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The Passion of the Christ... Mel Gibsons New Film (Thoughts Comments on the film etc)

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http://www.thepassionofthechrist.com/splash.htm you can view the Trailer thier

the film comes out Feb 25 Nationwide i think. But what are your thoughts on this movie? since it has already sparked some complaints from people even before its Release.

But frankly really i could care less if people in the World are offended. if this movie is good and portays Christ in the right way and for who he really is. Then more power to Mel Gibson. since he is catholic i heard and is strong in his catholic faith
 
Amen to that. As long as its bibicly correct and doesn't portray Jesus, his diciples, his mission or his likeness in a blashemous way, or contorts who and what he was then and is now and will always be, then I don't see a problem with it. There have been movies that are blashemous to the persona and person of Jesus Christ. Movies like "Jesus Christ Superstar", and especially "The Last Temptation Of Christ".

I myself am a Roman Catholic, just like Mel Gibson. He is strong in his faith and interviews and reports say he prefered it when mass was celebrated in the traditional way (in latin, with the tabernacle in the center rather than off to the side, kneeling for communion, and the whole nine yards). He's supposedly also lobbying and petitioning on the side to try and bring these elements and several others back to the catholic church where they may not be present.

Personally, I agree with him (although there still would be a need for english, spanish, and all the other languages that make the catholic church so diverse).

I'm proud to be a catholic, as I'm sure he (Gibson) is. As long as he sticks to his guns with this and doesn't faulter or second-guess the fruits of his (and his crew's) labor, then more power to him. God bless the man.
 
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As a Protestsant, I hope as well that it stays Biblically based too. Too many movies about Christ have him either wimpy (Greatest Story Ever TOLD, for example) or way off the scriptural mark (Last Temptation of Christ, for ex.)

Side note, why do they usually use a wimpy looking guy for Christ? he was (presumabably ) a carpenter like Joseph, so he would have some uipper body develepement, right? I hope they make Him look like a "real" man, not some effeminate Shakespearian type, you know?

My $0.02
 
I'm glad we can agree here. Catholic or protestant, we are all christians if we believe in Christ. 🙂

I used "Jesus Christ Superstar" and "The Last Temptation Of Christ" as examples because in "Superstar" he is portrayed in a hippie, light and comical fashion. So much so, in my opinion, that it takes Jesus less seriously.

I used "The Last Temptation" as an example because its one of those "what if?" movies. Basically, for those that don't know, Jesus decides to accept sin in the world and in him and refuses to die on the cross. He flees, finds a wife, and has many children, and also revokes God and strays from his path.

So as to not seem like a heretic or anything, which I'm not, I will say this:

I realize those two movies are trying to make a point. But they didn't have to do it in the fashion that they did. It was uncalled for and naturally provoking to devout religious people.

I realize "Superstar" was a musical and was made in the 60s, or 70s. Therefore it was heavily influenced by those generations. It shouldn't have been is my point. It could have been made successfully without an appeal to society in that time.

I realise "The Last Temptation" was a "what if?" movie. But we needn't focus, ponder, or wonder what would have happened if Jesus decided to disobey the Father, accept sin, and live his life out not according to divine province. Thats questioning God's integrity and fills us with doubt.

While its true Jesus was tempted all the time, and even by Satan himself, he bent for no one, though acted according to the law. This movie establishes him as a coward, among other things. Totally blashemous and unnecessary. If they wanted to make a movie like this, they could have done it with what the Bible gives us. There was no need to create an alternate lifestyle for Jesus other than the one he had. Even if this was just a vision he had of what would happen if he left the cross, and in the end he wakes up still on the cross, 'going there' was unnecessary.

While dying on the cross was the final temptation of Christ, he accepted it. End of that chapter.

Now, kyhawkeye, I agree with your assessment. While I don't believe Jesus would have been pumped, I do believe he would have been more built then he was. Jesus is a humble man, modest and not as self-concious as we are in our weaknesses. Before calvary he was beaten and starved and so look the way he did up until the end, only to be restored in appearance and in soul three days later.

I believe Hollywood though has exagerated the physical appearance of Jesus, both when he's suffering and when he's not. This was so we could be more empathetic toward the character in the movie. They wanted us to see him as a pushover so that we could understand his plight. His mannerisms and physical appearance in the movies are devices used to create emotional connections.

While I don't have a problem with this in general, movies have overplayed it.

Perhaps the reason people are already pissed off or wary of this new movie made by Mel Gibson is because they fear seeing the truth. People have become complacent with their beliefs and this movie is going to shake them up. Its up to us however to accept it whole-heartedly. Theres no reason to believe Mel Gibson, being the devout catholic christian that he is, would create this movie that would portray Jesus or the Bible itself in a negative light.
 
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True i agree with Both of you kyhawkeye and Celtic. If this Movie bring people to Christ and they let God change thier lifes for the better and that Christ can shine in thier lifes. Then im all for this Movie. because it is gonna be God alone that will change this world and thier hearts of man. Im baptist myself. My Dad has bring a christian now for 25 years and my Mom belives but she dosen't really try to grow in her faith at all. It is sad really🙁 i still love my mom and all but it takes more then just beliving you gotta put your faith into action and grown in your faith in Christ as much as you can. and Well myself i have been doing the same thing also im like my mom i belive totaly but i haven't been trying to grow in my faith anymore as i was when i first become saved and let God into my life. Im 20 years old now though

i wanna hear from some other members on this like thier views and take on this film that mel Gibson is filming
 
The Jewish Community is in an uproar over the portrayal of the people. I understand they were being depicted as the ones who had Jesus killed. The band of religious leaders calling for his death were just piece of Gods plan to Have his Son die for our sins. Since the Jewish people believed hime to be a false prophet,they were blind to the message. We as Chriastians should see his power,his strength,that is the power of salvation!Praise the Lord and thank you for this thread.A prayer for all here to abound more and more knowledge of His word, and the strength To live by His Word--God Bless Ronniei
 
Celtic_Emperor said:
I'm glad we can agree here. Catholic or protestant, we are all christians if we believe in Christ. 🙂

Then my way of thinking :
First i am atheist - i do not believe in the person you named above - and i feel really good indeed 🙂 🙂
But as it seems catholics are the most powerful people of this planet - and you cannot criticise them.
I would say they make money on poor people * that is my point of view * i tell it by what i saw or heard about so.....
That is why i became atheist by the way - but i go to churches for the minima.
By the way BBR what has that person made for you ???? - you want to convince people by going to see a film then became adepts ------- shhhhhame.
Is that a commercial film or what ????????
 
With regard to Jesus Christ, Superstar and the argument that it appealed too much to the current generations... that was the whole point of it. It wasn't supposed to be bringing the Gospel to life as it was written verbatim, it was more of a "What would it be like if Jesus had come now instead of then? Would people act the same way as they did?"

He was portrayed as a hippie because hippies were the fringes of society in those days, just as Jesus asssociated Himself with the outcasts and fringes of His time.

I'm not saying it's a perfectly accurate depiction of the Gospels -- of course it isn't. It is a good look at Judas Iscariot and Pontius Pilate, though, and it helps one to remember the humanity of Jesus.
 
@ tongueticklr4F- Yes, that is true. Also, one of the biggest points as to why the jewish people didn't accept Jesus as the Messiah is because they expected him to come in the form of a great champion who was going to conquer and smite the enemies of Israel and dominate the region. They also expected him to be a powerful politician that would change the senate and create a powerful government for Israel.

The fact that Jesus came as an infant, and in the most humblest of ways, and that he came for everyone, jew and gentile and he was proclaiming the new covenant of God with man is the reason they did not accept him. Its also why the jewish people don't acknowledge or believe in the New Testament.

It is in fact the jews that sentenced Jesus to death. Pilate himself didn't want to do it, but he did so in order to appease the people and stop a riot from erupting. He tried several times to reason with the crowd, and he even sided with Jesus initially, but had to give in to their wishes lest they run amok.

But like you said, this was part of the divine plan. Jesus knew it had to happen, and so he didn't speak up for himself, aside from when he was questioned about who he was. The jews used his silence as an admission of guilt, and that was grounds enough for them to accuse him finally, in a court, of sorcery, blashemy, etc.

@ alf- You're intitled to believe whatever you want to, and I won't comment on that. I will comment however on your assumption of the church in general. Its quite an ignorant way to think, and its a shame that its for a pety, misconcieved belief like that that you are an athiest. I'd research better the church and its works before you render a judgement based on what you hear second-hand.

I personally believe, if you were to be an honest athiest, you would have to be a part of the church for quite some time first to know why you wouldn't want to be a part of it anymore. Picking out random things (from an outside perspective) in order to justify a reason isn't hardly good enough, at least thats the way I see it. But I respect you either way.

@ JoeSmoke15- Yes, when you put it that way, I agree with you. I just see it as too light-hearted. I can understand and appriciate the underlying messege in both movies, but they easily could have been done in a better, more tasteful way, is what I'm saying. There was no need for controversy; just truth according to what we believe.

Outside of christianity, this doesn't matter, especially to those that don't believe in Jesus the Christ, inparticular.
 
More about this FILM: Mel Gibson will be on channel 2 or Channel 6 i forgot which one. But he'll be on Tonight at i think 10:00pm my time on either Channel 2 or Channel 6 on 60 mintues im sure. so you Guys might wanna check that out as well he'll be talking about the film....
 
Well speaking only for myself I am looking forward to this movie and am very curious to see it. Mel Gibson has gone out of his way to make it historically accurate, even having the actors learn Aramaic and Latin (admittedly I had Latin crammed down my throat when I was in school; I wonder how much of it I will remember?). I heard the Jewish Anti-Defamation League is having a cow becuase they think the movie is anti-Semitic; but isn't it historically true that a powerful consortium of Jewish rabbis who were afraid of losing their power conspired to get rid of Jesus whom they saw as an agitator? History lists one particular man named Calipygias (please don't ask me if I spelled that right) as being instrumental in convincing territorial governor Pontius Pilate to have Jesus arrested.
Oh well. Like many other people I am anxiously awaiting the release of this movie.
 
Yeah, I heard about that. I'm going to watch it. I think Diann Soyer (sp?) is going to hold the interview with him. Hopefully we will get his personal take on this. She's bound to ask some tough questions on behalf of many religious communities, society in general, etc.

Mel is sure going to be in the hot seat. But knowing him, he'll do just fine. 🙂


EDIT: @ Corruptress- Yes. Its not so black and white as it has been painted. The high priests and farasees (I know thats not how you spell it but I don't have the Bible handy) were all hypocrites anyways for the most part. They practiced religion with their mouth and body, but they did not practice faith within their heart. They were idle and complacent and the coming the true Christ upset them, so much so that they felt threatened. Jesus himself tells them often to their faces what hyprocrites and soothsayers they are. The ministry of Jesus Christ was seen as propaganda against the law and tradition and so he was branded a heretic.

The farasees kept barking at Caesar's door, and they finally got an answer by the name of Pontius Pilate. We know the rest.
 
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Well, the prime time special has aired. I for one really enjoyed it. Mel Gibson did a wonderful job of explaining his position and thoughts on his production.

Did anyone else watch it?
 
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