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This is old one man you DON'T wanna mess with

Hard to say where that started. It sounds like the old guy was giving him crap for something he said when he got on the train. Still its obvious who threw the first punch, I don't know why he and the camerawoman act like they can press charges.
 
It looked to me like the black guy started it, but I think the old guy might went a little bit too far. o__O I'm not sure if he can press charges or not.. I learned in business law that if you're acting in self defense, then you're not held liable. However, going overboard.... Well, I guess that's for the judge to decide if he acted within reason or not.


Geez, why must humans be so stupid sometimes? Some people just have to grow some patience. Or a brain. <___<;
 
I am waiting for the "justice brothers" to come out and claim that this was a hate crime and that the white guy is a racist . It probably won't happen because its caught on tape that the black guy started it .
 
I love they way he's bleeding all over the place still trying to tell the old man he's going to fuck him up. He's like half crying.
 
Apparently someone also had a camera phone outside the bus....

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Apparently someone also had a camera phone outside the bus....

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What? Did the guy run off the bus then immediately run back on it when he saw the dude come back for him? Chickenshit.
 
:shock:

It's entirely too hard to tell how it all started, but clearly a case where both people lost their heads in a gigantic way.
 
When he started screaming he was a Vietnam vet I swear to God I thought he was going to run back on the bus and eat him.
 
It's refreshing to see someone getting what they deserve for a change. Act like a thug, spew racist comments, and strike someone and then get your face smashed in. It's too bad that the old vet didn't finish off this ignorant piece of trash.

I don't feel the old man went overboard in any way. This is a complete stranger, behaving in a very hostile and threatening manner, approaching him and physically attacking him. He knows nothing else about his assailant's psychology, morals, sobriety; he has no knowledge as to whether the idiot is carrying a weapon or how far the other man is intending to take the violence. The vet's life is in danger, and he has the full right to completely disable this scum bag.

Also: the fat-ass yelling "say it again, pinky!" needs to shut the fuck up.
 
I wish we could have seen more from before the camera was turned on, but I did watch this thing for a second time and have some observations. Seems pretty clear that the black man sees the old man as a racist, but what gave him that idea, we may never know. The old man does get up and attempts to walk away from the situation, seating himself near the front of the bus. Now he's not completely blameless, because he is jawing with the guy the entire time. But it is clear that the black man throws the first punch. Once that happened, the old man had a right to defend himself.
 
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I wish we could have seen more from before the camera was turned on, but I did watch this thing for a second time and have some observations. Seems pretty clear that the black man sees the old man as a racist, but what gave him that idea, we may never know. The old man does get up and attempts to walk away from the situation, seating himself near the front of the bus. Now he's not completely blameless, because he is jawing with the guy the entire time. But it is clear that the black man throws the first punch. Once that happened, the old man had a right to defend himself.

Sticks and stones... Words are never justification for striking someone. Once that strike was thrown, that jaw became open game.

Edit: The old vet could have done better to stop fueling the situation with his mouth as well though, yeah.
 
Sticks and stones... Words are never justification for striking someone. Once that strike was thrown, that jaw became open game.

Edit: The old vet could have done better to stop fueling the situation with his mouth as well though, yeah.

Not justifying anything. Remember, I stated that once that punch was thrown at him, the old man had a right to defend himself.
 
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