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LeeAllure

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When you watch a video, what do you like to see?

I don't watch too many, I only love TO tickle, and I hope that
the videos I make are liked by the viewers (obviously), but I
need to know more of what you want out of an F/m or F/f
video, so that when I film, I can make the best videos possible.

Aside from a female tickler who loves what she does, and
very ticklish or reactive ticklees, what do you want to see?

Thanks in advance!

Lee
 
I like to see genuine body reactions, hear genuine laughter, see genuine face expression, and not female foot shots.

Over all; I hate and see, fakeness
 
I can definitely promise

that I'll never shoot/show a video of someone who isn't ticklish!

There are few things more boring for me than tickling someone
who isn't really ticklish, and not getting the best reaction I
possibly can.

Hopefully you'll keep giving me feedback from the clips I post,
and that the people I tickle will be as satisfying for this
reaction junkie as it is for the viewers 🙂

Thanks!
Lee
 
I very rarely watch videos. Like you, I'd rather be doing it than just sitting there watching pics of someone else doing it. However, since it's you, I'll respond anyway.

I like when...

1. there's a fair amount of banter going back and forth between the ler and lee...esp. teasing from the ler.

2. the tickling ranges all over rather than sticking to one area.

3. the lee isn't screaming throughout the entire thing.

4. the entire scenario is more realistic and less setup...unless it's a costume/theme deal.

5. both the ler and lee are obviously enjoying it.

Hope this helps a bit, Lee.
 
i think you already have a massive head start as your a well known member of the community and obviously arn't in it just for the money,

you have a genuine love for this fetish so i couldn't imagine you'd produce anything less than a direct projection of that, i can see you quickly walking amoung producers like Viper and Jeff who are two of my favorates purely cause i know none of it can possibly be fake,

at the end of the day most people just want to see genuine material, i don't really like f/m but that clip of you and phymon was one of the best i've seen since Viper's troy videos, amazing reaction and pure sense of realism. If you make videos of you doing what you love i'm sure they'l all be great. Don't know about everyone else but i don't think you need any direction, you know your way around a ticklish body.. Thats what i wanna see
 
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I'll second what's already been said. When I see a clip where the lee is practically carrying on a normal conversation with the ler, I'm not interested in it anymore since they are obviously either barely ticklish or just faking whatever reactions they are getting. I have no doubt this will never be a problem for you, Lee 🙂. Beyond that I like to see variety overall, meaning variety in types of clips produced not within one single clip.

1. I like to see different types of bondage positions or devices used. No restraints are fine as well, particularly when there is a good rapport or depending on the situation maybe attraction or chemistry between the ler and lee.

2. I like to see some sort of progression, where even though the lee is clearly ticklish from the outset, they are getting worn down and more exhausted as the clip goes on.

3. Definitely agree with TklDuo-Ann; I hate screaming.

4. My preference personally is foot tickling so generally I'll buy clips that at least focus on that for a significant portion, but I also like to see some all over tickling mixed in.

5. As for foot tickling, I'm a purist and tend to prefer fingers over using a lot of tools if they don't get as strong reactions. I've seen some clips lately where the ler uses maybe 5 more tools, each not nearly good as the reactions he/she was getting with his fingers, but keeps trying something else. This frustrates me.

You'll do great Lee. As a passionate ler and a longtime member of this community, I'm sure you'll find you have an innate sense for what makes a good clip and how to get good reactions out of your lee. All the best with your new store.
 
The criticisms I'm about to give don't apply to any producer in particular, and are only offered for constructive purposes.

The area in which I see that videos fail far too often (though not always) is the camera work. Rapid shaky panning back and forth. Too many extended close-ups of either the laughing face or the soles of the feet. Other videos I've seen are shot in their entirety with a fixed tripod, which alleviates the shaky panning problem but introduces a new problem, that of monotony.

But my biggest problem with videos is that the Ler is often left out of the picture for long durations. I like seeing her in action, and watching the look of determination. It's cool to occasionally zoom in on the lee's face or the area being tickled, as any video needs changing scenes to avoid monotony, I'm just saying don't assume people aren't interested in seeing the Ler.

I also like to see female lers that dress kind of sexy. Not nude, just wearing clothes that accent their femininity. Short skirts, tight pants, that kind of thing. Curves on a Ler are awesome. I've seen too many videos in which the female ler is wearing some baggy sweatshirt or flannel.

That's all I have for the moment. 🙂
 
Lee,
The ONLY thing I can think of is this . . .
When it comes to restrants, PLEASE make sure that the 'lee is NOT loosely bound. The one thing that irritates me to no end is a 'boundless' bound 'lee.
The less they move the better it is for me.
When I was bound & tickled (over 10 years ago) I HAD to be VERY securely tied down. I've discovered that I tend to jump, squirm, bounce, kick, & just about fly off the bed when I am tickled, so I know from personal experience how important it is to be bound properly & TIGHTLY.
My personal preference IS bondage (Obviously).
 
I really appreciate

that you all took the time to think about it, and give me some
clear desires of yours!

I, too, hate sloppy bondage, yet I found some of what I did with Psymon
too loose for my own tastes, and will definitely address that in further
shoots. (On the other hand, he was impressed with my cuffs and how
well they held him to the chair) I think once I gain better control over the
shooting area, that sort of thing will be minimised.

I get the feeling that when doing a clip, some of you would prefer
to see the female tickler as more visible, as opposed to keeping
the ticklee exclusively to the forefront. I'll keep that in mind with my
workout regime and clothing.

Still welcoming further comments! There's a sample clip here:
http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=125840
so if you want to comment on that, feel free.

Thanks again,
Lee
 
if I may reiterate another poster, I also like a lot of verbal interchange between ler and lee. That is why I am also partial to storylines. Revenge scenarios or interrogation or some such are fun. The ler should tease and the lee should beg when it is a revenge or interrogation scenario. Playful can be fun also, but then it should be a lighter form of teasing and begging, more obviously consensual play.

I know you'll do very well with it.
 
Toothbrushes and other stupid crap

I strongly agree with baldadonis about brushes and feathers and everything else besides fingers. I have a fetish for girls hands. There are a couple of companys that make excellent clips except they always have to get out the damn toothbrushes and crap. It just drives me nuts. To me the ler is just as much a turn on as the laughter of the lee. I can enjoy a video even with a lousy lee if the girl doing the tickling is good enough.
 
as for me I love F/F tickling. With me being a lover of girls feet is always an enjoyment watching them being tickled as well as her belly button to me thats hot :firedevil
 
5. As for foot tickling, I'm a purist and tend to prefer fingers over using a lot of tools if they don't get as strong reactions. I've seen some clips lately where the ler uses maybe 5 more tools, each not nearly good as the reactions he/she was getting with his fingers, but keeps trying something else. This frustrates me.

Oh how I completley agree. I am so tired of seeing a hairbrush raked across someones foot at what seems like hypersonic speed...lol. I am a huge fan of good ole fingers and fingernails...and some tongue once in a while licking between toes.

Also, while foot tickling I like split screen...a close up of the tickling action and a close up of the face...not the whole time but for some of the time. As drew70 does, I like to see the ler more involved instead of being hid off camera to only show mysterious hands! Sometimes the excitemnet in the lers face and body talk contributes to a great session which means a very hot video...in my opinion 🙂 I like also when the ler "taunts" the lee. It seems to add some spice into the mix. When they don't say anything, that is when it comes across as someone just doing there job so they can get payed or they really are not into it.

That's about it for now

peace out,
daddy
 
It's rare, I think, when a producer of tickling videos sincerely asks what people would like to see. Some of the best have put this question out. Some of the worst producers have never cared. And I know you are very for-real within our common interest.

So, keeping this in mind, I think you would turn out equally wonderful videos depicting both F/F and F/M.

As far as content, so many videos out there - although well done - seem kind of the same. I know from my time both in the tickling world and time I spent running with the former Lone Star PEP that doms play with subs that they enjoy playing with but they do play intensely. Heavy play isn't a disdainful judgment of one player against another; it's the way of two people trusting one another to let their larger, societal-approved masks fall away in a dramatic, kinetic fashion.

A lot of video out there is lacking a, I don't know, 'stern-ness', a combination of both true dominance and joyful sadism within the dom in the more intense tickling they depict. I love the videos that I currently own, but I'd like to see more attitude in the tickler. The passion, even anger, of a dom ticklishly tormenting a bound sub. A dom testing a sub's threshold of tickling, then taking advantage of the sub's weaknesses. Taking the 'lee from where he or she is willing to go and guiding them into newer territory, signed permission slip not necessarily required. The tickling is occurring for the dom's pleasure; whether the ticklee takes enjoyment for his/her own suffering is simply a byproduct.

I don't think every video should be like this; this would not be for every one's taste, but I would like to see this flavor offered, too. I've seen flashes of it it before here and there. I know Jeff/MTP has a love for the intense. The early TIB/Priscilla James videos featured this level of tickling on occasion. Gia of Paradise Vision was outright mean sometimes. I have a few BellaRisa videos and I can see a point that Bella, out of kindness to her sub, pulls back a bit. A credit to her morailty and sense of caution but I know she doesnt really want to back it off. Honest to goodness sadomasochism between willing, or curious, participants. I like that kind of edge play from time to time as a top, bottom or viewer. To me, however, it is a rare find. No cruelty or trickery need be used to find a "victim" (not that LeeAlure ever would but in case other producers are reading this to get some ideas). Just someone willing (nervously, perhaps) to be taken to another, newer, level and a top who will guarantee that occurs for herself and her viewers.

On the flip side of things, there's something that seems to be even rarer in tickling videos - honest affection. Some intense tickling with hugs, kisses or positive 'sweet talk' given to the sub during rest breaks (or even with the tickling itself). Some slight eroticism, not groping at the genitals or "tickling and cumming". Or a video that is just soft caresses and touches, still tickly, but of a more lighthearted nature with a lot of upbeat talk, embracing, and positive emotional connecting as well. The tickling of friends or lovers "caught on tape".

I know Yaqi has done a couple of videos where the tickling ends with deep, passionate kisses. TJ Productions did at least one video that was just soft, gentle tickling caresses between and older and younger woman. I own a video where a woman was tickled into real tears, sobbing even - apparently she didn't understand what she was getting into. Immediately at that point they stopped the video and the tickler unbound her and hugged her. There is a sweetness in these depictions which counteract the 'assault' of the tickling.

Tickling often is an intimate, unusual even, type of power play between people who like or trust one another. Depicting that connected affection would be something nice.
 
I like knee tickling. There is not much of that in videos. I like it when people are tickled on the backs of their legs.
 
I strongly agree with baldadonis about brushes and feathers and everything else besides fingers. I have a fetish for girls hands. There are a couple of companys that make excellent clips except they always have to get out the damn toothbrushes and crap. It just drives me nuts. To me the ler is just as much a turn on as the laughter of the lee. I can enjoy a video even with a lousy lee if the girl doing the tickling is good enough.

I think goblue hit the nail on the head (fingernail, that is)

My absolute favorite...

no...

the only thing I'll watch is a F-ler that uses a generous (if not total) ammount of light fingernail spider-dancing, especialy on the armpits and feet.

It's best if the 'lees' arms are tied high above her head, making her armpits totaly vulnerable AND toes pulled back stretching her soles tight. When the skin is smooth like that you don't need nylons (although the combonation of stretched soles AND nylons make for a wicked playground for some skilled fingernails to scribble on)
 
It's rare, I think, when a producer of tickling videos sincerely asks what people would like to see. Some of the best have put this question out. Some of the worst producers have never cared. And I know you are very for-real within our common interest....
Tickling often is an intimate, unusual even, type of power play between people who like or trust one another. Depicting that connected affection would be something nice.

I didn't mean to cut your entire post, because you made so many excellent
points, but I agree with most of them, and I really, really do care about
putting out something which people can identify with, and like to see. The
shoot with Psymon was HILARIOUS for all there, and I wish there was a
good way to capture and share that experience. If I can, I will.

I'm not sure I want to share really intimate moments with the world (and
I'm not sexually into women) so there probably won't be any kissing in the
videos I do.

For what it's worth (and I thought it was kind of important) after reading your
post, BE wrote to me "He should see our play" because it's intense and
caring, Plus, she really, really, really hates that vibrating hair brush you
gave me last year 🙂

I`d pay to see YOU tickled, my dear.:woot: Just think of the thousands of dollars you could make. $$$$$$$:cool2:

You wouldn't like it. I'd just lie there. (I'm not that ticklish)

I like knee tickling. There is not much of that in videos. I like it when people are tickled on the backs of their legs.

I like that too, and when I find someone who's really ticklish there, I'll make
sure to explore fully!

I think goblue hit the nail on the head (fingernail, that is)

My absolute favorite...

no...

the only thing I'll watch is a F-ler that uses a generous (if not total) ammount of light fingernail spider-dancing, especialy on the armpits and feet.

It's best if the 'lees' arms are tied high above her head, making her armpits totaly vulnerable AND toes pulled back stretching her soles tight. When the skin is smooth like that you don't need nylons (although the combonation of stretched soles AND nylons make for a wicked playground for some skilled fingernails to scribble on)


I'm not sure I like the idea of nylons, but if it is effective for a particular
'lee, I'll definitely exploit it!

I love hearing these, folks!
Lee
 
I'm being picked on and it ain't even my thread >;-P

I have a few BellaRisa videos and I can see a point that Bella, out of kindness to her sub, pulls back a bit.

When was that?? The only time I ever pull back is if I can tell she's about to start that choking/coughing thing 'lees occasionally do from all the laughing and gasping, that I like to avoid. OR, if I know from her movements that a spot has become tender/sore instead of ticklish, and I don't want to have to 'cut' because she's about to say so on camera. Kindness has never had a damned thing to do with it :whip:

Lee, as so many others have said: you know what you're doing and I know firsthand that you'll be amazing :Kiss2:. The only thing I can possibly add to what's already been said is that I know your work will be genuinely entertaining, with excellent banter and funny moments left in because you know your audience loves the realism :redheart:

And that corset I saw you in NEEDS to be in a video :bowing:
 
if I may reiterate another poster, I also like a lot of verbal interchange between ler and lee. That is why I am also partial to storylines. Revenge scenarios or interrogation or some such are fun. The ler should tease and the lee should beg when it is a revenge or interrogation scenario. Playful can be fun also, but then it should be a lighter form of teasing and begging, more obviously consensual play.

I know you'll do very well with it.

I'm not an actor by any stretch of the imagination, so I don't know
that there will ever be any storylines! I think I"m liking hearing the
'lee beg more and more, so there might be some of that coming.
I'm kind of sadistic, so there may be minimal "lighter" tickling, but
remember, they've all signed a model release 🙂

I strongly agree with baldadonis about brushes and feathers and everything else besides fingers. I have a fetish for girls hands. There are a couple of companys that make excellent clips except they always have to get out the damn toothbrushes and crap. It just drives me nuts. To me the ler is just as much a turn on as the laughter of the lee. I can enjoy a video even with a lousy lee if the girl doing the tickling is good enough.

I'm generally a huge fan of just fingers, but occasionally I'll use something
other. It's definitely not my mail focus. I suppose this means I'm going to
have to start treating my hands more kindly!

as for me I love F/F tickling. With me being a lover of girls feet is always an enjoyment watching them being tickled as well as her belly button to me thats hot :firedevil
I could almost care less about feet. I'm definitely more an upper body person,
BUT, I like to test out where people are ticklish, so I tend to check all over
the body. I'm definitely not going to hire/film someone who's only ticklish
on their feet. I'd be bored, and the shoot would suck!

Oh how I completley agree. I am so tired of seeing a hairbrush raked across someones foot at what seems like hypersonic speed...lol. I am a huge fan of good ole fingers and fingernails...and some tongue once in a while licking between toes.

Also, while foot tickling I like split screen...a close up of the tickling action and a close up of the face...not the whole time but for some of the time. As drew70 does, I like to see the ler more involved instead of being hid off camera to only show mysterious hands! Sometimes the excitemnet in the lers face and body talk contributes to a great session which means a very hot video...in my opinion 🙂 I like also when the ler "taunts" the lee. It seems to add some spice into the mix. When they don't say anything, that is when it comes across as someone just doing there job so they can get payed or they really are not into it.

That's about it for now

peace out,
daddy

For the moment, because I'm just starting out, there will be one camera,
so no split screens, but I think that Jeff did an excellent job as my
camera man in getting both me, my tickling, and Psymon's face in some
of the clips I just put out. I'll keep that in mind, tho! This is it, the next
person I tickle is in for some major taunting - it's clear that that's what
a lot of viewers want 😉

When was that?? The only time I ever pull back is if I can tell she's about to start that choking/coughing thing 'lees occasionally do from all the laughing and gasping, that I like to avoid. OR, if I know from her movements that a spot has become tender/sore instead of ticklish, and I don't want to have to 'cut' because she's about to say so on camera. Kindness has never had a damned thing to do with it :whip:

Lee, as so many others have said: you know what you're doing and I know firsthand that you'll be amazing :Kiss2:. The only thing I can possibly add to what's already been said is that I know your work will be genuinely entertaining, with excellent banter and funny moments left in because you know your audience loves the realism :redheart:

And that corset I saw you in NEEDS to be in a video :bowing:

Thanks Honey 🙂 *hug* I know that Psymon had a little cough/choke
moment, and I stopped, asked if he was ok, then went on (I left it in)
and he started laughing immediately 🙂

I'm also planning on corsets. I've got three right now I could wear, and
we'll see what I put on as time goes on. (Yeah, I really, really like them)

Also, it's hard to see my reactions because my hair gets in my face a lot
when I'm tickling. I'll try to pin that back somehow so that my reactions,
and I do laugh a lot when I'm tickling someone - I go from serious to
hilarious in a blink - are more visible to the viewers 😉

Thank you SO much, everyone. Truly appreciate it!

Lee
 
I love f/f when the 'lee's laughter is contagious and the 'ler is having so much fun that she's laughing almost as much as the 'ler. I also love when the 'ler teases and gently taunts her 'lee.
It's very good of you to request feedback like this...good luck with your videos!!
 
No, Bella, no - no picking on!! I promise. You are one of the BEST out there in terms of both RL lifestyle play and capturing your play on video.

I own 2 videos of yours and have seen a few more. You are very real and very intense. I love that. Heck, I've been under your fingers briefly and I will remember that a lifetime.

What I was referring to is that -- I think it was the Nikki video, although memory is failing here --- at one point you do say something to the effect of "Well, all right, I guess I'll give you a rest"; you know, something like that. It was at a point that the poor dear was quite worn out and yes, may have in fact been going through the coughing phase. I think she was, in fact. But I could tell in your voice, the way you were tickling her before, you would have loved to have kept going. The fact that you pushed it that far .... that's really the reason I brought up your videos. You are one of the few that takes it to the 'next level'. I'd like to see more of that, and if possible with even less mercy.

You know, if allowing your sub to not suffocate is "mercy". Damn the weakness of the physical material of which we are made. I could watch you go on and on and on....

If you feel slighted I do apologize. Frankly, you one of my heroes.


When was that?? The only time I ever pull back is if I can tell she's about to start that choking/coughing thing 'lees occasionally do from all the laughing and gasping, that I like to avoid. OR, if I know from her movements that a spot has become tender/sore instead of ticklish, and I don't want to have to 'cut' because she's about to say so on camera. Kindness has never had a damned thing to do with it :whip:
 
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I'm not sure I want to share really intimate moments with the world (and
I'm not sexually into women) so there probably won't be any kissing in the
videos I do.

For what it's worth (and I thought it was kind of important) after reading your
post, BE wrote to me "He should see our play" because it's intense and
caring, Plus, she really, really, really hates that vibrating hair brush you
gave me last year 🙂


I rarely ever quote the entire posts myself!

I'm glad you and Psymon had a great time. I will go and download the preview clip after this post and see what I am missing. I did some shooting in October for a video and we had a good time as well. I'm afraid my camera work wasn't too memorable, but I was more "into the moment" I suppose than worred about technical excellence.

No need to share any of the intimacy if that is not what you are comfortable or interested in showing. Even though I love coming here and swapping ideas it's also fine that some things stay private with those who are sharing their play together, in their solitude. And the fact that you aren't willing to fake with a woman that which you don't feel will drive further the "Shes for real stake" into the hearts of the doubting vampires that might still linger there. If it isn't right for you don't put it in a video for us.

Sexuality in general isn't what I'm looking for, and kissing specifically was more an example than anything, I was thinking more along the lines of a "gentle tickling" video. A video in which the 'lee is retrained, taking the tickling still a challenge, but it is all just more lighter in content, physcially and emotionally. If a nibble to the ear is appropriate so be it. A gentle stroking of the stomach between tickling, that would be nice. Or just an overall slow, light "dusting" of fingertips ovr the skin, nothing more than that. That was more my thinking - a tickling video showing more of the psychology of sensuality rather than the side of domination.

And I am SO pleased that the gift is being put to such wonderful, terrible use. :firedevil BE almost has my sympathies.
 
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