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Review the Damn Clips

kcantankerous

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Hello All,

I have noticed there are many complaints and this model isn't ticklish stuff going around. However, you have folks like Auddi Juniper, Lily Haze, and Kenplaystheguitar who actually make threads asking us what we want to see. I'm sure there are other producers who do this as well but I'm concentrating on these folks for now.

If you bought some of their or other clips take the time to review them. We need to change this dynamic of, oh I'm satisfied so no need to review, otherwise the only info we get are from people who either hate the clip or from fanatics who simply love anything with a hint of tickling involved.

I have seen Ken ask for feedback to try and make his site better, and it is almost like he is asking the question to himself. Yet many of you wont hesitate to bemoan how this or that is not shown.

On another note, stop whining about how producers are in it for the money. Sorry folks getting ticklish models isn't like some crowd sourcing endeavor. Their time costs money, Clips4sale costs money, the studio, lighting, and outfits, other equipment. The outtakes and retakes the sifting through the pretenders from the real deal. Seriously, I think that the ones that complain about the money aspect never worked or are happy worker bees. Seriously 6-10 bucks is not going to break some of you if your truly interested in a particular clip. Considering that Clips4Sale takes a significant chunk of the action on each sale.

Anyways, how about we show more constructive feedback than resorting to complaining aimlessly about how producers are trying to make a buck. Lily puts out images and tries 3d and what not and for a while people seemed afraid to comment.

The other thing I'd like to mention is that it would be helpful for those who review articles to state either in their profile or one the actual review what their preferences are. For example if you enjoy say RelentlessTKLR's work (which I hear is very good) you would probably rate Virgin Pink Soles extremely low. Same thing if you like heavy bondage. However, those who like playful tickling would rate Virgin Pink Soles high and maybe RelentlessTKLR low. So it would help those of us who are trying to make a decision better get a full feel for the reviewers biases.

For example if I went and rated TA's heavy bondage clips (where the woman's arms are tightly bound and legs too and I left my bias in there I would probably rate it low. That being because I dislike heavy bondage. Guess what though, he has tickling situations I like to see (i.e. the couch tickling stuff) and if I only saw those and was biase I'd rate him extremely high.

Anyways this is a rant for sure but let us give constructive feedback. For goodness sakes if a producer takes the time to ask what do you want to see it would be nice to answer. In the end they will look at their sales and gravitate toward that direction if no constructive feedback is given.

Lastly, in another thread (about the faker clips) a member commented that there are many psychological aspects to ticklishness. Some models may be ticklish if they are comfortable, some giggle in anticipation, others laugh silently, others scream, some flinch, etc. I think it is funny that some of you believe you can determine if one is ticklish or not watching things unfold on a computer screen. Not everyone is going to howl like a hyena or flop like a fish.

Also remember that comfort level, someone may feel more ticklish if they are not, I don't know, stretched on a rack or bound with their feet over their head. Anyways this thread was about giving feedback, lets do that instead of bitching about how we don't get to see what we want. You show interest and or proof of purchase to a producer and I'm sure you'll have their ear. It ain't free folks.

One other thing, if you see a clip or clips you dislike from a producer please give detailed reasons why you feel that way and name the clip in question. Making a blanket statement about a producer does not give us any info and frankly makes the critic seem like they have a personal vendetta.

I am officially off my soapbox and let the flames consume me.

P.S. If you provide all types of suggestions and they are granted, how about actually buying the clip. I did this with Lily Haze. I told her I'd like to see X and she eventually made the clip Tickled for Rent, and guess what I bought it. In the grand scheme of things my two purchases didn't make her money back, however I also supplied a fair review (I really enjoyed both parts BTW). Ken actually said he'd try and get a model for me and I asked him which clips in his store would fit my tastes; he candidly replied and I bought them. Guess what, they were just what I prefer and he is continuing to help me out with my request. The moral of this (long) P.S. is to point out that some producers do give a damn (including those that I did not mention in this thread) and if they provide you with content that you especially ask for, hit the buy button.

Thanks,
K
 
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I'd like to see c4s44000 Asian Foot Ticking Fastest Fingers in the East release some more clips. There's nothing better than a beautiful ticklish woman from south east asia....except perhaps a cure for cancer......or a never ending bacon sandwich....drools**
 
By the way, I'd like to see someone review the "review the damn clips" review. Is that too much to ask?
 
Hello,

If you have read this thread earlier and are about to respond or flame me, please look at the P.S. that I edited in in the original post.

Thanks,
K
 
I totaly agree! Have updated my signature with preferences and is ready to review!
 
The only professional clips I've seen beginning to end are on MyFriendsFeet.com and a few Nick Harmon videos my bf bought me for Christmas, so ... I doubt anyone here is interested 😉
 
The only professional clips I've seen beginning to end are on MyFriendsFeet.com and a few Nick Harmon videos my bf bought me for Christmas, so ... I doubt anyone here is interested 😉

If it interests you and its about tickling why not throw a review on the forum. Knudus good call on adding your preferences to your signature. Thia, welcome to the forum and yes please review my damn review lol.

I think sometimes members, not all, but a significant number will take more time to complain about what they are not getting than suggest what they want. Also the "in it for the money" stuff is getting old, at least to me. If I'm a producer and I get a whole bunch of suggestions and tried them all and no one buys, guess what I'm outa business and panhandling before long. Even if the business is a supplement I highly doubt there are any ubber wealthy producers who can afford to run loss making clips indefinitely.

I think in terms of business or at least try too anyways. I'm not saying to give pretenders a free pass, just if you don't like a clip state your reasons why and name the clip. That is why I think it is important to lay out your bias first and foremost. That why the reader could get an overall feel for the content.

Too much "give me something for nothing" going on in general. Don't get me wrong I like free stuff as much as the next person. Even with my modest means I still try to support these producers who do a good job and put effort into their hobby/business. Sorry for the rambling.

Thanks,
K
 
Nearly anytime I mention m/m there's a generalized "Ewwww! boys are icky!" reaction, so I've tended to avoid doing so wherever that has been possible.
 
If it interests you and its about tickling why not throw a review on the forum. Knudus good call on adding your preferences to your signature. Thia, welcome to the forum and yes please review my damn review lol.

I think sometimes members, not all, but a significant number will take more time to complain about what they are not getting than suggest what they want. Also the "in it for the money" stuff is getting old, at least to me. If I'm a producer and I get a whole bunch of suggestions and tried them all and no one buys, guess what I'm outa business and panhandling before long. Even if the business is a supplement I highly doubt there are any ubber wealthy producers who can afford to run loss making clips indefinitely.

I think in terms of business or at least try too anyways. I'm not saying to give pretenders a free pass, just if you don't like a clip state your reasons why and name the clip. That is why I think it is important to lay out your bias first and foremost. That why the reader could get an overall feel for the content.

Too much "give me something for nothing" going on in general. Don't get me wrong I like free stuff as much as the next person. Even with my modest means I still try to support these producers who do a good job and put effort into their hobby/business. Sorry for the rambling.

Thanks,
K

I have to say that I appreciate your ability to see things from a producer's point of view. To be sure, producing clips isn't the hardest or the most unpleasant of jobs (I have two other jobs that are a lot less fun!) but speaking for myself, it is continual work and requires an extraordinary amount of financial input. The running costs do actually make it very stressful, particularly if certain clips don't sell or if you go through a dry patch where sales are right down - the same as any other business with high overheads.

The truth is, every month I will spend money shooting clips with models that I cannot sell - either because they are not ticklish enough, or just the scenes don't work out right for whatever reason. I will not release clips that I am not happy with and this means that money goes down the drain as the model gets paid the same whatever happens, and their travel costs etc are the same too. In my experience this is the only way to get really good models and produce clips that I am happy with - you have to shoot some terrible models in order to discover the really great ones. This is why I personally find it so annoying when people look at something and go 'oh yeah that's fake..', based on an often misguided assumption about how the model should be behaving, and not realising that bad scenes will likely never get released anyway.

I'm not saying that bad videos don't ever get made or that 'fake' vids have never been released, simply that I don't think it happens very often at all. The reality is that to fake a video would be tedious and extremely difficult as people can't just laugh on cue for long periods of time - it certainly would be much easier to produce a clip with someone who is ticklish than to spend time trying to make something usable with someone who isn't.

I also agree with your comments about constructive feedback. We all want to produce clips that people want to see at the end of the day (although not every producer is going to be to ever individual's tastes), and actually hearing what people like to see is certainly more useful than just hearing why certain people hate certain things. Thanks for helping to get these points across.

:turtle:
 
Nearly anytime I mention m/m there's a generalized "Ewwww! boys are icky!" reaction, so I've tended to avoid doing so wherever that has been possible.

Hello Stockytickler,

I say to hell with those who comment in such fashion. As you may have noticed there are people on this forum who do like m/m style tickling. I've seen some posts here and there from individuals who love those type of clips. I have also seen individuals, who will not be named, that tend to feel it is their moral obligation to shame individuals and or determine their sexual orientation based on their preferences.

We cannot help that aspect. However, I think it would be a great service to the producers and those who silently or vocally enjoy the same content as you do if you post a review. If nothing else when the trolls come, and come they may, you will have at least one ally in fending them off.

I was once one of those trolls years ago, but I like to think that I've matured since then. I can confidently say there are at least 50 members if not many more who would benefit from your feedback on such material not least the producers of the content of your preference.

Thanks,
K
 
I have to say that I appreciate your ability to see things from a producer's point of view. To be sure, producing clips isn't the hardest or the most unpleasant of jobs (I have two other jobs that are a lot less fun!) but speaking for myself, it is continual work and requires an extraordinary amount of financial input. The running costs do actually make it very stressful, particularly if certain clips don't sell or if you go through a dry patch where sales are right down - the same as any other business with high overheads.

The truth is, every month I will spend money shooting clips with models that I cannot sell - either because they are not ticklish enough, or just the scenes don't work out right for whatever reason. I will not release clips that I am not happy with and this means that money goes down the drain as the model gets paid the same whatever happens, and their travel costs etc are the same too. In my experience this is the only way to get really good models and produce clips that I am happy with - you have to shoot some terrible models in order to discover the really great ones. This is why I personally find it so annoying when people look at something and go 'oh yeah that's fake..', based on an often misguided assumption about how the model should be behaving, and not realising that bad scenes will likely never get released anyway.

I'm not saying that bad videos don't ever get made or that 'fake' vids have never been released, simply that I don't think it happens very often at all. The reality is that to fake a video would be tedious and extremely difficult as people can't just laugh on cue for long periods of time - it certainly would be much easier to produce a clip with someone who is ticklish than to spend time trying to make something usable with someone who isn't.

I also agree with your comments about constructive feedback. We all want to produce clips that people want to see at the end of the day (although not every producer is going to be to ever individual's tastes), and actually hearing what people like to see is certainly more useful than just hearing why certain people hate certain things. Thanks for helping to get these points across.

:turtle:

I appreciate your words Turtle. I have admired your content for sometime and I do plan on being a paying customer of yours soon. I have often said, with much sincerity, that I would gladly switch lives with you even with the two mundane jobs. I have praised you in other threads, not least, for the way you present both previews and a decent selection of pics to give the viewer a pretty good grasp of what the clip contains.

Also, though I prefer bare feet, you provide content that nylon fans have an opportunity to appreciate. I actually like how you start with nylons and then end with them bare makes both sides happy. The problem I face with your site is that there is a preponderance of content and I can't narrow it down to one or two clips lol. I seriously have a spreadsheet mindset that weighs numerous factors before I purchase clips, or anything for that matter.

Course, getting hit by the layoff ax didn't help matters. Never the less, as with Ken, Tommy, and Lily I will stand by what I've said earlier and be a consumer of your content in due course.

Thanks,
K
 
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