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Star Wars Episode III title revealed.

It has to be good. Lucas is forced to make up for the shortcomings of the last two, and more is expected of him, his staff, and his actors this time around. I'm pretty sure it will be better all around. He realizes this and I'm sure he's been shoulder deep in complaints.

If Lucas fouls this one up, then Star Wars will end on a low, sour note, and nobody wants that.
 
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You kids know the T-shirts that say "Revenge of the Sith" that were passed out at the convention are for sale on eBay now? I heard the title for the movie on the news tonite and heard about the shirts, so me and my friend looked on eBay and there were already like 100 for sale! Crazy people!
 
I can't WAIT to see this movie!! :veryhappy "Revenge of the Sith" is a good title, you just know this one's gonna be dark! 😀
 
Did you know...

... that the oroginal title of STARWARS Episode 6 was called "REVENGE OF THE JEDI" until somebody pointed out that the Jedis do seek revenge. That is when they changed the title to RETURN OF THE JEDI. If you come across an authentic REVENGE OF THE JEDI shirt - it is a collectors item.
 
This one has to be good. It'll be much darker, and so it hopefully won't have the stupid childish humour that, in my opinion, was one of the key factors that spoiled the other two movies. It's VERY dark in fact: I mean, come on, every Jedi gets wiped out!
 
Except two that we know of, and are recognized in the movies in some way.

I think its more accurate to say that the Jedi Council gets wiped out, not all jedi. If the jedi are dispersed throughout the galaxy, then its not possible for all of them to be taken out at one time.

I'm assuming there will be one large battle, akin to what happened at the end of II. But then again, I doubt that would happen twice. I guess we're to assume that Palpatine and Anakin wipe them all out on their own.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again-

As long as Palpatine gets some lightsaber action, then its all good! 😀

I'm tired of him looking like this old crone who can only walk the walk and talk to the talk. He's a Sith Master, he should be able to hack it with the best of them. And his saber skills should be the best we've seen thus far.


EDIT: Unless of course the Jedi were never dispersed and centered only in the core of Coruscant, and it's neighboring systems and sectors. It would make killing them off easier and faster.
 
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i am waiting so paitient for the third one to come out and then i will be getting the Whole set on DVD
 
May 19th 2005 is one anxiously awaited date. unlike a lot of others, i really liked ALL of the episodes. i want people to remember that Lucas cant do that much. this is a history lesson of Star Wars. we already KNOW what's going to happen. he cant make any surprises in the prequels. that's probably why nobody thinks it's as good as the first one. i bet if he were to make Episodes 7, 8 and 9, we would see much better "stories". because we wont know what's going to happen. in the prequels, we know Anakin is going to be Vader, he's going to fall to the Dark Side, the Empire starts, so on and so forth. it's like world history. notice all documentaries of Hitler are essentially the same. there's not much you can do with Hitler to make it new and exciting. same concept here.

i cant wait for Episode 3!!!!
 
Are there even books for a 7, 8, and 9?

This movie might even inspire some of us to start our own evil empire.
 
Well, the thing with the 'Emperor' was that he was a straight up master.

He apparently was so dope that he didn't need to use a lightsaber anymore.
 
tickledorange said:
Are there even books for a 7, 8, and 9?
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When STAR WARS: EPISODE FOUR proved to be so successful, George Lucas revelaed that he had plans for a total of nine movies. It was also leaked that only two characters were contracted for all nine movies - R2D2 and C3PO.
 
Are there even books for a 7, 8, and 9?
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There aren't. When Lucas made the first movie (now called chapter 4) it was a low budget film that Fox almost didn't want to release because they didn't think it would make any money. When Star Wars first came out, there was no episode 4 at the begining scrawl. That was put in on the re-release the summer before Empire came out. Lucas had originally stated that there were 9 chapters. Well, actually he wrote the whole synosis as one movie, but realized that it would cost too much to do one 3 generation movie. So he broke up each idea into 9 chapters if you will, then tried to figure out which would be the cheapest to make. He decided that the 4 chapter would be the easiest to make as it would be the cheapest. He then set about writing I believe 7 different drafts for episode 4. He secured the funding with Gary Kurtz. He was able to do this as a independant film due to the fact that his just released movie American Grafiti was raking it in at the box office. Now Lucas himself didnt think that the movie was going to do what it did, and he thought that it would break even, and he would do another studio film, then take the money from that and do the next chapter. During the contract stages, he wanted both sequel rights, as well as merchandising rights. The studio had no problem with this as merchandising didn't make studios money, and at the time sequels rarely made money either. After Episode 4 was a hit, he realized he could make episode 5 on his own. He originally intended 9 movies, but realized that they would take too long. He waited 10 years after the release of Return or the Jedi to even think of starting to script the next, or first, chapter. He waited for digital effects to catch up to a point where he could do what he envisioned in his head, and while doing post production on Jurasic Park 1 (Stephen was in Europe shooting Schindler's List and asked George to oversee post production on the film and send him video daily's) that he now could do this. So he decided if he should do the last 3 or the first 3. Well he knew that doing the last 3 would entail new characters that no one would care about, or doing the first 3 for a back story that was already there, and character's that were already established. So he chose the first 3. It was at this time that he also realized that he didn't want to spend 16 years making 6 movies, so during the Special Editions, he decided to put in scenes in Return of the Jedi to effectively close off the series. So, in short, from what I am hearing, there will be no 7-9. There will be a TV series involving Bobba Fett in the works that is to start production soon and to show up sometime in 2006 or 2007.

The closest you will get to a continueation is the Paul Zahn books that Lucas had officially said in 1996 was the official continuation of the characters after ROTJ, but it is a story soley conceived of by Zahn, with sorylines and aspects approved by Lucas only.

mgctouch is right, the stories are of one families journey's through the eyes of R2=D2 and C3PO. but originally conceived, it was supposed to be a 3 generation arc starting with Anakin and ending with Luke and Leia's kids. Lucas was leary how aduiences would take the whole family thing and didn't even know if he was going to have it as a generational story while shooting Empire. I read somewhere that only on the day of the shooting of the scene between Luke and Vader did he decide to go ahead and have Vader be Luke's father.

But Lucas said there are officialy only 6 movies now. And since he will hold the copyright for a long time, he will make sure that no one takes the rights away and makes a 6-9.
 
Something dosen't feel quite right about that title. i do know that at one point in time "Return of the Jedi" was going to be "Revenge of the Jedi" but they changed it because revenge kinda goes against what a jedi is. i'm going to be standing in line on opening day with everyone else...but i don't know that i'll like it much. Personally, i can't stand the fact that they turned Darth Vader into a date rapist.

"I hate the beach. The sand is so rough and corse and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Things are so...soft...and smooth." -- Darth Vader
 
Ok, let's clear something up here. According to Lucas himself, "Revenge of the Jedi" was never intended to be the actual title of Episode VI. It was a "working title", used to throw off the snoops from the rag-mags (there was no internet at the time), and to have something to put on the cans. Apparently, Fox began promoting the film (with the wrong title) before they were supposed to, and the false title got "leaked". Stories have spread over the years about "someone" pointing out to Lucas that Jedi don't seek revenge, etc, etc...but the boring truth is that it was a case of the cart before the horse in marketing.

An even rarer title use (and more valuable stuff to collectors) was the "Blue Harvest" false title used when pick-up shots for ROTJ were being filmed in the Mojave desert in '82. Lucas didn't want anyone to know that a Star Wars film was being shot to avoid the throngs of fans and reporters. They even went so far as to have jackets, hats, letterheads, mugs and everything printed with the Blue Harvest logo. To see a leftover of this charade, pop in the fourth disc of the Indiana Jones DVD collection (the special features disc), and you can see Steven Spielberg wearing a "Blue Harvest" cap in a behind-the-scenes moment from, I think, "Temple of Doom" (don't quote me on the actual section of the disc, but I'm pretty sure it was the ToD section...it IS in there.)

From the stuff I've seen from the "Hyperspace" members section of the Star Wars official site, Revenge of the Sith looks to be pretty cool. With new characters like Assaj Ventress and General Grievous, the Jedi will have thier hands full. Grievous is a droid/organic type of nightmare being in charge of the Separatist armies, and he's specifically a Jedi killer.

I don't think there's as much pressure on Lucas to make this perfect as people think. The first two of the prequel trilogy get some bad press because it's fashionable to do so. Attack of the Clones was a weaker story than I thought it would be, but it was still cool, and I never had any problem with The Phantom Menace. Whenever "event" films like Star Wars, Spiderman or Lord of the Rings are released, they are gone over with a microscope and subjected to endless scrutiny. We look back at the original trilogy as "classics" now, but during thier original releases, they were panned as well. I think history will look back on the prequels kindly.
 
Dave is right. The first set of Star Wars films were panned alot. WEll not so much A New Hope or Empire, but they did have their detractors. A New Hope had alot of the old time critics not liking it because it was too fresh for them. Alot of the bad critic of Empire was that some of the critics felt that he just copied the first film too much, and they brought up their reasonings, but I really didn't feel they were right, and still don't. An exapmle was the Falcon flying through the Asteroids in Empire was just an extended scene of the Falcon flying through Aldreans remains. They just don't compare. Or the Big slug that the Falcon flies out of, and the thing on Degobah that eats artoo then spits him out is the same as the monster that grabs luke in the trash compactor. They were really trying to draw paralles when they weren't really there. Jedi was panned the most. A lot of it was because it came after Empire and alot of the critics wanted another Empire, and they didn't like that it seemed to be made more for the kids than the adults, as Empire seemed to be. They also didn't like the ewoks for the very reason that Lucas created them-to have a stuffed animal toy to give his daughter. They also didn't like the wooden acting from all of the actors as opposed to their performances in Empire. The Theater Owners voted it the worst film of the year. Also, critics cited that there were jsut too many missed dramatic scenes that should have been there but weren't. An example was why is Han and Lando so buddy buddy when Lando just royally f'ed Han over in Empire. Had Leigh Brackett not died, she probably would have written Jedi as well and made it into one hell of the movie that it could have been. One critic of the time even called the Star Wars films the death of Hollywood.
 
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New lightsaber?

You know, it just occured to me. i wonder if we'll get to see some new type of lightsaber in this movie? It almost feels like all the posabilities have been exausted now. We have single, dual, and staff sabers...what else could there be? Maybe some kind of massive, zweihander lightsaber? Or a polearm of some sort. Hmmmm...lightsaber trident? Haha, interesting stuff to think about.
 
Celtic_Emperor - I think Palpatine does do some fighting actually.

May 19th 2005 is one anxiously awaited date. unlike a lot of others, i really liked ALL of the episodes. i want people to remember that Lucas cant do that much. this is a history lesson of Star Wars. we already KNOW what's going to happen. he cant make any surprises in the prequels. that's probably why nobody thinks it's as good as the first one. i bet if he were to make Episodes 7, 8 and 9, we would see much better "stories". because we wont know what's going to happen. in the prequels, we know Anakin is going to be Vader, he's going to fall to the Dark Side, the Empire starts, so on and so forth. it's like world history. notice all documentaries of Hitler are essentially the same. there's not much you can do with Hitler to make it new and exciting. same concept here.
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It's not the stories most people disagree with, though; it's the execution. Since making the original trilogy, Lucas has had kids, and has clearly aimed the prequels towards them, with the stupid one-liners and the poor dialogue (and Jar Jar 🙄 ).

Personally, I can't wait for the novel by Matthew Woodring to come out. I have the novels of the other five movies already, and they're fantastic. And surprisingly, The Phantom Menace by Terry Brooks (despite the fact that it was a bad film) is a fantastic book. He's a great author.
 
You know, since you brought up Jar-Jar...

I never had any problem with him, and I think it's another one of those things that have become fashionable to diss. Last year, I wrote a thread called "In Defense of Return of the Jedi" on it's 20th anniversary. I'm thinking of doing one for The Phantom Menace.

If you want to talk about stupid dialog and going for the "kid" demographic, far worse than Jar-Jar was the retarded diolog and situation of C-3PO in the Geonosis arena. We're supposed to believe that droids can just switch heads with a single spot-weld. And don't even get me started on the dumb-ass lines he had. Lucas even came within a word or two of "paying homage" to "I've fallen and I can't get up".

Give me Jar-Jar any day. 😎
 
"If you want to talk about stupid dialog and going for the "kid" demographic, far worse than Jar-Jar was the retarded diolog and situation of C-3PO in the Geonosis arena. We're supposed to believe that droids can just switch heads with a single spot-weld. And don't even get me started on the dumb-ass lines he had."

I only used Jar Jar as a means of symbolising that whole area of kid-friendly entertainment. I don't loathe him as much as some people do, but I see him as an irritating side-character whose 'heroics' involve him doing everything by accident (e.g. the battle scene with the droids at the end of TPM). But you're right: the 3PO stuff is stupid. His "It's a nightmaaaaarrrrree!" and "I want to go home!" comments are crap, as is "I'm quite beside myself!" which doesn't even really make sense in the context. It's stuff like that that spoiled it for me really; as well as the knowledge that basically everything is CGI - even the doors, for God's sake!
 
Oh, and kj_alrenn - I hear there will be a Jedi with a yellow lightsaber in this one.
 
The problem I find most in all these prequels is that they seem more futuristic than the first three Star Wars movies.The x-wing fighters are supposed to be newer looking yet they look like WWI bi-wing planes compared to the fighters in the prequels. I know technology has come along way since the first flick but at least stay with the technology timeline. Watch all the movies back to back when they come out, and you'll see what I mean. It'll look like your going back in time instead of forward.

I can't wait until it comes out tho. Hard to believe it's going to be 28 years from start to finish. 😱
 
Lemme put it this way.... Revenge of the Sith is a far better title than The Phantom Menace... Also, do you really think it's possible for this one to be as bad as Episode 1? The only way that could happen is if Quentin Tarantino was directing it. Anyway, the second movie was ok, if you could ignore how awful the dialogue was. Then again, dialogue has never been Lucas's forte. This third one will be cool, if nothing else, for the enjoyment of watching Anakin become Vader. I'm looking forward to watching Obi Wan kick his ass.
 
I think that's the reason the last two movies didn't work for me...since you know how it's going to end, there are no real surprises. Sure, seeing Yoda in battle was cool, and the Anakin/Kenobi fight will be great, but....yawwwwwwn. I'm gonna end up falling asleep just like I did with the other two movies.



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