Hopefully this answers your somewhat polite questions of sorts... too late to edit.
Not at all -- I occasionally look in various subforums because I enjoy them, I'm as much a freak as anyone else here, pardon me for bolding but that breaks up my droning & this doesn't penetrate the (others) Troll-Speak in this forum so bolding is doubly necessary:
I've said SO many times I enjoy Non-Con in *fantasy, in more than one format---- If it looks real I feel obligated to say/ask -- to be sure no one's abused. Not a terrible thing. When I was new 9-10 years ago I blew up totally since I thought all videos were literal at first. It's still sometimes difficult to distinguish, which I understand is --- "clever marketing." But that can backfire.
I don't presume --- I take the evidence/statements they provide, and others.
PMing any producer who says he or she has committed a crime is like emailing (oh, any criminal, if I use a different example I'll be accused of accusing him of that too)
-- "didja do it???"
I see your point, but when someone posts a public claim to believable abuse I thought I should pose the question publicly.
If I was *sure there was abuse here I would've contacted some authority, police, whatever, to look into it --- I hesitate and ask first. For all my comments I understand (think/hope) that's never been necessary --- or isn't possible, or a model would seemingly have the ability to do it. If it seems she's intimidated & doesn't return, however -- then it would be justified.
And the model could do it here if that was the case, I was told she's familiar enough, not some random prostitute/victim. I thought she might've been grossly taken advantage of, but at least she'd know where to find the evidence if she wanted it.
And this wasn't nearly as extreme as TickleSlaves, from what I heard. That's another category.
No -- not even close. This sounded like a nasty breach of contract, but not something totally unexpected at least ---
There are very few companies who I found seemed to *definitely abuse - one was TickleSlaves --- and that creep vanished, apparently. And some of the foreign asian material. And another I won't specify again to give them more publicity. But those are other threads.
The same friend who referred me to this thread told me that he saw an article about abuse on tape resulting an arrest about the time the Tickle Slaves producer disappeared but he couldn't confirm it.
I'm glad you would report actual abuse if you were convinced --- Unfortunately there are too many here who literally ASK for REAL abuse, as in the Tickle Slaves thread --- I'm not exaggerating, as you should know.
and people have walked by all sorts of crimes thinking either --- eh, that can't be real (the victim's screaming & bleeding, but it can't be real...)
a woman just died this past year after dropping in a hospital waiting room --- her body was left there for hours with people coming & going....
Others allowed that at a shopping mall... http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=107930
so I don't think there's any problem with people ASKING questions ----
the problem here became the explosive, offensive reactions to a question based upon several perspectives. Yours at least is rather polite.
It is clever marketing up to a point -- I've said if there's no disclaimer they *are promoting abuse. I've also said that could be in microscopic print, if there were some affirmation made that would nullify the problem. Not the fantasy. Which I share, I've also said soooo often....
Like I said, I've seen guys ASK for true abuse, no qualms about it.
And then there's that dying/dead woman in a waiting room.... or the people who pass muggings, even rapes, though the one I'm thinking of was a long time ago, in a subway, people went right by ---- and many won't even reach for their cell phones.
They either don't care, are afraid, like the idea,
or they assume it's consensual ---- or make themselves assume that. It's just comfortable. The reactions I get additionally prove people do not want to be bothered.
Otherwise yes, I do know there are others like you, and that's much appreciated. But if you assume it's all fantasy when it's said to be reality --- There is nothing wrong with inquiring if it looks possible.
Yes, I posted twice -- the third was actually a joke, mostly. I was actually done until someone started flinging inappropriate statements rather than posting a rational reply as you have done.
Notice the time gap, no one did.
Others can also post 2-3 times and there's no problem. Yes I was hoping for a *reasonable reply rather than an offensive misinterpretation.
Actually I did collect facts --- This looked like a new twist on an old theme.
The irony is a friend actually pointed this thread out to me in an email because HE found it disturbing
--- Between the producer's description & varied reactions I thought there was enough of a possibility this guy took advantage of a model by stretching a clause too far. People screw their own families for profit.
But I appreciate your insights. I wasn't throwing anything off topic, the producer made a point of it, and has probably profited from it... but I can see that though I thought I was being reasonable, I could've been still more so - however at the time I was more convinced severe abuse had possibly occurred. Key word "possibly" as well as "severe".
Not at all -- I occasionally look in various subforums because I enjoy them, I'm as much a freak as anyone else here, pardon me for bolding but that breaks up my droning & this doesn't penetrate the (others) Troll-Speak in this forum so bolding is doubly necessary:
I've said SO many times I enjoy Non-Con in *fantasy, in more than one format---- If it looks real I feel obligated to say/ask -- to be sure no one's abused. Not a terrible thing. When I was new 9-10 years ago I blew up totally since I thought all videos were literal at first. It's still sometimes difficult to distinguish, which I understand is --- "clever marketing." But that can backfire.
I don't presume --- I take the evidence/statements they provide, and others.
PMing any producer who says he or she has committed a crime is like emailing (oh, any criminal, if I use a different example I'll be accused of accusing him of that too)
-- "didja do it???"
I see your point, but when someone posts a public claim to believable abuse I thought I should pose the question publicly. If I was *sure there was abuse here I would've contacted some authority, police, whatever, to look into it --- I hesitate and ask first. For all my comments I understand (think/hope) that's never been necessary --- or isn't possible, or a model would seemingly have the ability to do it. If it seems she's intimidated & doesn't return, however -- then it would be justified.
And the model could do it here if that was the case, I was told she's familiar enough, not some random prostitute/victim. I thought she might've been grossly taken advantage of, but at least she'd know where to find the evidence if she wanted it.
And this wasn't nearly as extreme as TickleSlaves, from what I heard. That's another category.
No -- not even close. This sounded like a nasty breach of contract, but not something totally unexpected at least ---
There are very few companies who I found seemed to *definitely abuse - one was TickleSlaves --- and that creep vanished, apparently. And some of the foreign asian material. And another I won't specify again to give them more publicity. But those are other threads.
The same friend who referred me to this thread told me that he saw an article about abuse on tape resulting an arrest about the time the Tickle Slaves producer disappeared but he couldn't confirm it.
I'm glad you would report actual abuse if you were convinced --- Unfortunately there are too many here who literally ASK for REAL abuse, as in the Tickle Slaves thread --- I'm not exaggerating, as you should know.
and people have walked by all sorts of crimes thinking either --- eh, that can't be real (the victim's screaming & bleeding, but it can't be real...)
a woman just died this past year after dropping in a hospital waiting room --- her body was left there for hours with people coming & going....
Others allowed that at a shopping mall... http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=107930
so I don't think there's any problem with people ASKING questions ----
the problem here became the explosive, offensive reactions to a question based upon several perspectives. Yours at least is rather polite.
It is clever marketing up to a point -- I've said if there's no disclaimer they *are promoting abuse. I've also said that could be in microscopic print, if there were some affirmation made that would nullify the problem. Not the fantasy. Which I share, I've also said soooo often....
Like I said, I've seen guys ASK for true abuse, no qualms about it.
And then there's that dying/dead woman in a waiting room.... or the people who pass muggings, even rapes, though the one I'm thinking of was a long time ago, in a subway, people went right by ---- and many won't even reach for their cell phones.
They either don't care, are afraid, like the idea,
or they assume it's consensual ---- or make themselves assume that. It's just comfortable. The reactions I get additionally prove people do not want to be bothered.
Otherwise yes, I do know there are others like you, and that's much appreciated. But if you assume it's all fantasy when it's said to be reality --- There is nothing wrong with inquiring if it looks possible.
Yes, I posted twice -- the third was actually a joke, mostly. I was actually done until someone started flinging inappropriate statements rather than posting a rational reply as you have done.
Notice the time gap, no one did.
Others can also post 2-3 times and there's no problem. Yes I was hoping for a *reasonable reply rather than an offensive misinterpretation.
Actually I did collect facts --- This looked like a new twist on an old theme.
The irony is a friend actually pointed this thread out to me in an email because HE found it disturbing
--- Between the producer's description & varied reactions I thought there was enough of a possibility this guy took advantage of a model by stretching a clause too far. People screw their own families for profit.But I appreciate your insights. I wasn't throwing anything off topic, the producer made a point of it, and has probably profited from it... but I can see that though I thought I was being reasonable, I could've been still more so - however at the time I was more convinced severe abuse had possibly occurred. Key word "possibly" as well as "severe".
