The alien abduction "test".

[BigJim]

I found the book Communion to be a bit of a mish mash, which seemed to keep repeating the same incident over and over again.

One thing you should check out though is the film FIRE IN THE SKY starring James Garner, based on the 'true' experience/story of a guy called Travis Walton. As a film it is pretty mediocre for 95% of the time. However the 5% bit where he is aboard the alien spaceship is not only the scariest thing I have ever seen, but I guarantee once you've seen it, you will never ever forget it.

The film of Fire In The Sky was complete shit. It was good showing the bit where he went missing, the loggers getting the third degree and the subsequent manhunt; but the scenes inside the "craft" are totally fictionalised. They are nothing like what he actually reported as having happened to him.

I don't remember James Garner actually. I remember Robert Patrick and D.B. Sweeney being in it, but not Garner.

 

[TicklishLurker]

Is that you with the green head

Actually, I think he was the helmsman....

 

[toneus79]

the scenes inside the "craft" are totally fictionalised. They are nothing like what he actually reported as having happened to him.

Assuming of course that Walton's account itself wasn't totally fictionalised. For my part though, I found the scene in the spacecraft a very authentic and scary representation of what actually happens to you when you are abducted (that is if my 40% score counts for anything).

I don't remember James Garner actually. I remember Robert Patrick and D.B. Sweeney being in it, but not Garner.

See the IMDB link for full cast list.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106912/

 

[giggleygirl25]

i got 28%

 

[toneus79]

Anyway going back to the whole test thing, I think this girl is being made to come up with some answers.

(used to own this vid by the way)

 

[BigJim]

Assuming of course that Walton's account itself wasn't totally fictionalised.

Indeed.

Because it was so visible, the case has attracted more publicity than probably any other. Certainly (and predictably) the anti-side of the argument wheeled out Phillip Klass to lay into the case. I personally think Walton did a half credible job of rebutting Klass's comments against him in the Fire In The Sky autobiographical book that he published at the time of the film. I see a lot of critiscism of Walton from Amazon reviewer, citing a case study that apparently blows it wide open how false the case was, but his sources seem to keep leading back to comments made by Klass and others prior to the FITS book release. In that book Walton lays into Klass's logic and methods, especially critiscising his honesty in reporting his findings.

I don't know personally. Walton's case in unique in a lot of respects, or at least, significantly deviant from the "usual pattern".

For my part though, I found the scene in the spacecraft a very authentic and scary representation of what actually happens to you when you are abducted (that is if my 40% score counts for anything).

For my part, I think it not only bears no relation whatsoever to Walton's report, and it bears at the most only a superficial resemblance to more "normal" abductions. (Walton's case is pretty unique.) The creatures bear no resemblance to any usual ones, the proceedures they carry out bear no technical resemblance to ones carried out by alleged abductors (things can be described more in detail than just "I wuz jabbed with weird metal implements")and the interior of the craft looks more like Stig of the Dump's house than the inside of some super-science craft. All those years of evolution and they can't manage basic housekeeping??? Hem hem. Generally the interior is spotless, the air itself quite often pungent with a starchy, clinical smell reminiscent of an operating theater, although they themselves smell like a pile of rotting refuse left on someone's garden rubbish heap. It was certainly scary, but I don't see it as anything close to authentic.

If anyone has the inclination, they might want to read the book that Walton wrote that was published just after the film came out.

 

[Mastertank1]

Naaaah!

Is that you with the green head

That's our dorky cousin clem. Last time he tried to abduct someone, he got captured by Ozark Mountain rednecks. We had to rescue him from the meatrack in their smokehouse! 😛

 

[Mastertank1]

Hey, guys;

we had a nice, light-hearted, funny thread going here, and then someone went and started a serious discussion of UFO sightings and abduction literature!

What a buzz kill! 😡 (Just kidding, fellas )

 

[toneus79]

For my part, I think it not only bears no relation whatsoever to Walton's report, and it bears at the most only a superficial resemblance to more "normal" abductions. (Walton's case is pretty unique.) The creatures bear no resemblance to any usual ones, the proceedures they carry out bear no technical resemblance to ones carried out by alleged abductors (things can be described more in detail than just "I wuz jabbed with weird metal implements")

I think you might also need to check out the famous Ufologist, the late great 'Bill Hicks'. He was able to provide hard anecdotal evidence, that Aliens do great Dental Work.

 

[toneus79]

we had a nice, light-hearted, funny thread going here, and then someone went and started a serious discussion of UFO sightings and abduction literature!

What a buzz kill! 😡 (Just kidding, fellas )

You're just pissed, because we are on to you

 

[BigJim]

I think you might also need to check out the famous Ufologist, the late great 'Bill Hicks'. He was able to provide hard anecdotal evidence, that Aliens do great Dental Work.

Never heard of him, which is probably not surprising. I've only read three or four books about this, including Communion, Fire In The Sky, Adbducted (Ann Andrews) and Intruders.

Suffice it to say though that the "icky goo" style of the FITS movie is nothing like anything I have knowledge of, or have heard from anyone else with greater knowledge. Scratching my head now to remember anything that happened in FITS that resembled dental work...

 

[BigJim]

That's our dorky cousin clem. Last time he tried to abduct someone, he got captured by Ozark Mountain rednecks. We had to rescue him from the meatrack in their smokehouse! 😛

Was that the one who said someone told him to "squeal like a pig bow-ah"?

 

[toneus79]

Never heard of him, which is probably not surprising. I've only read three or four books about this, including Communion, Fire In The Sky, Adbducted (Ann Andrews) and Intruders.

Never heard of Bill Hicks You need to get out more.

Anyway this Wikipedia link will give you a start. (see also Flying Saucer Tour Vol. 1.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hicks

 

[Avenger314]

24% for me.