Technique Vs. Connection

[Miss Serendipity]

To quote the famous LeeAllure "There are many different ways to tickle someone" I never quite figure out exactly what those ways were anyone care to elaborate/explain??

Which brings me to technique versus connection. I know that connection is a very important key for me. so my question is how do you compare the two? Do you have to a 'ler who knows what their doing? or could you really care less? what about that connection? does it need to be there? or is it just about having that control??

Thoughts????

 

[C.K. Storyteller]

What a wonderful topic.

I think you need to have a bit of both, really, but I think technique can spring from connection. For example, I know today how to really tickle my girlfriend, but that's only from the years we've been together. I know her hot spots, I know the right moves for said spots, and I know how to judge her face and voice to know when she's gone past the "fun" stage and into the "I'm going to break your face" stage.

You have to have a certain chemistry with someone, otherwise its not going to be all that successful. I am consistently amazed by the video producers who seem to create this chemistry instantly, and I am easily turned off by the ones who don't.

If I had to pick one; technique or connection, I'm taking connection all the way. At the very least, that connection might lead my ticklee to humor me a bit. 🙂

 

[Rook's Media]

Amazing idea for a thread Miss Serendipity!

From both a personal, and production stand-point, rapport is a HUGE deal to me!

Overall, it's my ultimate goal...

While tickle sessions are intense...they are also an absolute blast!

The fun factor/connection is definitely something that I try to have consistently showing in my work...

Hope you get some awesome responses!



Ryan @ Rook's Media

 

[sasaxrah]

I think they go together like a horse and carriage - you can't have one without the other. That's what is challenging about lering. You can have the best connection with your lee, but if you just rub their shoulders, you won't get a reaction. Conversely, a technical ler without any personal connection won't do much on me.

 

[Miss Serendipity]

I think they go together like a horse and carriage - you can't have one without the other.

See I feel the same way. if there is no connection it just ain't happening. on the other side of things if the ler just digs in without any regard how I am reacting, well.. that doesn't do anything either.

PS: you sig pic chart thing is so full of win! love it! 😀

 

[KrazieDog]

Connection for me is key. It's why I tend to play only with friends at gatherings. I don't need to session for the sake of sessioning. It is just a more fun experience when that connection is there. Playful banter, light play, and goofing off is also fun and a way of strengthening that bond too so it's no hard and fast rule for me, just what I prefer.

Technique is always a good thing of course but can definately be dynamic and fluid. Some people are naturals and others might not be. People willing to learn and ginuinely wanting to make a concerted effort can become pretty good pretty quick. I know people from both sides of the fence. I've known some that don't try on purpose because the end game is your retaliation, others who only try what works on themselves but with a little coaching become pretty damn good, then of course those do the work and read the body of who they are ler'ing, changing what doesn't work, remembering what does and helping their lee attain that balance of fun/torture.

So both can be important, or, either can be the requirement for people.

 

[milagros317]

Maybe men are more superficial or maybe it's just me who's superficial. Obviously, the best case is a Ler with great technique with whom I have a connection.

But I can be tickled senseless by a woman I've just met who has great technique. The last time that happened was in Passive Arts in June and the woman was Mistress Astra.

 

[rhiannon]

There are really people who can tickle and others who can't. Those most of the time thing it tickles when they ram their fingers in between your ribs so hard you can hear them crack! Connection doesn't do anything then! On the other hand, I couldn't give myself over to someone who I don't have a connection with.

 

[Miss Serendipity]

Technique is always a good thing of course but can definately be dynamic and fluid. Some people are naturals and others might not be. People willing to learn and ginuinely wanting to make a concerted effort can become pretty good pretty quick. I know people from both sides of the fence. I've known some that don't try on purpose because the end game is your retaliation, others who only try what works on themselves but with a little coaching become pretty damn good, then of course those do the work and read the body of who they are ler'ing, changing what doesn't work, remembering what does and helping their lee attain that balance of fun/torture.

So both can be important, or, either can be the requirement for people.

This is Very true!

There are really people who can tickle and others who can't. Those most of the time thing it tickles when they ram their fingers in between your ribs so hard you can hear them crack! Connection doesn't do anything then! On the other hand, I couldn't give myself over to someone who I don't have a connection with.

Your not wrong! I'm just curious as to what is behind people's reasoning no matter what side they fall on. 🙂

 

[rhiannon]

Your not wrong! I'm just curious as to what is behind people's reasoning no matter what side they fall on.

Probably simply experience. 🙂 Some things have to be experienced and can"t be explained. 🙂

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

If there's not a connection there, forget it. Not to say that nothing would tickle, but it wouldn't nearly as intense/enjoyable. A ler who knows me and knows how to get inside my head is going to make a session absolutely incredible.

That's not to say that technique doesn't matter. I've been tickled by people I feel like I have a decent connection with, and their touch just isn't all that effective on me. The right kind of touch is important, but in my opinion not as important as the connection.

If you're lucky enough to find someone with both....

 

[Knot Amewzed]

I think they go together like a horse and carriage - you can't have one without the other. That's what is challenging about lering. You can have the best connection with your lee, but if you just rub their shoulders, you won't get a reaction. Conversely, a technical ler without any personal connection won't do much on me.

What she said 🙂

 

[Deleted member 66627]

Connection for me is key. It's why I tend to play only with friends at gatherings. I don't need to session for the sake of sessioning. It is just a more fun experience when that connection is there. Playful banter, light play, and goofing off is also fun and a way of strengthening that bond too so it's no hard and fast rule for me, just what I prefer.

Technique is always a good thing of course but can definately be dynamic and fluid. Some people are naturals and others might not be. People willing to learn and ginuinely wanting to make a concerted effort can become pretty good pretty quick. I know people from both sides of the fence. I've known some that don't try on purpose because the end game is your retaliation, others who only try what works on themselves but with a little coaching become pretty damn good, then of course those do the work and read the body of who they are ler'ing, changing what doesn't work, remembering what does and helping their lee attain that balance of fun/torture.

So both can be important, or, either can be the requirement for people.

/thread.

Great topic, Chey.

 

[Miss Serendipity]

/thread.

Great topic, Chey.

Aww thanks Jo! I do try but you babe are the Queen of great topics

 

[Gothika]

having a connection is key if there is something there it makes that much better

 

[Leo tickles]

Anybody can tickle a person that's ticklish and get laughter. The idea is, if there is a connection, the lee enjoys himself/herself more, and the ler thereby enjoys himself/herself more, and long term play can develop, versus...

A one night tickle stand, where the ler is tickling the lee because he/she is there, and the lee is laughing because she's tied and is too nice to tell him he sucks.

 

[Tissueboy]

People I dont have a connection with won't really get much reaction out of me as a lee. It's things like that sly look people give you when they know what they're doing tickles, and they're enjoying that fact, that make being tickled more enjoyable.

So yeah, some technique needs to be there, but for me I think connection is more important.

 

[Jason Reborn]

The connection between the ler and the lee makes for a better session, not the technique

 

[natural tickler]

Any fool can tickle someone and get a reaction, but to get the most of any lee, connection is a must...because when comfortable with someone, the true feelings and sensations can come out, regardless of technique. Now if you can get comfort and excellent technique, then that is the cherry on top.


I wish everyone would learn great technique, any fool can dig into a person, but if you are not receptive to feelings and what works for the lee, then you're tickling blind, and we have a lot of Stevie Wonders around here

 

[BrightEyes1082]

Great topic, Chey. 🙂

Unfortunately (in my opinion), I react to just about anyone who tickles
me. It's not a big deal to me if I don't have a connection with someone
else, unless they creep me out, then it shows on my face, even though
I can't hold in reactions for shit (no matter how skilled they are or aren't).
But with Lee, her skill is unmatched, and our connection is deep, and the
combination contributes to why I am a puddle after only minutes of tickling. 🙂

 

[natural tickler]

I am a puddle after only minutes of tickling. 🙂

yeah, but the squirrels are there for the clean-up..hehe

 

[Redmage]

I find I need both. My technique is damned good, if I do say so myself, but if I can't get an energy connection to my 'lee it doesn't do so much good. There have been times when, for one reason or another, I've found my connection to a favored 'lee waning, and I notice the difference almost immediately. It's just not the same experience when that happens.

 

[TklDuo-Ann]

Both are important for a fun experience. But, connection is definately more important for me...especially since that's a big part of what tickling is for me to begin with. If I have a good connection with someone, they don't even need to touch me to drive me nuts. If I have a bad or no connection, then they aren't going to get far...technique or no technique. I also think that, if you have a true connection, your technique will be adjusting as you go because you'll be sensing the reactions (or lack thereof).

 

[tickles]

I think for me this is the most important element for me to have. It is also what seems to get in the way of me finding a ler. I have attended a house party where there were plenty of experienced lers in attendence. I tried a gang tickle and felt NOTHING. It was a the weirdest thing! It told me a lot about that intimate connection. Anyway.........INTIMACY and chemistry is what it is ALL about for me, unfortunately.....but when I find it.....it feeds my soul...

 

[-Hari-]

Im a firm believer that connection overrules technique, I really do think that someone with an amazing connection with me that I felt absalutly comfortable with would be able to tickle me with as shit a techniue as possible, they could be totally usueless at it and it would still tickle shit loads.

But flip it round and someone I had no connection with whatsoever could do anything they please and ide never be able to relax and enjoy/suffer.

Connection ftw