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Tickle Torture
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TicklingIsLife
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Very true TTD.
I totally agree
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I totally agree
......Uh, No. Not true at all.
Man is not inherently evil. That's a cop-out excuse used by people who have chosen to be evil, thinking that it justifies their selfishness, as well as their lazy/cowardly refusal to accept responsibility for their decisions. If you think it's all the same, you obviously haven't tried expending the effort to do the right thing.
Unless of course, that's just your sig quoting some band that panders to all the nihilistic angst that only suburban 15-year-olds can muster, in which case, don't take it personally and keep the stereo down from now on.
And btw, TiL, nobody likes a sycophant.
I don't agree that human nature is evil and don't believe the Bible supports that viewpoint. Nor do I believe evil is what lies behind a taste for tickle torture.
But I happen to like tickle torture, and I think that's all that TIL was agreeing with too, so no need to accuse him of sycophancy.
BTW, "political correctness" has become a common catch-all phrase used to damn the opinions of others and its use is very tiresome. And it's not being PC to be civil to one another.
Returning you to topic....
evilqueen
But I happen to like tickle torture, and I think that's all that TIL was agreeing with too, so no need to accuse him of sycophancy.
BTW, "political correctness" has become a common catch-all phrase used to damn the opinions of others and its use is very tiresome. And it's not being PC to be civil to one another.
Returning you to topic....
evilqueen
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So far research shows that humans are the only species to have tickling as we know it. Theory is that it is a friendly response that shows no ill will or true aggression. Laughter is a non-aggression response in all species. True tickling can be torturous, but the initialization is probably not "evil". Humans are only evil if you believe that version of that book- not all versions of that book state it that way and many other religions don't accept that outlook at all. Free will is the choice not to be evil anyway.
That said, I prefer to drive them crazy with intense tickling also. Its better for both of us.
That said, I prefer to drive them crazy with intense tickling also. Its better for both of us.
At the risk of being labeled a 'counter-sycophant', I agree completely with MadKalnod. The pathetic "Man is inherently evil" line is nothing more than an excuse to act evil.
IMHO, the rite of baptism sends all of the *wrong* messages. To me, baptism basically says, "we're all born with original sin [i.e., evil/corruptness], and we must spend our lives trying to be something that runs counter to our 'true nature.'"
I totally disagree, and suscribe to the opposite view: we are born pure. We are only "corrupted" through various social influences.
IMHO, the rite of baptism sends all of the *wrong* messages. To me, baptism basically says, "we're all born with original sin [i.e., evil/corruptness], and we must spend our lives trying to be something that runs counter to our 'true nature.'"
I totally disagree, and suscribe to the opposite view: we are born pure. We are only "corrupted" through various social influences.
TickledToDeath
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While there may be Evil within "man", which by the way means both male and female of the species, it is UP to each "Man" and "Woman" to deal with it and weed out said evil. Evil being in the litteral sense.
Whereas a silver of evil-ness when tickling can be a good thing making that kind of evil an oxymoron. An Evil Pleasure! 
TTD (The Orignina TTD)not the New TTD.
Ps. Yo Brother, I hope you don't give me a bad Reputation!!
Whereas a silver of evil-ness when tickling can be a good thing making that kind of evil an oxymoron. An Evil Pleasure!
TTD (The Orignina TTD)not the New TTD.
Ps. Yo Brother, I hope you don't give me a bad Reputation!!
The Bible doesn’t actually state that ‘man is evil’ that’s only something that has been formed from the religious doctrine preached by the early roman catholic popes. It is interesting to note that these same popes were responsible for more and bloodier wars that any other religion in history.
On a personal note I like the idea of tickle torture. It’s not because I’m evil - it’s just a control thing - I think several psychiatrists would agree with me on that one. The world isn’t black and white. There are shades of grey. Everyone resides in those shades of grey, justifying there actions by relating them to other - more terrible acts.
We shouldn’t bring religion into tickling. It’s something we all agree we like - weather others do or not. Why can’t we leave it at that!!
Kursal
On a personal note I like the idea of tickle torture. It’s not because I’m evil - it’s just a control thing - I think several psychiatrists would agree with me on that one. The world isn’t black and white. There are shades of grey. Everyone resides in those shades of grey, justifying there actions by relating them to other - more terrible acts.
We shouldn’t bring religion into tickling. It’s something we all agree we like - weather others do or not. Why can’t we leave it at that!!
Kursal
TickledToDeath
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Religion and Tickle Torture don't mix, except in ONE instance. When your ticklish victim is screaming "OH MY GOD< PLEEEEEEEEEEEESE STOP"!!! 😀
TTD
😀 TTD
Tickling in itself is neither good nor bad, evil nor angelic, right or left. It is all in the perception, and how each individual views it in the eye of the beholder. In your opinion, tickle torture is the best form of tickling. In my opinion, playful tickling is by far the most enjoyable form of tickling. Neither of us are right or wrong, it is all a matter of opinion.
Mimi
Mimi
TTD,
I've said all I intend to say about religion elsewhere in previous threads, and I'm not going to start another when Q, Omega, Strel & Co. seem to have the topic surrounded. What I will say is that even if your interpretation of the Bible indicates that Man is inherently evil because of original sin, the whole point of that doctrine is that we must constantly strive to overcome that tendency. It is not a carte-blanche excuse to misbehave in whatever manner you please because "it's all just the same." If you actually read the Bible, you would know that. Now, if you were a follower of a Calvinist sect like Presbyterianism that believes in Predetermination (God decided whether you were going to Heaven or Hell way back at the dawn of Creation and nothing you do can sway Him, with the possible exception of becoming a Calvinist) I could see where you might get that idea, but even then most genuine Calvinists still maintain the importance of a moral life regardless.
Secondly, I do recognise that evil exists and it is all around us, though not to the overwhelming extent that some would have us believe. (C.S. Lewis said that there are two great errors that one can make concerning the Devil: One is refusing to believe he exists, and the other is becoming too preoccupied with him and seeing his influence at every turn. Too many people make that second mistake and won't acknowledge it.) Evil is the result of human decisions: The decision to give in to cowardice, ignorance, selfishness, and weakness. As such, people who perform evil need to own up to it instead of blaming it upon "their evil nature" or "the devil's temptations." I fail to see how a demand that people be held accountable for their behavior and accept personal responsibility for their actions is "Political Correctness."
Political Correctness is the art of making excuses and denying responsibility. "I killed those people, but it wasn't my fault. I'm a victim of racist patriarchal society. I come from an impoverished home. My parents were abusive. I have Attention-Defecit Hyperactivity Disorder. I deserve compensation for the way my ancestors were treated. Republicans do illegal stuff too, so you shouldn't judge me until you've convicted them. Man is inherently evil and nothing I do can change that. It's not my fault." That sounds a lot more like your position. You don't appear to understand your own argument. In fact, given the mock-Social Darwinist nonsense you felt compelled to put in your original post about "The fitest (sic) may survive but the unfit may live" definitely leads me to deduce that you don't really believe what you wrote seriously, but rather said it because it sounded like a cool tough-guy bad-ass line from a 14 year-old's perspective. If that's so, I'm willing to chalk it up to the excesses of youth and be done with the topic.
I should point out at this juncture that I have no problem with TTD stating his personal preference for tickle torture, nor do I equate such a preference with evil. Since that only took up two sentences of his post, I was rebutting the other four sentences of pretentious adolescent twaddle about moral relativism, which was the part I quoted and specified. I personally don't give a fetid dingo's kidney whether he prefers playful or "intense" tickling, but I have no patience for intellectual laziness or nihilistic posing. It was this section, comprising at least 2/3 of TTD's statement, that I thought TicklingisLife was agreeing with, and if I'm mistaken then I am the first to apologise for charging him with sycophancy.
I've said all I intend to say about religion elsewhere in previous threads, and I'm not going to start another when Q, Omega, Strel & Co. seem to have the topic surrounded. What I will say is that even if your interpretation of the Bible indicates that Man is inherently evil because of original sin, the whole point of that doctrine is that we must constantly strive to overcome that tendency. It is not a carte-blanche excuse to misbehave in whatever manner you please because "it's all just the same." If you actually read the Bible, you would know that. Now, if you were a follower of a Calvinist sect like Presbyterianism that believes in Predetermination (God decided whether you were going to Heaven or Hell way back at the dawn of Creation and nothing you do can sway Him, with the possible exception of becoming a Calvinist) I could see where you might get that idea, but even then most genuine Calvinists still maintain the importance of a moral life regardless.
Secondly, I do recognise that evil exists and it is all around us, though not to the overwhelming extent that some would have us believe. (C.S. Lewis said that there are two great errors that one can make concerning the Devil: One is refusing to believe he exists, and the other is becoming too preoccupied with him and seeing his influence at every turn. Too many people make that second mistake and won't acknowledge it.) Evil is the result of human decisions: The decision to give in to cowardice, ignorance, selfishness, and weakness. As such, people who perform evil need to own up to it instead of blaming it upon "their evil nature" or "the devil's temptations." I fail to see how a demand that people be held accountable for their behavior and accept personal responsibility for their actions is "Political Correctness."
Political Correctness is the art of making excuses and denying responsibility. "I killed those people, but it wasn't my fault. I'm a victim of racist patriarchal society. I come from an impoverished home. My parents were abusive. I have Attention-Defecit Hyperactivity Disorder. I deserve compensation for the way my ancestors were treated. Republicans do illegal stuff too, so you shouldn't judge me until you've convicted them. Man is inherently evil and nothing I do can change that. It's not my fault." That sounds a lot more like your position. You don't appear to understand your own argument. In fact, given the mock-Social Darwinist nonsense you felt compelled to put in your original post about "The fitest (sic) may survive but the unfit may live" definitely leads me to deduce that you don't really believe what you wrote seriously, but rather said it because it sounded like a cool tough-guy bad-ass line from a 14 year-old's perspective. If that's so, I'm willing to chalk it up to the excesses of youth and be done with the topic.
I should point out at this juncture that I have no problem with TTD stating his personal preference for tickle torture, nor do I equate such a preference with evil. Since that only took up two sentences of his post, I was rebutting the other four sentences of pretentious adolescent twaddle about moral relativism, which was the part I quoted and specified. I personally don't give a fetid dingo's kidney whether he prefers playful or "intense" tickling, but I have no patience for intellectual laziness or nihilistic posing. It was this section, comprising at least 2/3 of TTD's statement, that I thought TicklingisLife was agreeing with, and if I'm mistaken then I am the first to apologise for charging him with sycophancy.
Saaaaay... What's with startin' ANOTHER religion thread?
Oh, and fwiw, I'll take either play or torment, as suits the one I'm tickling. I still play only consentually, though. Gotta wanna, y'know?
Lest I forget, eq, you're my new hero. You've a way with words.
dvnc
Oh, and fwiw, I'll take either play or torment, as suits the one I'm tickling. I still play only consentually, though. Gotta wanna, y'know?
Lest I forget, eq, you're my new hero. You've a way with words.
dvnc
It's not that I disagree with you, blankpage, it's just that I don't want to see a perfectly good tickle torture thread turned into another discussion about religion. I aim to keep this here forum safe for tickle torture, and playful tickling, and any other kind of tickle discussion. Debates about good and evil belong over in General Discussion, where those who enjoy them can dabble to their hearts' content.
T is for the Terror it inspires,
O is for the Orgasms it can bring;
R is for the Rat who never tires
of the hideous laughter he can wring;
TU is for Truly Unbearable tickling,
RE is for Really Excellent fantasy,
Put them all together they spell TORTURE
The kind of tickling that appeals to me😀 😉 😛
T is for the Terror it inspires,
O is for the Orgasms it can bring;
R is for the Rat who never tires
of the hideous laughter he can wring;
TU is for Truly Unbearable tickling,
RE is for Really Excellent fantasy,
Put them all together they spell TORTURE
The kind of tickling that appeals to me😀 😉 😛
TicklingIsLife
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Somebody talking smack about me?
😛 😛 😛 😛
😉 😀 😀
😛 😛 😛 😛
😉 😀 😀
EQ! You Poet You!
Before anybody else can beat me to it, I'd like to play the sniveling courtier/shameless sycophantic toady and offer my own paean to EQ:
E is for how Everything you write is great
V is for how my adoration is Virtually impossible to overstate
I is for how I find it easier to masturbate [after reading your posts]
L is for how I Love the way you challenge me to ideate
Q is for your Quality, which I can't overrate
U is for your Ultra-fine ability to moderate
EE is for EEk -- a sound you force your victims to orate
N is for your navel, which I'd love to see frantically Gyrate.
Put it all together, you get EVIL QUEEN -- the ideal tickling sophistiCATE!
Before anybody else can beat me to it, I'd like to play the sniveling courtier/shameless sycophantic toady and offer my own paean to EQ:
E is for how Everything you write is great
V is for how my adoration is Virtually impossible to overstate
I is for how I find it easier to masturbate [after reading your posts]
L is for how I Love the way you challenge me to ideate
Q is for your Quality, which I can't overrate
U is for your Ultra-fine ability to moderate
EE is for EEk -- a sound you force your victims to orate
N is for your navel, which I'd love to see frantically Gyrate.
Put it all together, you get EVIL QUEEN -- the ideal tickling sophistiCATE!
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TickledToDeath
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WAIT!!!!!!!!
This Two TTD thing is going to get real messy.
I hope you all know the difference between the Two TTD factor here.
This is going to be a problem, I can feel it.
Please, my friends, do not confuse us.
I don't know which TTD is being addressed here.
I do not want people who KNOW me to get angry at me or misunderstand things because of a Different TTD.
We need to resolve this one way or another so that TTD ME TTD are not confused fot one another.
Much thanks.
Sincerely,
The Original TTD
This Two TTD thing is going to get real messy.
I hope you all know the difference between the Two TTD factor here.
This is going to be a problem, I can feel it.
Please, my friends, do not confuse us.
I don't know which TTD is being addressed here.
I do not want people who KNOW me to get angry at me or misunderstand things because of a Different TTD.
We need to resolve this one way or another so that TTD ME TTD are not confused fot one another.
Much thanks.
Sincerely,
The Original TTD
