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He's dead.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/26/obit.ted.kennedy/
 
I almost drove off a bridge when I heard the news over the radio.


DOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Poor Taste....or did it really happen.....you be the judge.

Fare the well Ted K. Fare the Well. Or not.

Rob
 
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This was the first thing on my mind when I heard the news...

Ted was no angel.
 
I just woke up and heard about Ted Kennedy's passing. It is a very sad day for our country. The Kennedy family, like them or not, have been one of the most powerful political dynasties of our time. I've been reading about them, literally, since I was five years old.

I know that he was very ill, and that this was expected, but I feel saddened. A chapter in our country's history has come to an end.

Mitch
 
I will miss his progressive influence in the Senate dearly. I hope other liberal Senators can step up to fill his role.
 
I just saw this on AOL, I will say I was pretty surprised! I didn't even know he was sick, lol.
 
sasaxrah said:
I will miss his progressive influence in the Senate dearly. I hope other liberal Senators can step up to fill his role.
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Yes because the current liberal government is doing such a cracker jack job at fixing this country we need more of them .:idunno:
 
sasaxrah said:
I will miss his progressive influence in the Senate dearly. I hope other liberal Senators can step up to fill his role.
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His "Role" was to try and influence every major piece of legislation passed over the last few decades....

Hopefully no one man ever sees that kind of power again.....
 
It's definitely sad to see him go, despite the fact that this was to be expected since his battle with cancer was pretty public for some time. I kind of thought he had a little while longer in him, but I guess not.

Unfortunately, some will be seeing his death as a victory. Kinda sick in my opinion.

venray said:
Old news hon....

http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=160076
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I guess you win that thread race. :goodjob:
 
Skipadeedoodah said:
🙁 It's always sad when someone dies, whether you liked them or not.
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I am not a political person. Everyone knows that because I want NOTHING to do with arguing politics. But this is what I want to say on this subject.

I wonder why it is a sad day for a man that got away with murder 40 years ago. He should not have been a Senator influencing our Country, he should have been sharing a cell with Big Bubba for at least 25 of those 40 years.

I wonder if Mary Jo Kopechne is sharing a bit of sadness because her KILLER has died. Here is the real story of Mary Jo that I have it listed below:




Mary Jo Kopechne, the daughter of an insurance salesman, was born in the village of Forty Fort, Pennsylvania, on 26th July 1940. After graduating from Caldwell College for Women in New Jersey, she moved to Washington where she worked as a secretary for George Smathers and Robert Kennedy. During this time she shared an apartment with Nancy Carole Tyler, who worked for Bobby Baker.

On 17th July, 1969, Kopechne joined several other women who had worked for the Kennedy family at the Edgartown Regatta. She stayed at the Katama Shores Motor Inn on the southern tip of Martha's Vineyard. The following day the women travelled across to Chappaquiddick Island. They were joined by Edward Kennedy and that night they held a party at Lawrence Cottage. At the party was Kennedy, Kopechne, Susan Tannenbaum, Maryellen Lyons, Ann Lyons, Rosemary Keough, Esther Newburgh, Joe Gargan, Paul Markham, Charles Tretter, Raymond La Rosa and John Crimmins.

Kopechne and Edward Kennedy left the party at 11.15pm. Kennedy had offered to take Kopechne back to her hotel. He later explained what happened: "I was unfamiliar with the road and turned onto Dyke Road instead of bearing left on Main Street. After proceeding for approximately a half mile on Dyke Road I descended a hill and came upon a narrow bridge. The car went off the side of the bridge.... The car turned over and sank into the water and landed with the roof resting on the bottom. I attempted to open the door and window of the car but have no recollection of how I got out of the car. I came to the surface and then repeatedly dove down to the car in an attempt to see if the passenger was still in the car. I was unsuccessful in the attempt."

Instead of reporting the accident Edward Kennedy returned to the party. According to a statement issued by Kennedy on 25th July, 1969: "instead of looking directly for a telephone number after lying exhausted in the grass for an undetermined time, walked back to the cottage where the party was being held and requested the help of two friends, my cousin Joseph Gargan and Paul Markham, and directed them to return immediately to the scene with me - this was some time after midnight - in order to undertake a new effort to dive."

When this effort to rescue Kopechne ended in failure, Kennedy decided to return to his hotel. As the ferry had shut down for the night Kennedy, swam back to Edgartown. It was not until the following morning that Kennedy reported the accident to the police. By this time the police had found Mary Jo Kopechne's body in Kennedy's car.

Edward Kennedy was found guilty of leaving the scene of the accident and received a suspended two-month jail term and one-year driving ban. That night he appeared on television to explain what had happened. He explained: "My conduct and conversations during the next several hours to the extent that I can remember them make no sense to me at all. Although my doctors informed me that I suffered a cerebral concussion as well as shock, I do not seek to escape responsibility for my actions by placing the blame either on the physical, emotional trauma brought on by the accident or on anyone else. I regard as indefensible the fact that I did not report the accident to the police immediately."

At the inquest Judge James Boyle raised doubts about Kennedy's testimony. He pointed out that as Kennedy had a good knowledge of Chappaquiddick Island he could not understand how he managed to drive down Dyke Road by mistake. For example, on the day of the accident, Kennedy had twice had driven on Dyke Road to go to the beach for a swim. To get to Dyke Road involved a 90-degree turn off a metalled road onto the rough, bumpy dirt-track.




Keep this in mind, had it been any of us we are serving 25 to life for her death back in 1969. That is the legacy Senator Kennedy leaves behind. A self-servering murderer.
 
ticklingfeet4fu said:
I am not a political person. Everyone knows that because I want NOTHING to do with arguing politics. But this is what I want to say on this subject.

I wonder why it is a sad day for a man that got away with murder 40 years ago. He should not have been a Senator influencing our Country, he should have been sharing a cell with Big Bubba for at least 25 of those 40 years.

I wonder if Mary Jo Kopechne is sharing a bit of sadness because her KILLER has died. Here is the real story of Mary Jo that I have it listed below:




Mary Jo Kopechne, the daughter of an insurance salesman, was born in the village of Forty Fort, Pennsylvania, on 26th July 1940. After graduating from Caldwell College for Women in New Jersey, she moved to Washington where she worked as a secretary for George Smathers and Robert Kennedy. During this time she shared an apartment with Nancy Carole Tyler, who worked for Bobby Baker.

On 17th July, 1969, Kopechne joined several other women who had worked for the Kennedy family at the Edgartown Regatta. She stayed at the Katama Shores Motor Inn on the southern tip of Martha's Vineyard. The following day the women travelled across to Chappaquiddick Island. They were joined by Edward Kennedy and that night they held a party at Lawrence Cottage. At the party was Kennedy, Kopechne, Susan Tannenbaum, Maryellen Lyons, Ann Lyons, Rosemary Keough, Esther Newburgh, Joe Gargan, Paul Markham, Charles Tretter, Raymond La Rosa and John Crimmins.

Kopechne and Edward Kennedy left the party at 11.15pm. Kennedy had offered to take Kopechne back to her hotel. He later explained what happened: "I was unfamiliar with the road and turned onto Dyke Road instead of bearing left on Main Street. After proceeding for approximately a half mile on Dyke Road I descended a hill and came upon a narrow bridge. The car went off the side of the bridge.... The car turned over and sank into the water and landed with the roof resting on the bottom. I attempted to open the door and window of the car but have no recollection of how I got out of the car. I came to the surface and then repeatedly dove down to the car in an attempt to see if the passenger was still in the car. I was unsuccessful in the attempt."

Instead of reporting the accident Edward Kennedy returned to the party. According to a statement issued by Kennedy on 25th July, 1969: "instead of looking directly for a telephone number after lying exhausted in the grass for an undetermined time, walked back to the cottage where the party was being held and requested the help of two friends, my cousin Joseph Gargan and Paul Markham, and directed them to return immediately to the scene with me - this was some time after midnight - in order to undertake a new effort to dive."

When this effort to rescue Kopechne ended in failure, Kennedy decided to return to his hotel. As the ferry had shut down for the night Kennedy, swam back to Edgartown. It was not until the following morning that Kennedy reported the accident to the police. By this time the police had found Mary Jo Kopechne's body in Kennedy's car.

Edward Kennedy was found guilty of leaving the scene of the accident and received a suspended two-month jail term and one-year driving ban. That night he appeared on television to explain what had happened. He explained: "My conduct and conversations during the next several hours to the extent that I can remember them make no sense to me at all. Although my doctors informed me that I suffered a cerebral concussion as well as shock, I do not seek to escape responsibility for my actions by placing the blame either on the physical, emotional trauma brought on by the accident or on anyone else. I regard as indefensible the fact that I did not report the accident to the police immediately."

At the inquest Judge James Boyle raised doubts about Kennedy's testimony. He pointed out that as Kennedy had a good knowledge of Chappaquiddick Island he could not understand how he managed to drive down Dyke Road by mistake. For example, on the day of the accident, Kennedy had twice had driven on Dyke Road to go to the beach for a swim. To get to Dyke Road involved a 90-degree turn off a metalled road onto the rough, bumpy dirt-track.




Keep this in mind, had it been any of us we are serving 25 to life for her death back in 1969. That is the legacy Senator Kennedy leaves behind. A self-servering murderer.
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If anyone reads past three sentences of this diatribe, it would be amazing. The subject of this thread is Ted Kennedy's death, not the car accident 40 years ago. There are three other threads on his death that this post might fare better in.

kthanx.
 
tis to be expected...similar to the Michael J and other threads that people disrupt...why should this be any different?
 
SamuelKhan said:
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This was the first thing on my mind when I heard the news...

Ted was no angel.
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I see I wasn't the only one whose first thought was of Chappaquiddick.

Mary Jo Kopechne might be a 69-year-old grandmother today if he hadn't killed her with his drunk driving.
 
AnnieHall said:
Guess expectations were too high for this place. My bad.
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When I see a NEST thread, I don't post Michigan Gathering material in there because it is not right.

But Ted Kennedy thread, Mary Jo Kopechne is a MAJOR part of Kennedy's life and death. So, when you post about Ted Kennedy you can expect people like myself when they see a title Ted Kennedy to remind people that he MURDERED another human being and got away with murder.


But, Ted Kennedy, your title left it open to ANY kind of conversation that involved his life and his death.
 
AnnieHall said:
Guess expectations were too high for this place. My bad.
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I wouldn’t get too depressed about it, I’ve only noticed this type of behavior with the passing of individuals being glorified as champions, when if fact the terms “criminally negligent” and “should-be-convict” would be more applicable. The only unsettling part is the fact that this repugnant hero worship seems to be rather routine these days.
 
AnnieHall said:
Guess expectations were too high for this place. My bad.
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You reap what you sow....what goes around comes around....and all those other cliches that fit....

Need to live up to your own expectations before holding others to them...

Dont go round hijacking everyone else and expect them to sit quietly by and pay homage to a man who should have been in prison and not serving in the Senate...
 
venray said:
His "Role" was to try and influence every major piece of legislation passed over the last few decades....

Hopefully no one man ever sees that kind of power again.....
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What's wrong with senators trying to pass or not pass legislation? Isn't that their job? And when someone agrees with me more than almost any other elected politician, I want them to be active.
 
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