Tickling and torture

[Amanda Cortez]

After this thread with the models who do S&M and tickling I thought to start an own thread about tickling and torture. I juz wanted to know how you think about this subject.

Ok, I begin. Personally I love it to get tickled and I also love tight bondage. It's fun and it's also great to get tickled really hard and when the tickler shows no mercy. and now to the torture stuff. I like some spanking too and also a light bastinado or hot wax, but only when it doesn't become too extreme. If I can't sit or walk for a week then it would be awful. And I also wouldn't like it to get any scars form it.

But as I said in that other thread, I think tickling is a form of torture and to like it you must be submissive and so it fits really good together.

 

[rhiannon]

Tickling is a form of torture, that is true. But you don't have to be submissive to like it. I am not submissive whatsoever. Still I love losing control and totally giving myself over to the ler, being brought to my limits.

But only with tickling - I don't like pain, not even a little.

 

[Amanda Cortez]

Oh ..I am submissive, but only in bed. Normally I'm pretty tough and bitchy. Lol, need that in my job. So it's really fun to be the sub at home. With the pain I don't agree, but I understand it when others don't like it.
With the tickling your right and it's really great to lose control. Hehe ..and it's torture too when it's done long enough. But it's too much fun to be helpless when you have to act tough all day.

 

[rhiannon]

I mean I like to be passive, no doubt, but I don't think that makes me submissive. I could never do something like slave-master-play, and while I get tickled I am still provocative and sassy. That's the type of game that I like. 🙂

 

[Amanda Cortez]

Yeah, that's really fun. I'm sassy all the time, but these master and slave games can be fun too. Or getting tickled till you are willing to do everything. Hehe ...

 

[naughtylucy]

Well yes, I think there's a pretty definitive element of submission in being tickled, though it doesn't always go along with lifestyle submission or grovelling during a session. I'm not submissive (not remotely) in real life, which adds to the thrill of being tied up or pinned down and tickled/spanked/whipped by someone. But I like having something to fight against; I'm usually verbally abusive to the ler during a session. Usually in a way which I know will lead to more punishment.

 

[-Hari-]

Tickling is a form of torture, that is true. But you don't have to be submissive to like it. I am not submissive whatsoever. Still I love losing control and totally giving myself over to the ler, being brought to my limits.

But only with tickling - I don't like pain, not even a little.

This is true of me also, its nice to see someone else word it.

I only ever submit my body, never my mind. The sub/dom thing has never really interested me in the slightest, its too much like a game.

So its a torture but one I do so willingly, As for other tortures, I quite like ice and wax, scratching and biting, but they all fall in with tickling, I enjoy them so much that I take it for me not to please someone who wants to inflict.

I wouldnt put myself thru things I actually found genuinely torturous and I think thats what seporates a kinky person from a submissive.

 

[rhiannon]

I only ever submit my body, never my mind. The sub/dom thing has never really interested me in the slightest, its too much like a game.

Exactly. 🙂

Or getting tickled till you are willing to do everything.

That would never happen. I mean, it's possible that I say I'll do everything if it stops, but it's still ME who decides where "everything" ends. 🙂

 

[TickledToDeath]

Fine line between pain and pleasure and love and hate.
The more intense and merciless the tickling the better. As both ler and lee, absolute merciless tickling especially as the lee, the better making it walk on that fine line swaying back and forth.
Not much into the rest of the s/m stuff for as I am not into "pain". Pain only pisses me off and I am not submissive. In s/m play itself I would only be the Dom. Some spanking and hot wax is fine so long as it does not go overboard.

 

[Amanda Cortez]

Sure. There your right. It is me who makes this even though I normally wouldn't do it. Haha, but it's not something completely disgusting. It's juz a lol game. And back to the torture stuff. It is a thing I want. I would never let someone do it without my permission.
There also said someone something with fighting back and that's a game too. I mean if ya really fight back someone would get hurt too. Haha, at least when I do it, I do kickboxing. Lol. But for the game it's fun to fight back, get punished, promise to do somethind and then insult and provoke the partner so that he tickles ya again. Hehe ..and this is submissive, at least in my opponion.

 

[milagros317]

For me, tickling very much falls into the BDSM world. I love the power exchange aspect of it. 😀

 

[Amanda Cortez]

Same here. And I lov it to fight back and lose the fight. It's too much fun to get overpowered, tied and punished then. Hehe

 

[SantaFeSwitch]

There's definitely a play of masculine and feminine energies in tickling, as in kundalini, tantra, and ordinary sex in general and that energy exchange or power play is a large part of the attraction for many of us, including me.

But pain is a huge turn-off to me, whether receiving or giving. I understand that some peoples' pain is others' pleasure, but to me pain is anything that hurts because of tissue damage. Not cool in my book, not very affectionate or loving, but hey, different 'strokes' for different folks! More power to you if you're into that and it satisfies...

It seems to me there's at least a couple of ways the term tickle torture is used. For those of us who enjoy tickling but not pain it's not literally torture...that word is just used in a tantalizing tongue-in-cheek way--I could never tickle torture anyone for whom tickling is actually torturous, someone who really doesn't enjoy it, someone who may cry from being tickled. I'd rather tickle someone who wants to be tickled really bad who may orgasm from tickling, someone who associates tickling with pure pleasure, not with pain or torture. I like to call it tickle play. That may seem lame and vanilla to some on this forum but that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!

 

[BrightEyes1082]

I can give or take the tickling. The pain play is amazing, and really so is the
tickling, especially when done in the D/s aspect. The bond and intimacy (not
necessarily sexual, like in my case) developed between a Dominant and her
submissive makes all types of play intense and pleasurable (sometimes later,
if not actually during the play).

 

[Amanda Cortez]

Lol, I prefer the tickling as a sub and also the pain play, but your right, it's too much fun. And I also don't see why some ppl have problems to call it torture. I mean when both parts enjoy it, then its ok

 

[SantaFeSwitch]

Lol, I prefer the tickling as a sub and also the pain play, but your right, it's too much fun. And I also don't see why some ppl have problems to call it torture. I mean when both parts enjoy it, then its ok

Oh, I totally agree with you Amanda...I was just talking about my personal preferences...I'm one who doesn't enjoy pain play, but I can tickle as ruthlessly and unmercifully as anyone so I don't have any problem calling it tickle torture at all, I just use the phrase in a different way, in a more playful less literal way... 😀

 

[rhiannon]

I can tell you why some people have trouble calling it torture! Because that's the reason why vanilla people consider us to be weird! Tickling is normal and fine, make it torture and you're a sick pervert.

 

[SantaFeSwitch]

I can tell you why some people have trouble calling it torture! Because that's the reason why vanilla people consider us to be weird! Tickling is normal and fine, make it torture and you're a sick pervert.

Yea, you might be on to something there...it might frame it in a negative way. Framing is so important isn't it?

 

[rhiannon]

I think it's pretty obvious that someone will look at you weird if you like torture. 🙂 If it was normal to like torture, Amnesty International wouldn't exist! 🙂

 

[Amanda Cortez]

Mmh ...then I'm a pervert and I have no prob with it. But you know that it's no real torture. It's a game, the same as in any S&M relationship. If Simone gets tortured then with her/his permission. If it's unconsentual then we need amnesty or the cops. Lol

 

[SantaFeSwitch]

"Mmh ...then I'm a pervert and I have no prob with it."

Haha!

"But you know that it's no real torture. It's a game, the same as in any S&M relationship. If Simone gets tortured then with her/his permission. If it's unconsentual then we need amnesty or the cops. Lol"

Oh yea, I think everyone here understands that and some vanillas as well, but I bet many vanillas don't understand that...

Just curious tho, what is it about the 'pain play' that you like? Is it more the physical sensation or the psychological power play of being totally defenseless/vulnerable or both??

 

[rhiannon]

The thing is: for most vanillas, tickling IS real torture.

 

[SantaFeSwitch]

The thing is: for most vanillas, tickling IS real torture.

Well, there was a study of college students and it found that about a third of those asked said tickling is pleasant, about a third were neutral, and only a third said they didn't like it.

Promising, huh? About a third of the population are potential ticklephiles...

 

[rhiannon]

Well, did they add bondage and the length of being tickled longer than ten seconds in that study?

Because if they did, I am sure the answers would look quite different!

 

[naughtylucy]

I take your points about framing the fetish, but for me it's rather different. A lot of people in my life are aware that I'm into BDSM, but almost no one knows about tickling. I'm much more cagey about it, and would be horrified if it were to become common knowledge. It's my own narcissism attacking me.