Suicide: What are your thoughts?

[scissorman]

DISCLAIMER: I am not suicidal, and I don't agree with it. I just want your thoughts.


A friend told me something tonight, I thought it was interesting. He said, "If someone is hurting so bad that they want to end thier life, shouldn't we respect that decision? Isn't that something that really isn't any of our buisness? If you were planning on killing yourself, wouldn't you want everyone to stay out of it?" .. At first, I was appalled.

Now that I have given it more thought, it kind of makes sense. Your life is yours, your right is yours.


Is that a wrong point of view?

 

[tx_kingpin]

its not up to me to tell someone else its right or wrong. ive considered suicide many times, the only thing that stops me is knowing how much pain id be putting my mom in. thats an even worse feeling than any crap i might be going through. leaving my mom or my baby brother and sister is something i cant do and it makes my nonsense seem silly.

 

[german]

My thought on the matter is that there is always something in life that is worth living for.

Kust

 

[Mastertank1]

Depends

Physical pain or emotional pain?

If a person is in physical pain that they cannot stand, and that medical science holds out no hope of ever ending or even alleviating to any significant degree (yes, this does happen) I would respect that person's right to die as they choose. If they were a close friend or a loved one I might even help them if they were physically unable to do it themselves.

In a case of unbearable emotional pain, my advice is always this; something or someone is causing that pain; do you really want to give who or what ever that is that much power over you? The power to drive you to end your own life? Do you want to let them or it win?

Those are my thoughts on the matter.

 

[Bagelfather]

on suicide

DISCLAIMER: I am not suicidal, and I don't agree with it. I just want your thoughts.

Now that I have given it more thought, it kind of makes sense. Your life is yours, your right is yours.


Is that a wrong point of view?

Not everyone who jumps off the Golden Gate Bridge dies. Those that live have reported saying just after they let go and started falling that they had made a bad decision. People make bad decisions all the time and suicide is not one you can go "oops, bad choice I'll know better next time."

A lot of it deals with depression and chemical imbalance. At the height of my depression I had suicidal thoughts. Nothing that I was going through was worth my life. People who are suicidal need help.

There is a difference between suicide because of depression vs. suicide because you are terminally ill and suffering. Whether either is right or wrong is another matter, but for the sake of this topic they are different reasons to want to die.

Mental health is something we don't take seriously enough in this country and there are a lot of people who need medication just to get "kick started" in the right direction and then can get off of it, some never do. It is their life and their right in a way, but they are making judgments based on bad information and with several strikes against them. They need a chance to see what life can be like with the problems looked at.

I am very glad today that I never did anything like that, I have a lot of good friends who have stuck with me through good and bad.

 

[AffectionateDan]

This is what we refer to as a "Bad Thing".

Is that a wrong point of view?

Certainly will be to those people left behind who love the dead person, selfish as they were to cause that much pain to those who care about them, it wouldn't matter anyway as they'd no longer be around to feel the misery they'd caused by that selfishness. Suicide is a pretty cowardly way to dodge life's problems, IMHO. Not to mention, as Ed brings up, many suicides don't get the desired results, so they're not only still around with those problems, but they've compounded them by putting everyone who knows them through this, and they're more than likely all fucked up from whatever means they used to try to kill themselves. I've heard it mentioned that these people who fail to kill themselves really don't mean to do it, it's just a desparate cry for help. I know a chick who "tried to kill herself" by shooting herself in the stomach (WTF?), and now she's spending the rest of her life confined to a wheelchair for it. I'd spend some time, if I were you, getting to know what's going in your friend's head these days. Oh, and self-destruction is illegal in the United States, so again, if they botch it up and are still around after the attempt, there's probably gonna be police and a judge in their future as well, in addition to whatever problems drove them to desparation.

 

[chicago]

For me, I just hate people that complain and talk about killing themselves or make millions of "attempts" just for attention.

I think if someone was really suicidal, I mean dead set on taking their own life, they wouldn't be telling people.

If you're going to do it, do it, if not, shut up. Everyone's got problems, not just you.

 

[maniactickler]

Physical pain or emotional pain?

If a person is in physical pain that they cannot stand, and that medical science holds out no hope of ever ending or even alleviating to any significant degree (yes, this does happen) I would respect that person's right to die as they choose. If they were a close friend or a loved one I might even help them if they were physically unable to do it themselves.

In a case of unbearable emotional pain, my advice is always this; something or someone is causing that pain; do you really want to give who or what ever that is that much power over you? The power to drive you to end your own life? Do you want to let them or it win?

Those are my thoughts on the matter.

I agree.

 

[tkrexx]

If a person is in physical pain that they cannot stand, and that medical science holds out no hope of ever ending or even alleviating to any significant degree (yes, this does happen) I would respect that person's right to die as they choose. If they were a close friend or a loved one I might even help them if they were physically unable to do it themselves.

100% agreement here.

Other than that, life sucks, but it's the best game in town.

Rxx

 

[aun_existe_amor]

People assume that physical pain is worse than emotional pain but unless you've suffered both you will never understand. Yes it is hard for the people left behind after suicide, but just think how hard it must have been for the suicidal person to come to the decision to take their own life. Not everyone has someone they leave behind. Not everyone has someone to turn to for help. People who try to commit suicide numerous times do need help but they do not need to be looked down on. Mental illness is something that will affect most of us at some point in our life either through ourselves being ill or someone close to us. Just because mental illness cannot be seen it does not mean that it is less severe or less important than a physical illness. Someone contemplating suicide right now could have read these negative posts about being cowardly and attention seeking and feel much worse about themselves. Sometimes all it takes when you feel down and no one cares is for a complete stranger to smile and say hello. You could save someones life today!

 

[stloldg]

I believe it's a personal choice.

 

[drew70]

Suicide is painless
It brings on many changes.
And I can take or leave it if I please.

 

[AffectionateDan]

There you go, again!

Suicide is painless
It brings on many changes.
And I can take or leave it if I please.

...and you can do the same thing if you please.

You're almost as big a brat as I am, Drew. This is a serious thread, you goof. Cut that out!

 

[MrMacphisto]

Suicide is painless
It brings on many changes.
And I can take or leave it if I please.

Marilyn Manson did an excellent version of this song, by the way....

 

[MrMacphisto]

DISCLAIMER: I am not suicidal, and I don't agree with it. I just want your thoughts.


A friend told me something tonight, I thought it was interesting. He said, "If someone is hurting so bad that they want to end thier life, shouldn't we respect that decision? Isn't that something that really isn't any of our buisness? If you were planning on killing yourself, wouldn't you want everyone to stay out of it?" .. At first, I was appalled.

Now that I have given it more thought, it kind of makes sense. Your life is yours, your right is yours.


Is that a wrong point of view?

I am 100% pro-euthanasia and non-assisted suicide. I wouldn't do it myself, but I would help someone do it, if I had the right legal protection and if I felt the person understandably wanted to end his/her suffering.

 

[tulipangel]

At this moment im 99% against it but at the same time 1% of me is ready to throw myself in front of a semi or out of a window. Too bad my luck would be a truck hitting me and all that would happen is 2 broken legs and i live on the first floor so there goes that idea too lol! I think its a selfish thing to do. Taking your own life and all but f*ck it! why not be selfish once in this crappy life! Its the persons life! and if they want the crap to end it should be their right to end it! Everyone should just stay out of it and if you are gonna do it, I say do it right. Dont screw it up cause then you will feel worse if you cant even succeed in killing yourself! Ok im done with my anti life mood! Have a great Holiday ya'll!!!

 

[nowayjose]

IMHO every person's got the right to decide if he/she wants to continue living, or not.

 

[Strider]

If someone's in a great deal of physical or spiritual pain, I suppose I wouldn't judge them for it, although in the case of the latter it could be seen as somewhat cowardly.

 

[Redmage]

I tend to feel that if we don't have the right to end our own lives, then they aren't really "ours." On the other hand, my advice to anyone considering suicide is, "Procrastinate. Tomorrow is soon enough to kill yourself, if you still feel like it then."

 

[PainTrain]

My feelings are, and I hope I don't offend anyone...


You do not have the right to end your own life. You have been given life; it's your obligation to live it. Through thick and thin. You are not the one who decides when you move on.

 

[MrMacphisto]

Alrighty then... Well, since I'm not suicidal, this isn't an issue for me. However, I certainly wouldn't ask for your permission or anyone else's if I felt like doing it.

 

[luvgirlsfeet]

"Everyone"in the world has issues some more serious than other but suicide is the worst decision that anyone can make. I've actually considered it at times but each time the pictures on my desk of my family have changed my mind

 

[Mastertank1]

Something that Bagekfather wrote

in his post on this thread resonated with my personal experience and led to a question.

I'm referring to the part about chemical imbalances.

There have been three times when my advice to friends contemplating suicide that they find an external focus for their grief and pain and channel it into anger seemed to work. They became enraged at someone or something else and banished thoughts of suicide in favor of trying to seek retribution.

The question that occurs to me in regard to those occassions is;
Is it possible that the rush of chemicals the body produced in response to extreme anger overcame, at least temporarily, the original chemical cause of the suicidal depression? Can it be that this was the reason they forgot all about killingb themselves?

Incidentally, all three of them are still alive, and no they didn't murder anyone or beat anyone up. I checked before posting this.

 

[PainTrain]

Alrighty then... Well, since I'm not suicidal, this isn't an issue for me. However, I certainly wouldn't ask for your permission or anyone else's if I felt like doing it.

And you can rest assured, I wouldn't even talk with you about it. It is up to that person. Want to kill yourself? Go right ahead. I just shared my personal thoughts on the matter. I wouldn't expect them to change anyones perspective, nor would I want them to, quite frankly.

 

[chicago]

I don't believe in God, so I think if you want to kill yourself, go right ahead.

I just don't think that the half the reasons people give for wanting to commit suicide are really that bad that they need to end their lives.

It's just not something I would ever do, personally.