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Temple Guard (The Predator)

Celtic_Emperor

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Due partially to the ammount of hits my last Predator sketch got net-wide and people asking for more, and because I've been meaning to draw another, I drew another sketch. ^^

Here we have a Huntress Temple Guard who hears a rustle in the bushes and is prepared to deal with it, if necessary, armed with her claw blades and halberd. I had to improvise on some things, since I had no reference material, but I think it works anyway. You may notice the blades on her wrist weopon seem wavy on part of them. Thats actually because I accidentally spilled a little tea on the paper. ^^;

Yes, she's topless. 😛 I decided I didn't want to be politically correct. I find it really hard to believe an alien race made of tough hunters cares so much about covering up their female's chests or the females themselves care to. While I'm sure they have clothing in their society, on hunts and on duty I doubt there is much need for them as clothing would only slow them down I would think.

Anyways, enjoy. ^___^

Artwork © Damien Jones
The Predator © it's respective owners and title holders

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Celtic_Emperor said:
That would seem bizarre..:/

Less bizarre than the other stuff on this forum? (Especially my artwork!)😀
 
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@ Falcon-

Thank you again. I appriciate it. 🙂

@ Morden-

Hmm, well now you're putting it in a different context than I was. I was basing any part of it being "bizarre" because she's an alien creature. If not for their resemblance to the human form would it not be bizarre?

Furthermore to that, tough alien hunters, even if they are female being tickled seems odd. Yes, odd is a better word I suppose than bizarre. I guess its just an inital conflicting image. We tend to not associate tough and brutal with what can be the gentle and lightheartedness of tickling. And the fact they're tough, scary, ugly alien creatures seems sort of downplayed and trivialized by them being tickled, ticklish, or suspceptible to being tickled. It makes them look vulnerable in such a way that is queer for them. Not queer as in gay, queer as in awkward.

I'm not saying I would not want to draw that or would not, I'm just saying that initially the idea does seem odd, as its never crossed my mind before and it doesn't logically add up.

But in getting back to your point of this forum and the art here, I've grown to learn that actuality, realism, and plausibility aren't always a concern or matter of fact. And thats just fine, great even. I've always known this about art, I am an artist myself, but I've had the opportunity to experience it in this way also, here on this forum, and I'm grateful for that. 🙂
 
No worries mate, I get your point, and I can see how we see the issue from different points of view. I'm a massive fan of the Predator films (except AvP, ugh...) and I definately agree on the whole unsuitability of tickling in the context you state. Anyway, it's probably just because it's a female Predator, and fyi, I'd leave the mask on! 😛

As for other pics, have you considered combat/action poses, such as leaping, whilst wielding some of the other predator weapons such as the razor-net or power disc? You're clearly onto a good thing here, itd be great to see more. 🙂
 
I liked the films too, and I've loved the series since I was a kid.

As for leaving the mask on, I won't be doing that all the time. I actually see it as a sexist thing, even though I understand where you're coming from. Its like wanting to see a beautiful woman's body but expecting to put a paper bag over her face because it doesn't measure up to the rest of her. If you can't accept one single part of the body, what business does anyone have having the rest of it?

That, and like I've said several times now for this specfic topic of female preds, I have my ways of making them less ugly and more feminine. It may turn out to be a challenge, but I welcome it, and I'm sure something good will come from it. 🙂

As for other pictures of predators, thats just a given that you'll be seeing action scenes and stuff like that. I just like establishing profile shots and basic poses before I get into the more deliberate stuff. I've even been thinking of creating my own characters and giving them some sort of a backstory.
 
Celtic_Emperor said:
As for leaving the mask on, I won't be doing that all the time. I actually see it as a sexist thing, even though I understand where you're coming from. Its like wanting to see a beautiful woman's body but expecting to put a paper bag over her face because it doesn't measure up to the rest of her. If you can't accept one single part of the body, what business does anyone have having the rest of it?

Ah, you misunderstand, when I said I'd leave the mask on,
it'd be say... if I did a tickling pic, it wasn't intented to be advice directed towards you. (That'd be a bit rude, considering!)
 
No no, don't worry, I didn't misunderstand you, which is why I said "even though I understand where you are coming from".

I just saw an opportunity to make a point. I'm sure alot of people would have reacted the way I suggested. There was this time in high school where there was this girl, she had a really hot body, and had everything where it needed to be, but her face was a little ugly. Sure, I admit it, but I'm not shallow like that. Anyways, I overheard some guys talking about her as she walked by and they made a comment, I think one of them said "yeah, I'd do her, if she put a paperbag over her head!"

And this image in my memory sparked when you made your comment, even though, as I said, I understand what you meant. I just saw an opportunity to make note of something I feel is wrong. Just like that girl from high school shouldn't have to put a bag over her face, female or male predators for that matter, shouldn't have to wear their masks for nearly the same reason.

I didn't plan on it happening, but it did. Memories, you never know when they might come in handy! 🙂
 
Not a problem, I'm no sexist, and I assure you that I don't treat the fairer sex like that in real life, and I agree completely with the honourable point you're making. 🙂
 
Good.😀

I'd hate to have to gouge your eyes out too. 😛

Thank you though. Its good to know another guy is not a piggy-swine either! ^_______^
 
Celtic_Emperor said:
Good.😀

I'd hate to have to gouge your eyes out too. 😛

😱

I'm naturally the chivalric sort. Born 600 years too late, IMO! 😀

Regards,
Morden
 
It may seem sily to ask this, but how long have you known me? Was it just until you posted or had you already seen my art before? For all I know you're a member of my yahoo group.

Are you on devianART by any chance? If not, you should create an account there, and then we can link to eachother.
 
Celtic_Emperor said:
It may seem sily to ask this, but how long have you known me? Was it just until you posted or had you already seen my art before? For all I know you're a member of my yahoo group.

Are you on devianART by any chance? If not, you should create an account there, and then we can link to eachother.

I haven't had the pleasure of knowing you personally, but I've been a "lurker" here for quite a while, and I've always liked the art you've posted on the forums.

You have a Yahoo Group? Cool, mind if I check it out? 🙂

Hmm, that's an idea. I've always considered creating my own webpage for my stuff, but have never gotten around to it. I'll definately give it some thought, but is it hard to do?
 
Well, I know you don't know me, me, but I meant my art. Ok, so you do know me.

Yeah, I have a yahoo group. The link in my sig will take you too it. Or you can go into my profile and get the link that way.

Yahoo groups are easy to get, you don't have to create anything yourself save for choosing your color schemes and options. If you want your own deviantart page, you can go to deviantart.com and create one.

Deviantart is alot better than any yahoo group.

As for my own website, I don't have the time to create my own, but I would if I had the time. I wouldn't need to use yahoo then or any other group service. The obvious benefit however to having multiple pages is that word gets around sooner and you're more likely to get hits for your art.
 
hmmm

I adore your pic just as I imagined them in one of my fanfics (except armoured)
But according to the novels and all... the females are not hunters/warriors but are many times bulkier and tougher than men.
The society is matriarchic and the men hunt for status and the right to breed with the most and best females.
 
Yeah, I figured that was true and the way their society works. But then that would cut the females out of the action and are less likely to be drawn by artists.

Matriarcal socities are nice and all, as they hold women in high esteem like it ought to be, but its also a form of bias itself, in that women are so respected that because of their gender they are decided to be unfit for any of the activities a male would have.

In a way, its like old Europe, where women were indeed respected, but were treated like property and weren't allowed to think for themselves, do for themselves and be by themselves.

And in a more current way, its just like how women are still not allowed to serve on the front lines as a combat soldier in the US Military even if they want to.

In this same way, I think it would be wrong as an artist to remain technically faithful to the real system of the predator universe as that is a form of sexism masked in a deep respect for the female gender. If thats what you want to do because you plan on focusing on the females at all, then its fine I guess.

I'd rather create a mutual playing field where women can do the same things men can do.

In fact, I've been thinking of my own predator story/comic wherein a female warrior fights her way through the ranks and earns the right to join the males in hunts and such. At first she's almost ostracized for going against the system, but eventually she proves herself to everyone and is made an exception to what you just told me and eventually she becomes the captain of an elite squad of predators and they are fiercely loyal to her out of respect and admiration.

If you've seen the movie GI Jane, its sort of like that. 🙂
 
Celtic_Emperor said:
And in a more current way, its just like how women are still not allowed to serve on the front lines as a combat soldier in the US Military even if they want to.

Ahh, that's a real moral/political minefield (no pun intended), and there are a myriad number of reasons why women aren't allowed to engage in frontline service. As an interesting aside, it's been scientifically proven that women make better pilots, and owing to the different combat scenarios in which they'd be involved, there isn't much argument against them flying fighters.

Anyway, your fanfic sounds fascinating, i'll be looking forwatrd to it! 🙂

Regards,
Morden
 
Oh yes, I can think of many reason as well why its not...efficent lets say, to allow women to fight. Plain and simple, they cannot carry as much weight, are not as strong (and that factors in to the weight of a weopon and being able to handle it effectively) and their size and constitution in comparision to the male form and physiology is fairer, gentler, and cannot take the same strain and abuse that our bodies can. They do not make ideal combatants and in the larger scheme of things, they would be a liability to any infantry unit they are in.

This is all a generalized fact, but a fact none the less. It represents the majority of women in the military.

But I feel strongly that those that are an obvious exception, not necessarily because they're stronger or tougher, but because they have the right state of mind and right psychology for it and are equipped to handle it mentally, then they should be at least given the benefit of the doubt and given the chance to serve on the front lines in an infantry unit if thats what they want. Especially if its a transfer after already having previous military experience.

As for women being better combat pilots, I agree. Tests have proven, both militaritic and civilian, that women have better visual aqquity than men and have better reflexes and response times. And when you're in a cockpit, these things matter more than anything.

If they were allowed to fly fighter planes however, it would only be fair to allow them to be apart of the other different services, such as being a navy seal (again, if they passed the right type of initial training and have previous experience of some kind).

Women would be good with stealth as well, and sneaking around and spying, so being a navy seal and a woman doesn't sound unrealistic either, I think.

The one job I think women are not suited for in the military is being an MP. Because then its a matter of physically keeping the peace among your own people. And if a female MP ever had to arrest someone or break up a fight, I doubt they'd be taken seriously and whomever they'd be arresting would most likely cause trouble for them later (probably by pressing charges or playing pranks) just to be an a$$. If it were a male MP, there wouldn't be any bull$hit like that because they're then running the chance that MP would kick their a$$ later, off duty, for screwing around like that. They don't fear a female MP, so they not only do not take her seriously, but assume she's not going to be able to physically do anything about it anyway, and that she ought to be punished for even trying.

This would be especially true if she was arresting someone of a higher rank, or worse, a commissioned officer. Or worse at that, an officer with connections to the brass. While situations like this can and probably do happen to male MPs as well, women would be more prone to it I think, simply because they're women.


Thank you. I look forward to creating more. 🙂


EDIT:

I almost forgot the obvious solution to this problem and I forgot to mention it- create all-female units/squads.

Yes, its still a form of bias in the military, as it still implies that women cannot hang with the men or are in their league, but it does solve the problem itself.

Any woman wanting to join such a unit could, and they could be armed with weopons they can definitely handle. If such units could prove useful on the battlefield, any General who would not utilize them is a fool.

In retrospect, I think this is a very good idea. Women can join infantry units of this class freely, and it gives the military another offensive edge and allows the women in the units to act as a unit in sync. without running the risk of compromising an all-male unit, if it was just a woman or two in a male unit.

An all-female unit wouldn't have the same breakdowns in discipline than a woman or two in a male unit would, or vice versa (if that ever happened).

The effectiveness of an all-female infantry unit is still questionable and is a liability in and of itself in the greater scheme of things in a warzone, but it is an asset. And really, at the very least, as sad as it is, its another person holding a gun. When you're in a warzone thats really all that matters and its all generals care about besides position and strategy and orders during a firefight. Someone being old enough to hold, raise, and fire a gun. Women can do much better than the young teens barely old enough did in Nam(as contemptable as it was to even have them there), so there should be no qualms.

Another soldier is another soldier, right? When it comes down to that, and the women who would join and aid in such a task willingly do, what does it matter?

I have some doubt about female units being effective at taking ground and being a forward advancing unit, but a female unit would make a perfect cover, flanking, or support unit. I really do believe this is something to be considered. And in a larger perspective, it would allow the military to be rid of the sexism over time, women would be more respected in military roles, men and women could fight together as comrades, and both will be able to serve their country equally and recieve and earn the same pride and honor. No more, no less.
 
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