The use of a world class verbal teasing component deserves more attention

[brotherted]

I think my post title kind of says it all.

Seems to me, we video renters and buyers often praise the verbal / psychological component as really important, valuable, awesome, etc. While, on the other hand, producers either aren't interested, or aren't capable, of pulling it off. Even though the cost to a producer for including it in their next video would be the low, low price of... free.

Here's an example of what I'd consider 99th percentile verbal teasing:

• https://spankbang.com/a9udk-qb6ww1/playlist/kietol

Do you agree? Why isn't verbal teasing in most videos, in not every video? And do you have links for your favorites?

 

[BritishSteel]

The studio from which that clip originated- Tickle Central- were masters of producing videos that featured verbal teasing, and I fully agree that can make a tickling video so much better.

Sadly, it seems to be a lost art nowadays, but as you say, if producers want to give their videos something extra, it’s definitely something that should be included!

 

[FFT32]

The studio from which that clip originated- Tickle Central- were masters of producing videos that featured verbal teasing, and I fully agree that can make a tickling video so much better.

Sadly, it seems to be a lost art nowadays, but as you say, if producers want to give their videos something extra, it’s definitely something that should be included!

I like this thread. I also like verbal taunting/teasing and tickle talk in videos. I’m also going to look at the bright side of things and enjoy the extra rush I get from the verbal aspect of tickling in real life situations. Maybe a little bit of a lack video-wise is a good thing because it’s not overdone lol?

 

[aberdeen]

It is true that verbal teasing can and should play a large role in any Ler's methods to obtain the best responses from a Lee!
The problem with studio production using this tactic is that it really requires an interchange / interplay between the Ler and Lee that can't really be scripted because the tickle talk or banter between the two should be spontaneous...
That being said...there are other threads where choice comments have been posted and are easily reviewed..
Some are predominantly available as "TickLER phrases" (ie the use of a victory call / signal when you 'hit that spot' or standard lines that you find become part of your personal weaponry used to work the Lee into a mental and physical mess! But most of the great exchanges are going to be unscripted, unpredictable and spontaneous...and because the very nature of tickling or 'tickle torture' being different each time (even the same Ler and Lee participate), its difficult to know what is going to be said...
unless you use a sort of 'usual' script ... I always enjoyed going at one spot until my Lee was needing a break and making them earn it by naming the next target spot! It was a delicious tactic because I never started with their worst (best?) spot ...and once they realized I was playing that game..they were caught and the only. way out was to comply and name the next sensitive area... whooo boy!

Even then, I didnt use that method every time so variety and unpredictability was the key!

 

[brotherted]

The problem with studio production using this tactic is that it really requires an interchange / interplay between the Ler and Lee that can't really be scripted because the tickle talk or banter between the two should be spontaneous...

My reaction to your comment was kind of a "Yeah, so?" 🙂

What I mean is, while you're correct that it absolutely shouldn't be from a "script," it wouldn't exactly be a very complicated thing to (secretly) give the 'ler a set of phrases in advance, and then expect them, assuming they have even minimal intelligence, to then correctly use the phrases while on-camera, as well as ad lib similar phrases so that it sounds organic.

In other words, I don't think the problem is that studios are doing this, but they're finding the 'lers are screwing up the delivery of the phrases, and end up editing it out. It's that the studios aren't even thinking verbal teasing matters at all.

 

[rally]

I like it, but there's a lot of videos where it goes too far... It can enhance a video, and even bring better reactions out of the victim, but too many times the 'ler is taunting/talking over the 'lee the entire video so it's hard to hear their reactions and that always ruins it for me.

 

[SoleMates]

I tend to get a lot of praise from customers from my interactions with the models on-camera. The models themselves often want to come back way more often than I can afford, so I must be doing something right.

My 2p on the topic;

It's true that most production houses don't do this, and the ones that do, I often wish they didn't. It very much cannot be scripted, if only because eventually you're going to start recycling your canned phrases and people are going to notice. I'm not kidding when I say I've made a drinking game out of reading posts here; you really can take a shot whenever a handful of words come up over and over and get a good buzz going on. Not only that, but it seems like almost no one in this community except for a handful of people are capable of writing dialogue that doesn't sound entirely cringe when spoken out loud. And it is in fact pretty easy to get distracted when you're on set and involved in a shoot, so the fact that you need to remember "trigger phrases" on top of everything else is going to fall by the wayside. Top that off with the fact that even less people in this community can deliver lines convincingly than they can write them, and... yeah, I'd really rather people just stick to what they know.

The only thing that makes this stuff believable or natural-seeming is the dynamic between the people in the scene; there'll be no natural dialogue if there's no chemistry and there's enough creepers running around with cameras that even seasoned pros aren't often in the mood unless they're shooting with someone they know or are touring with. And even then, half the stuff people come up with is not stuff I want to hear, because most people are just not that clever and you're lucky if you're just not going to hear "kootchy kootchy koo" over and over again for twenty minutes. I'm perfectly fine if I never have to hear some mouth-breather talk about "tickle surgery" ever again.

That said? I think if your studio gets praise for doing something well, it would be better to encourage said studio to keep doing it rather than try to get everyone else to ape it, especially if they're going to do it badly. We want to reward studios that stand out, and go above and beyond, and if that's their jam, then that's how it should be.

 

[Wrestledom]

Every single one of my favourite videos has a great verbal component to it.

Absolutely Tickled - the vids with Maria are an excellent example. Probably the best I've seen, but it requires the right kind of ler/llee combination to do it.

Most, well, frankly, the overwhelming majority of people are not very good at verbal teasing. Add in the fact that it's on camera, and a fetish video, with someone you probably don't know well, and in today's world, it's exponentially easier for your 'fetish life' to overlap with your 'normal/other life'. Yeah I can see why it isn't much of a thing. It's a shame, but it is what it is I guess.

 

[brotherted]

Most, well, frankly, the overwhelming majority of people are not very good at verbal teasing.

I agree with the rest of what you said, but my take is that someone with at least average emotional/verbal intelligence ought to at least be able to be coached -- not scripted per se -- but coached in advance to do it in a way that works for the situation. I'm not sure why so many people's minds on here immediately only go to the dumbest, most repetitive, most annoying "Goochee Goo" scenarios, when it wouldn't have to be that at all.

Even if we assume a 'ler with absolutely zero creativity, but at least average intelligence... I could easily give them a variety of themes or concepts for verbal teasing for a 10 minute video, along with the rule that none of them of the concepts were to be used longer than 20 seconds each. I'll bet a lot of people on here could do that too.

• "Do you like it more here... or there... or how about there?"
• "Tell me you love to be tickled... That wasn't convincing at all; say it more believably... I'm still not believing you."
• "In this game you're going to not react at all: Wait, you just lost. Let's try that again."
• "Which is best? The quick, fast pokes? The wiggle? Playing the piano? Wait... I have to start over."
• The 'ler fake laughs whenever the 'lee laughs
• Etc.

 

[DebonairDavid]

I'll admit this is a lost art form and even I should get better at it, but I think the reason for my case is not having enough sessions in order to practice and gradually get better over time. Then again, whenever I have tickled female friends in the past, I did get them to feel overwhelmed by talking to them in a sadistic way. Ever since I acquired my Transatlantic Accent (a combination of British and American English) back in 2020 to overcome the speech problems I had since childhood, many women have found attractive, so I'm sure hearing whisper high quality tickle talk into their ear will cause them to produce amazing reactions as well. 😉

 

[ManInDistress]

What I liked about the blonde woman in the clip, was her playful sadism. She seems to enjoy her dominance over the other woman. Her teasing is good, but her facial expressions also add to the video's appeal.

Teasing is one way for the tickler to display their dominion over the ticklee. I'm fond of videos that provide you with the feeling that the lee is completely under the ler's control.

 

[satintickler]

I agree with the sentiments in this post. Verbal teasing among tickling videos produced is sorely lacking and I wish it was put into videos more often and I really miss Tickle Central for this reason.
That being said there are still some good options out there. Scarlett Sinns clip4sales page has a lot of verbal taunting and Also Ginary from here clips4sale site does great verbal teasing as a tickler during many of her videos. There are some great specific clips I can think of from FTKL tickling that have some of the best verbal taunting I've ever heard in tickling videos.
If you have any other specific examples to share on here that would be great and im happy to share more as well. But finding the good verbal taunting videos is really hard work these days.

 

[EvilSpacePuppy]

Some of the best teasing comes from when the lee was acting like an overconfident brat or is still trying to hold back their reactions (whether out of stubbornness or as to not reveal their weak spots.)

"Awww, you were acting so tough before, what happened?"
"You said you could take it but you're already begging? Oh, you poor thing, we're only just getting started! <3"

Proper teasing can make the experience all the more unbearable.

 

[Cuckoldrplover]

World class verbal teasing is so essential but hard to come by. I've seen some great ones over the years and always crave meeting people who have that talent. Especially given my cuckold kink, a tickler who knows how to tease not only my ticklish wife but me while I watch is invaluable. We both melt and I know I get very weak and aroused when teased properly.

Looking for any referrals to any such teasers... lol

 

[satintickler]

A couple of examples of great verbal teasing I've found recently.
First one is an F/M clip from Bleu Fetish and features Karyna as the tickler. Her taunting and vocal style i really enjoyed.
www.clips4sale.com/studio/389/30571235/psycho-jersey-shore-fem-dom-hes-tickled-by-two-mistresses-1080p-mistress-karyna-and-mistress-charlie-torment-poor-thrash-while-they-hold-him-down-and-tickle-him-mercilessly

Second one is from FTKL. If you love hearing "Tickle Tickle Tickle" Inessa Joys performance in this clip is pretty fantastic in my opinion she uses a very teasing an menacing tone.
www.clips4sale.com/studio/29443/6343405/the-hunt-for-natalya-pt-2-ticklish-punchline-1080

 

[Navegazer11]

I think my post title kind of says it all.

Seems to me, we video renters and buyers often praise the verbal / psychological component as really important, valuable, awesome, etc. While, on the other hand, producers either aren't interested, or aren't capable, of pulling it off. Even though the cost to a producer for including it in their next video would be the low, low price of... free.

Here's an example of what I'd consider 99th percentile verbal teasing:

• https://spankbang.com/a9udk-qb6ww1/playlist/kietol

Do you agree? Why isn't verbal teasing in most videos, in not every video? And do you have links for your favorites?

I always found the countdown trick to be such a bit of mind fuckery. Watching their eyes darting, and the anticipation build, such that they start nervously giggling. Bliss.

 

[Lee Ishler]

I often wondered that myself. I have seen a few good verbal teasers in videos but not many. They are often silent, or if they do verbally tease, it's kinda weak. For me, it's just as important as the tickling, whether I'm a Ler or a Lee.

The word itself, "TICKLE", I find to be a turn on. I've heard many people say that saying, "Tickle, tickle, tickle" is baby talk, and is a turn off, but it doesn't necessarily have to sound like baby talk, it depends on how it's done. And there's all kinds of verbal teasing that can be done, the more imaginative the better.

 

[SoleMates]

Honestly? The more I think about it, the more it's in the delivery and the chemistry. Like, the most cringe-creepery can sound funny as hell if delivered in the right way, so it's kinda impossible to judge the effectiveness of "world class verbal teasing" by just listing out lines that sound horrible without context.

I came to this conclusion after re-watching my latest video(s) with Mia Hope and Amethyst Mars. If you were to transcribe our talk about it being "opposite day" or Amethyst observing where Mia is the most ticklish it would read as utterly retarded, but on video? It's borderline hilarious in places.

You can't script that kind of interplay. It's either there or it isn't.

 

[satintickler]

I often wondered that myself. I have seen a few good verbal teasers in videos but not many. They are often silent, or if they do verbally tease, it's kinda weak. For me, it's just as important as the tickling, whether I'm a Ler or a Lee.

The word itself, "TICKLE", I find to be a turn on. I've heard many people say that saying, "Tickle, tickle, tickle" is baby talk, and is a turn off, but it doesn't necessarily have to sound like baby talk, it depends on how it's done. And there's all kinds of verbal teasing that can be done, the more imaginative the better.

I 100% agree. I also find hearing the word "Tickle" to be a turn on. I don't particularly like "Tickle Tickle Tickle" being said in a baby talk type tone either. It can be used more effectively if is done in a vindictive and sarcastic tone. Sometimes a sinister tone works well too.
One video comes to mind with Christina Carter as the tickler. The evil an sinister tone in which she says "Tickle Tickle Tickle" in this one is just so perfect in my opinion.
www.clips4sale.com/studio/29443/25291969/superheroine-tickle-takedown-cat-got-your-toes-1080-mp4

 

[Lee Ishler]

I 100% agree. I also find hearing the word "Tickle" to be a turn on. I don't particularly like "Tickle Tickle Tickle" being said in a baby talk type tone either. It can be used more effectively if is done in a vindictive and sarcastic tone. Sometimes a sinister tone works well too.
One video comes to mind with Christina Carter as the tickler. The evil an sinister tone in which she says "Tickle Tickle Tickle" in this one is just so perfect in my opinion.
www.clips4sale.com/studio/29443/25291969/superheroine-tickle-takedown-cat-got-your-toes-1080-mp4

I agree with what you say here. As for the video, you can't sample it, there's no sound. As for actually purchasing tickling videos, I never have, since there's so much free stuff online. And maybe this is why I've yet to find any really good verbal teasing videos, because likely the good ones you have to pay for. To each his own, but I'd sooner not pay for any. I'd like the real thing, which of course is not easy, but paying for it, nahhh. I think if I were desperate enough, and I had the time, I'd sooner look for someone online I could meet, and use the money for that instead, the traveling expenses, etc.

But back to the subject at hand, I definitely find verbal teasing important. I have imagined myself doing it, and if a ler tickled me without saying anything, I'd find that boring.

 

[fonzieluck]

I agree about the verbal teasing. It's a lost art. Mia would always be the best at verbal teasing in my opinion. Even now when I get to be the lee, my girlfriend is phenomenal at verbal teasing, and it adds so much to the helplessness. From the tickling, to the sexual teasing afterwards, she is very good at it. While I'm giggling like a little boy, she humiliates me, and makes me feel so helpless.

Again, the best!

 

[Lee Ishler]

I agree about the verbal teasing. It's a lost art. Mia would always be the best at verbal teasing in my opinion. Even now when I get to be the lee, my girlfriend is phenomenal at verbal teasing, and it adds so much to the helplessness. From the tickling, to the sexual teasing afterwards, she is very good at it. While I'm giggling like a little boy, she humiliates me, and makes me feel so helpless.

Again, the best!

When you say Mia, do you mean the blonde girl from...I forget the name of the studio, but I have seen her in videos, and yes, she's probably one of the best verbal teasers I've seen. In videos anyway. There's probably good ones in real life too, I just haven't met any.

 

[dreamr]

My favorite type of verbal teasing comes before the tickling starts. I remember a few czech language videos from Tickle Submission where two or more ticklers talk to each other before they get started, clearly adding to the victim's dread. I always wished those had subtitles

 

[Oldnewguy]

I really enjoy verbal teasing during a session. One of my favorites is telling my lee that I’m going to count to ten and I will stop. Then I count 1 2 3 4 5 6 7…3 4 5, um where was I? Guess I’ll have to start over. All while my lee is going Nuts from being tickle tortured.

 

[Frowg]

Yeah. Verbal teasing is awesome. It encourages the lee to talk more. I like hearing more begging and protests from the lee. It's so bland for me when it's just a girl tickling and a girl laughing. I get bored.