The Chiefs are a bad franchise...period.

[SamuelKhan]

I am ashamed to be a loyal fan of the Kansas City Chiefs. I supported them in the horrible seventies (jumping on the Steelers bandwagon for the time being), even in that magic year of 1981 when Marv Levy had instilled hope with an 8-4 record, only to choke to 9-7, which wasn't bad. They did beat the defending champ Raiders in their last game in Oakland. After that, they struggled again, amongst the failures was the epic draft bust of Todd Blackledge, the tragic death of up and coming RB Joe Delaney and two more dismal seasons before Carl Peterson took over the team with Marty Schottenheimer as head coach in 1989.

The great draft picks of Derrick Thomas and Neil Smith was the beginning of a resurgence in KC turning Arrowhead stadium into an intimidating and loud venue for any visiting team. The Chiefs would finally get back to the playoffs and have some success with aging QB Joe Montana and revived the career of Marcus Allen, who would later set records as a Chief. reaching the title game in 1993. Unfortunately, that was the only bright spot in the past 20 years.

Since then, there were major playoff meltdowns in 1995 and 1997 deepening the horrible post-season legacy of Schottenheimer. The collapse began in earnest during the Monday Night Meltdown against the hated donkeys in 1998, and capped with total falldown of 2008 at 2-14. At that record, a coach would normally get sacked.

As of this writing:

Rod Marinelli, Lions...no surprise here.

Mike Crennel, Browns 4-12, fired.

Eric Mangini, Jets 9-7, lost four of five to end season, fired.

Herman Edwards, Chiefs 2-14, still employed...WHAT THE FUCK???????

Only the Lions are worse this past season, and it couldn't get any worse than the immortal 0-16.

 

[punkrockergirl]

the chiefs arent a bad franchise.. they have a good owner and some of the most loyal fans in the nfl, the problem is it seems everywhere they are either way too young or way too old.. it happens to all franchises at some point.. they will be back to their old ways in a few years time and i dont think herm is a bad coach and i dont think he should be fired, he did a decent job with what he had.. they were close in almost all their games, id say give herm another draft and see what he does next year then make the descion on keeping him or not

 

[Cy/MiG]

At least they aren't the Lions. 😀

 

[Cy/MiG]

I will agree that Herm needs to go, just because he is a lousy coach.

But the Chiefs showed promise this year and had a solid draft class.

Another good draft class and some good coaching and they may 'pull a Dolphins'.

Tyler Thigpen isn't horrible, a serviceable QB.

Bowe is a good WR.

They can trade LJ and T-Gonz for more picks.

Their D is young and showing moxie.

All they need to do is draft well the next two years and they'll be okay.

 

[punkrockergirl]

I will agree that Herm needs to go, just because he is a lousy coach.

But the Chiefs showed promise this year and had a solid draft class.

Another good draft class and some good coaching and they may 'pull a Dolphins'.

Tyler Thigpen isn't horrible, a serviceable QB.

Bowe is a good WR.

They can trade LJ and T-Gonz for more picks.

Their D is young and showing moxie.

All they need to do is draft well the next two years and they'll be okay.

i think this kid is going to be great.. the next star to come from nowhere ala brady or warner

 

[Cy/MiG]

i think this kid is going to be great.. the next star to come from nowhere ala brady or warner

He's better than Brodie Croyle and Damon Huard, thats for sure. 😀

 

[punkrockergirl]

lol im not sure why i think he will be great.. just something about him .. watching his descions and throws and he seemingly got better every week.. now get him a decent o coordinator and fire chan gaily.. and get him a line and another reciever and see what he does

 

[Tickle Fiend]

I never understand why there's always someone who is ashamed of their team. There shouldn't be any complaining if the worse thing you can complain about is losing. That's going to happen to every team. Fans aren't the one making the decisions that are hurting the team.

At the very least, you should probably lose hope. I don't know that the Chiefs have been bad long enough for you guys to lose hope. I'm sure they'll get it going sooner-rather-than-later.

Lions fans, God help you.

 

[punkrockergirl]

I never understand why there's always someone who is ashamed of their team. There shouldn't be any complaining if the worse thing you can complain about is losing. That's going to happen to every team. Fans aren't the one making the decisions that are hurting the team.

At the very least, you should probably lose hope. I don't know that the Chiefs have been bad long enough for you guys to lose hope. I'm sure they'll get it going sooner-rather-than-later.

[B]Lions fans, God help you.[/B]

and cowboys fans.. your an aging team with too many "stars" for its own good.. at least the chiefs are young and have a real coach and not a yes man

 

[Illtcklu]

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Herman Edwards, Chiefs 2-14, still employed...WHAT THE FUCK???????

Only the Lions are worse this past season, and it couldn't get any worse than the immortal 0-16.

Well first off that is uncertain. General manager changes in KC might bring about a new head coach. Remains to be seen......

If not here seems to be the philosophy (be it right or wrong is always up for debate) The Chiefs are going young. Instead of trying to patch holes in the dam they have completely committed to rebuilding. Rather this will work out is always a gamble. They have a lot of positions with question marks still, including QB. Committing to a head coach might be the best move for this franchise. Oakland has played hopscotch with head coaches and look at how well they have come along.

You have to make sure the players buy into the system, and the best way to do that is for the heads of the organization to get behind the coach and show that they have bought into it. That sends a message to young players.

 

[Barbershopman]

Chiefs

I'm with you SamuelKhan. I too have been a loyal chiefs fan since the late seventies (I was 10 months old when they won Superbowl IV). The problem with the Chiefs over the past few years is the same thing that doomed them in the 1970s. They let their core players get old without developing anyone behind them, however I would hesitate to call them a bad franchise.

Their owner was one of the most respected men in the game in Lamar Hunt. Yet he showed too much loyalty to Carl Peterson. Peterson, for all he did resurrecting the team couldn't draft. He had Neil Smith in 1988, Derrick Thomas in 1989, and Dale Carter in 1992. Other than that, his first round draft picks were busts (Trezelle Jenkins and Percy Snow anyone?). Three out of twenty is failing in my book.

I will agree with you on this, Herm needs to go. Rebuilding or not, any coach worth anything should be able to win more than two games. He said in his press conferences that they were in six games into the fourth quarter that were losses, that comes down to coaching.

My biggest problem with Harm, is that under him as a defensive minded coach, our #1 offense went to #31 but our #32 ranked defense only improved to #29, not good.

My hope is that with a good GM, and a decent coach, we can have a team we can be proud of.

Barbershopman