I'm just gonna say some things that I think.
First off it seems to me that Drew is against a person inflicting pain on another person, even if the person receiving the pain has consented to it.
I agree with him if it's a lot of pain and I disagree with him if it's a little pain. Of course, a little and a lot are subjective. Every body has different limits.
I have inflicted some pain on my girlfriend when I've put her in difficult bondage positions. We are fine with this, Drew might not be.
However, I'm not a fan of inflicting a lot of pain on a sub, like excessive spanking, poking with pins, shocking, etc. Even though it's consentual it still bothers me if I see it, but I don't know if it's immoral. Drew has said that he thinks it is.
But, I don't think Drew's opinion means that he is against all that bdsm has to offer. There is more to bdsm than just inflicting pain on people. He is just against pain in bdsm.
Enough about pain. I don't think the whole dom/sub thing is that complicated. It isn't for my girlfriend and I at least. I'm a ler, which is a type of dom and she is a lee, which is a type of sub.
We do switch a lot (at tying and tickling each other), but she doesn't do me the same way I do her. She is still submissive, even when I'm being submissive. And when she does me a make out session comes after it, but we aren't dom/sub when we are giving each other orgasms. We have them when ever we feel like.
When I do her my goal is to physically exhaust her and nothing comes after the tickling session. I just push her to the max. Sometimes I might get an orgasm after it, but usually not.
I also like bondage a lot and I've gotten her to like it more. I like putting her in difficult bondage positions sometimes. And I like putting a collar and leash on her. We have tried it the other way, but neither of us liked it.
We also do this thing called punishment that only I do to her. She always has to wear her collar when we do it and usually I blindfold and gag her too. But even though it's called punishment it can be good or bad. We usually alternate. When it's good I do a lot of things to her that she likes and she is in a comfortable bondage position. When it's bad I do things to her to frustrate her and I put in her in a difficult, uncomfortable bondage position. Sometimes a little pain is involved, but not a lot.
The reason we call it good punishment or bad punishment is because either way her getting tickled isn't the main focus. And she loves to just be tied and tickled the most.
Also, she can't put me in all the positions that I put her in. But, when she does me sometimes she is mean or bad, and she enjoys getting me back good.
But the bottom line is we only do all the stuff we do for 2 main reasons. Because we think it's sexy and fun. All of the things we like about what we do derive from those 2 words.