy that works some of the time, according to my introductory Psych class. But the patient has to want to be cured, obviously.

The statute of limitations having long since expired on this case; I will admit that I have done the same. I wouldn't hesitate to do so again, and take my legal punishment for it, even in a state with the death penalty.

Last I checked, there was no statute of limitations on murder. Even then, I'd probably do the same thing, though I would have to be very sure that they did it. When you attack a person with Diplomatic Immunity, you risk not only the punishment for yourself, but a war with that person's country of origin. It's not a very high risk, though, unless USA happens to be the offended party.

 

[ovation]

and the sad thing for the children out there is pedophilies cannot be "cured" of thier disgusting behaivor. all medicine can do is keep them on meds that make them so tired that they are almost comatose. and even that punishment is not enough.

and i can't even bring myself to think of the psychological damage done to the children they prey upon. there is no punishment bad enough for these "creatures". it makes me beyond sick.

Absolutely correct, they cannot be cured and some offenders have even said so themselves . . . this subject makes me really angry . . . the devestation of human life from any sex offence is irreversable, unforgivable and those responsible deserve the worst punishment permissable. For those who prey on children . . . these people are seriously sick, twisted individuals and it grieves me to think that even our taxes are used to keep these f****ers alive! Apologies if I'm coming across in a bad light here, but I can't help it where this subject matter is concerned. I better stop writing now before I go too far . . .

 

[lespieds]

Here is my question - how come this particular subject keeps coming up?
I have no interest in it but it seems a few people do.
what gives?

 

[Mastertank1]

I caught him in the act, and had been told by three other victims.

Actually, there is an electroshock conditioning therapy that works some of the time, according to my introductory Psych class. But the patient has to want to be cured, obviously.Last I checked, there was no statute of limitations on murder. Even then, I'd probably do the same thing, though I would have to be very sure that they did it. When you attack a person with Diplomatic Immunity, you risk not only the punishment for yourself, but a war with that person's country of origin. It's not a very high risk, though, unless USA happens to be the offended party.

In New York back then, there was a 7 year limitation on murder 2, non-premeditated.

In any case, if tried my defense would be that he fought back with a deadly weapon (he had a knife) when I interrupted him in the act of committing felony forcible rape of an 8 year old. As I was barehanded I did not have the luxury of holding back until I could subdue him with a nonlethal move. Chances are the local DA would have excercised prosecutorial discretion and not prosecuted.

I do not think what I did was wrong.

 

[starfires]

In any case, if tried my defense would be that he fought back with a deadly weapon (he had a knife) when I interrupted him in the act of committing felony forcible rape of an 8 year old. As I was barehanded I did not have the luxury of holding back until I could subdue him with a nonlethal move.

Yep, that qualifies as being very sure that he did it. Being killed with bare hands is not a very pleasant way to go, as far as I know... Good choice!

 

[drew70]

What if a pedophile never once touches a child inappropriately, or molests them in any way? What if he/she just entertains thoughts, masturbates in private over children's pictures in clothing catalogues, and never pursues any action? Do we lock em up with no parole just for having a kink they probably never asked for?

I think it's way unrealistic to insinuate that such inclinations will ALWAYS lead to acts of molestation. There are gay people who never pursue relations with the same sex outside of fantasy and imagination. There are ticklephiles who are perfectly happy to indulge their fetish strictly with media and self-gratification.

I agree that molestation is intolerable and any offense should be dealt with strictly and heavily. But unless a pedophile crosses that line, I maintain he/she is innocent of wrongdoing.

 

[cloudgazer2k]

What if a pedophile never once touches a child inappropriately, or molests them in any way? What if he/she just entertains thoughts, masturbates in private over children's pictures in clothing catalogues, and never pursues any action? Do we lock em up with no parole just for having a kink they probably never asked for?

I think it's way unrealistic to insinuate that such inclinations will ALWAYS lead to acts of molestation. There are gay people who never pursue relations with the same sex outside of fantasy and imagination. There are ticklephiles who are perfectly happy to indulge their fetish strictly with media and self-gratification.

I agree that molestation is intolerable and any offense should be dealt with strictly and heavily. But unless a pedophile crosses that line, I maintain he/she is innocent of wrongdoing.

if a pedophile did all that and never took the chance to ruin some poor child's life, then they cannot be arrested for simply thinking about it. BUT, i would hope that if someone found out, they would talk the person into therapy. unfortunately, as many ticklers will admit to, sometimes the bare feet of a friend or significant other just poking out invites a tickle or three. and sometimes, that tickler follows through. what if the pedophile, once secure in fantasies and never bringing them into reality, takes a similar opportunity?

even the best of us can't ignore an inviting tickle spot....and i would only hope a to-be-pedophile wouldn't follow through with ruining a kid's life as easily as we would tickle someone.

 

[starfires]

unfortunately, as many ticklers will admit to, sometimes the bare feet of a friend or significant other just poking out invites a tickle or three. and sometimes, that tickler follows through. what if the pedophile, once secure in fantasies and never bringing them into reality, takes a similar opportunity?

There is a difference in kind between briefly tickling an (adult) friend or significant other (who has not previously said that you should never do such a thing), and sexually touching a child. One is merely annoying, the other is firmly against law and custom.

even the best of us can't ignore an inviting tickle spot....and i would only hope a to-be-pedophile wouldn't follow through with ruining a kid's life as easily as we would tickle someone.

Speak for yourself, please. I have no difficulty refraining from tickling people when it isn't a good idea, no matter how inviting their tickle spots look. Maybe you should get some counseling to help you restrain yourself when necessary.

 

[cloudgazer2k]

There is a difference in kind between briefly tickling an (adult) friend or significant other (who has not previously said that you should never do such a thing), and sexually touching a child. One is merely annoying, the other is firmly against law and custom.Speak for yourself, please. I have no difficulty refraining from tickling people when it isn't a good idea, no matter how inviting their tickle spots look. Maybe you should get some counseling to help you restrain yourself when necessary.

you may not have that difficulty, but for some it isn't easy. but please don't insult my capacity to restrain myself.

there may be a difference, and none of what i stated was fact, only a minor comparison. however, i have seen and dealt with enough people that were molested to know that, sometimes, even the most discreet pedophile lets their urges get the best of them.

 

[starfires]

you may not have that difficulty, but for some it isn't easy. but please don't insult my capacity to restrain myself.

even the best of us can't ignore an inviting tickle spot....

I took that statement to mean that you count yourself among the number of people who can't ignore an inviting tickle spot. And by "ignore", I assume you mean "not tickle". If I misunderstood you, I apologize. Otherwise, I stand by my statement. If given what you said, you find the suggestion of counseling insulting, then I think you need more counseling.

there may be a difference, and none of what i stated was fact, only a minor comparison. however, i have seen and dealt with enough people that were molested to know that, sometimes, even the most discreet pedophile lets their urges get the best of them.

How do you know that you've seen the most discreet pedophile? By definition, you only know about the ones that aren't discreet enough.

 

[cloudgazer2k]

I took that statement to mean that you count yourself among the number of people who can't ignore an inviting tickle spot. And by "ignore", I assume you mean "not tickle". If I misunderstood you, I apologize. Otherwise, I stand by my statement. If given what you said, you find the suggestion of counseling insulting, then I think you need more counseling.How do you know that you've seen the most discreet pedophile? By definition, you only know about the ones that aren't discreet enough.

honestly, starfires, the only thing i need counseling on is my issues with depression. what i found insulting was your assumption.

now, on to the topic at hand: i have never known a pedophile, only their victims. and i say again, not everyone can control their urges. some urges are stronger than others, and i have seen and been around enough to know that some of the best people on earth can be a demon in disguise, and will let their desires become reality. i can only hope that any "closet pedophiles" will keep their fantasies to themselves rather than take them out on some young soul.

 

[Oddjob0226]

How else can they sastify themselves,other then by raping and molesting children?If this is not evil,sick behaviour i dont know what is.

If I don't get what I yearn for sexuallty, when it is appropriate, I masterbate and it involves absolutely no one else.



Yeah, like I'm the only one.