Tickling as a paid service..right or wrong?

[vegasfootboy]

pay for tickling?

i was wondering what you guys think of drew barrymore paying a lady to come to her house and tickle her,, i mean she could have anyone in the entire world tickle her for free,, people who would pay to tickle her so maybe the fact that she pays the lady is because she wants it to be professional and not sexual,, i wonder if drew cares as to whether the lady enjoys tickling her or not,,has anyone heard anything else on the dre barrymore 30 min tickle sessions thing or what? im very curious about it as im sure many other ticklers and lees are,,,

 

[TickledToDeath]

No Ed..we have not been referring to THIS post, but to the others that have been posted by Shannon in other areas of the forum as personals or gathering/get togethers.

It would be the same as if you posted a thread about coming to a New Years get together and then telling everyone there was a $100.00 charge to come AFTER they contacted you to accept.

Sort of like that "Oh by the way" mentality.

I merely suggest that anyone who charges or intends to charge a fee should say so within the body of the post so that those that do not pay fees to tickle or to get together will not waste their time responding. That's all....😀



Ray

Great point and I agree. The posts in question should be and or should have been more ........direct and informative.

TTD

PS.
Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[cs217903]

Now you have to pay?

Jeez, I'm a little behind in this matter! I've never once paid or charged for a session, and let me tell you I WOULD BE BROKE!

 

[dtrell]

sighhhh...this thread isnt closed yet?????

 

[TickledToDeath]

I agree...

...this thread should be closed. Things are getting tired here and the points were driven home and then some.

Not that I care whether or not this thread is closed. All one has to do is stear clear of it and it will be un magically gone.


TTD

 

[cecilia]

why dont cecelia and shannon have a tickle fight to settle this once & for all. place your bets. oh, and i'll volunteer to referee.

I'm curious: Why do suggest that Shannon and *I* have a tickle fight to "settle this once and for all" and not Shannon and Phinneas or Shannon and MrParickler, etc.?

 

[Deleted member 2452]

I'm curious: Why do suggest that Shannon and *I* have a tickle fight to "settle this once and for all" and not Shannon and Phinneas or Shannon and MrParickler, etc.?

as i don't care for f/f anyway, but what makes people automaticly believe either of these ladies would be interested in tickling another woman!?

i'd like to offer my services in this duel; each lady gets to tickle me for 1 hour, and i'll tell you all who was the beter tickler.then in the time honored tradition, that lady will be judged as the corect person in this debate!

see? am i not a generous soul?😀
steve

 

[BigJim]

I'm someone who believes prostitution should be legalised and regulated, so obviously, I don't think it's in the least immoral for tickling to be a paid service.

 

[Roseblossom]

...am i not a generous soul?

Very generous, especially if you will be the one to pay Shannon $150 an hour to do it. 😛

Now, Cecelia may or may not agree to unpaid participation, depending on whether she/he is a man or a woman perhaps, or whether she/he is in the mood. Seems to me it's only fair to have equal pay for equal work, though.

Shannon's marketing doesn't seem to me any different than, say, Lady Elizabeth or Ticklish Phoebe touting their "Tickle Parties".

Is the banner ad on the chatroom page available for advertising? There's also ad space on the forum pages, so maybe they could take advantage of that, and

support the TMF at the same time.

~Rose~ with tongue in cheek

 

[drew70]

A few points if I may...

1) DTrell, no thread should ever be closed. What on earth are you thinking?! A conversation should resolve itself of it's own volition!

2) One look at $hannon's website will tell you what she's all about. It's no different from any porn site, complete with popups galore and very strong admonissions for those under 18 to take a hike.

3) I agree that loving to tickle tends to make a better tickler. For me, it's nearly tantamount

4) $hannon is trying to have her cake and eat it too when she says she loves to tickle but won't do it for under $150. You just can't resolve this conflict of interest so easily.

5) Don't even begin to entertain the idea that this was all a misunderstanding. $hannon made her play, and was ready with an excuse should anybody call her out. "I didn't mention charges because I thought that was a PRIVATE matter." Right. The money is private but the tickling is public?? Come on.

6) Notice how $hannon tries to shift the focus our objections with the title of this thread? By suggesting that we object to her because she charges for tickling, she maneuvers herself out of the role of deceiver and into the role of somebody being unfairly judged. And some of you are BUYING it! "Stop bashing poor $hannon"..."Close This Thread"....etc

7) $150 an hour???? No wonder she needs a hook to reel us in.

 

[venray]

Sorry D..I see no violations here that would warrant closing this thread. You may say that the topic has been beaten t death and it is boring, but if that is so, then we dont have to read it. Very few threads actually get closed or totally pulled here. A lot less than some would lead you to believe. Only those withat have turned into rampant flame fests our break all of the rules get tossed out.

I have to agree with Drew70, as long as a thread is within the rules of discusssion, there is no reason that it should be closed.



Ray

 

[milagros317]

Originally posted by drew70 (most deleted)
A few points if I may...

7) $150 an hour???? No wonder she needs a hook to reel us in.

Speaking just about the fee, it is very reasonable. The fee for an hour with a professional dominatrix around here is anywhere from $165 to $250.

 

[BigJim]

Speaking just about the fee, it is very reasonable. The fee for an hour with a professional dominatrix around here is anywhere from $165 to $250.

Certainly sounds a lot cheaper than any British escort I know. Erm... I mean... that I'm aware of. 😀


$150 is roughly £100. Over here an escort would cost about £250 for the first hour. ($375.)

 

[milagros317]

Professional dominatrices here are not escourts; in particular they do not engage in sexual intercourse or fellatio. That may explain the difference in price.

 

[BigJim]

Professional dominatrices here are not escourts; in particular they do not engage in sexual intercourse or fellatio. That may explain the difference in price.

I know the difference Mil. Over here a pro domme is even more expensive than an escort, hence the reason I used escorts as the example.🙂

 

[cecilia]

Very generous, especially if you will be the one to pay Shannon $150 an hour to do it. 😛

Now, Cecelia may or may not agree to unpaid participation, depending on whether she/he is a man or a woman perhaps, or whether she/he is in the mood. Seems to me it's only fair to have equal pay for equal work, though.


No, I wouldn't be interested in either paid or unpaid participation (and it doesn't depend on my gender or my mood).
In the first place, I don't engage in tickling fights or tickling contests as though they were cock fights, i.e., I don't do it to amuse spectators. My dignity isn't damaged by the suggestion that I should. You can make the suggestion as a joke, but it says something about you, not something about me.
In the second place, I don't settle substantive arguments by tickling. This isn't a personal contest; it's an argument about an issue. Some people are trying to make it a personal contest because they're crass, sexist, mysoginist jerks, but again, that says something about them, not me. I am not the only one who has voiced dissent with things Shannon has said, I am also not the only one who has discussed my personal life in a post. I'm the only woman who has done those things and I'm also the only one who anyone has suggested have a tickle fight to settle the argument. That shows an attitude which I don't respect, but the one who should be embarrassed about it isn't me.
About Roseblossom's uncertainty about whether I'm a man or a woman, I can't imagine what in my posts would make him/her wonder about that. Maybe he/she will enlighten me.

Sincerely,
Cecilia

 

[cecilia]

I'm someone who believes prostitution should be legalised and regulated, so obviously, I don't think it's in the least immoral for tickling to be a paid service.

Doesn't obviously follow from the fact that you believe that prostitution should be legalized that you believe that tickling as a paid service isn't immoral. Aren't there things that you consider immoral that you still don't think should be illegal?

In any case, no one (including me) said that selling tickling is immoral (the false advertising was wat people objected to). What I said was that it isn't generous and it isn't an act of friendship. If your lawyer is representing you for a fee, he's not doing something immoral, but the fact that he's representing you for a fee isn't evidence that he's a nice guy. If he's representing you on a pro bono basis, that's evidence that he's a nice guy.

 

[Roseblossom]

Cecelia

I was being sarcastic/facetious/amused about this entire tempest in a teacup, particularly the silly idea of a ticklefight to settle it - as though the women on this forum are here for the men's entertainment.

Also there's a running joke about never knowing what gender a member might be.

My jokes were not aimed at you personally, and I should not have even used your name. I'm sorry for that.

Sincerely, Rose

 

[Roseblossom]

Fuck off, slimeball.

Sincerely tongue-in-cheek,

~Rose~ 😛

 

[cecilia]

Re: Cecelia

That's okay...thanks for apologizing 🙂
Cecilia

I was being sarcastic/facetious/amused about this entire tempest in a teacup, particularly the silly idea of a ticklefight to settle it - as though the women on this forum are here for the men's entertainment.

Also there's a running joke about never knowing what gender a member might be.

My jokes were not aimed at you personally, and I should not have even used your name. I'm sorry for that.

Sincerely, Rose

 

[BigJim]

Doesn't obviously follow from the fact that you believe that prostitution should be legalized that you believe that tickling as a paid service isn't immoral. Aren't there things that you consider immoral that you still don't think should be illegal?

Yes it does and off the top of my head, none that I can think of.

I can't think of tickling as a paid service and offering sex as a paid service being in categories that are worlds apart. Not many people here would agree with that most likely, but I view sex very differently from conventional society. I don't think being an escort/prostitute is in the least bit immoral or cheap. (Cheap as in a judgement of character, not the price charged.) As far as I'm concerned, if everyone taking part is fully informed and consensual, then it's okay.

The only time I think something should be illegal is if it negatively affects some other personage or agency. From rape and murder to tax evasion and parking illegally. There are things that I personally can't stand the thought of (homosexual sex for instance) which I think shouldn't be illegal, but my feeling on that are based on my personal wiring and I don't consider it immoral. Nor would my personal distaste at the thought of two guys having anal sex put me of being friends with either of them.

In any case, no one (including me) said that selling tickling is immoral (the false advertising was wat people objected to). What I said was that it isn't generous and it isn't an act of friendship. If your lawyer is representing you for a fee, he's not doing something immoral, but the fact that he's representing you for a fee isn't evidence that he's a nice guy. If he's representing you on a pro bono basis, that's evidence that he's a nice guy.

I saw the title of the thread and posted before reading any of the other replies. I was also unaware of the controversy over the previous thread, that mis-led some into thinking it was a personals ad, instead of a business ad. Seeing the title I thought someone was asking a straightforward question about whether charging for tickling was immoral. Personally I don't and would certainly be visiting Shannon if I lived in Florida.

I get your point above. The "generous" bit is open to debate. Shannon is charging considerably less than a pro domme would do, so her rates are generous. However she's charging so she's obviously not being as generous as a friend in the tickling community would be. There was obviously some confusion over the contents of her post in Personals, which riled some members. I gather from what I've read here that Shannon has said plainly now, that she charges for it. Maybe the fact that she likes tickling anyway is the reason that her rates are lower? If they are, then she's being generous by some people's conception of the word. By other people's she's being tight, because she's charging for something that a lot of female members do purely for fun. For most she's somewhere in-between. ( Oh shit, I'm turning into Paddy Ashdown! )

 

[cecilia]

Yes it does and off the top of my head, none that I can think of.

No, I don't think it does and I find it hard to believe that there's really nothing you consider immoral that you don't think should be illegal. There are a lot of things that negatively affect some other personage that shouldn't be illegal. It's immoral to deliberately hurt someone's feelings making remarks that are intended to do that shouldn't be illegal. It's immoral to tell someone who loves you that you love them and plan to stay with them when you really plan to leave them as soon as you've had sex, but doing that shouldn't be illegal. Hate rallies and hate speech are immoral, but one can make a good case that they should be legal. Many things just shouldn't be legally regulated because the government shouldn't be interfering with peoples' personal lives and civil liberties. That doesn't mean that if you do them, you're not doing something wrong.
Whether prostitution is wrong is another topic, not one I really want to get in to. In any case, I don't think it should be illegal. I just think $150/hr for tickling is quite a bit, to the point where I'd call it mercenary. I guess that how one feels about mercenary behavior, either on the giving or receiving end, is something eacb person settles for him/herself...personally I don't find it admirable, and that is why I wouldn't do it. Now starting a small business offering a form of massage and charging what you'd pay at a message school wouldn't be mercenary; that would be a public service.

I can't think of tickling as a paid service and offering sex as a paid service being in categories that are worlds apart. Not many people here would agree with that most likely, but I view sex very differently from conventional society. I don't think being an escort/prostitute is in the least bit immoral or cheap. (Cheap as in a judgement of character, not the price charged.) As far as I'm concerned, if everyone taking part is fully informed and consensual, then it's okay.

The only time I think something should be illegal is if it negatively affects some other personage or agency. From rape and murder to tax evasion and parking illegally. There are things that I personally can't stand the thought of (homosexual sex for instance) which I think shouldn't be illegal, but my feeling on that are based on my personal wiring and I don't consider it immoral. Nor would my personal distaste at the thought of two guys having anal sex put me of being friends with either of them.



I saw the title of the thread and posted before reading any of the other replies. I was also unaware of the controversy over the previous thread, that mis-led some into thinking it was a personals ad, instead of a business ad. Seeing the title I thought someone was asking a straightforward question about whether charging for tickling was immoral. Personally I don't and would certainly be visiting Shannon if I lived in Florida.

I get your point above. The "generous" bit is open to debate. Shannon is charging considerably less than a pro domme would do, so her rates are generous. However she's charging so she's obviously not being as generous as a friend in the tickling community would be. There was obviously some confusion over the contents of her post in Personals, which riled some members. I gather from what I've read here that Shannon has said plainly now, that she charges for it. Maybe the fact that she likes tickling anyway is the reason that her rates are lower? If they are, then she's being generous by some people's conception of the word. By other people's she's being tight, because she's charging for something that a lot of female members do purely for fun. For most she's somewhere in-between. ( Oh shit, I'm turning into Paddy Ashdown! )

 

[BigJim]

Missed a bracket there somewhere Cecilia.


Uh-huh, yeah. Personality morality things are an exception. I guess there isn't as much on the top of my head as I thought.


As for prices, well people have different idea about what is a bargain and what is a rip-off. The way the "adult services" market is structured, $150 an hour is pretty darn good. You obviously think it is pricey and that is totally cool. But I'd defy you to find anyone who'd do it for a cheaper amount at Passive Arts or anywhere similar.