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And, with this statement, this discussion is effectively ended by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law">Godwin's Law</a>.FeatherFeet said:
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Tickling "Cult" Update
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MrPartickler said:
And if it's not over, but this is taken as a motion, I'll second it. This debate grows tiresome, especially insofar as parties cannot make meaningful connections at the most rudimentary levels, and it has resulted in a valued forum member declaring she'll not post here again. Let's not allow a concept alone to prove further damaging.
MaxSpeer said:
1. adherents of an exclusive system of religious beliefs and practices
2. fad: an interest followed with exaggerated zeal; "he always follows the latest fads"; "it was all the rage that season"
3. a system of religious beliefs and rituals; "devoted to the cultus of the Blessed Virgin"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
That's pretty much the definition of a cult as far as I am concerned (isn't Google practical?)
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Woof!MaxSpeer said:
I mean, dammit Max!
F*@&er! You're killing me!MaxSpeer said:
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OMG! So, ya like it "ruff", do ya?
...you are *SOOOOOOOOOOOOO* toast, Lynnburger!
I can see it all now... who let the dogs out?
Thank GOD I wasn't taking a friggin' DRINK when I read this...lk70 said:
...you are *SOOOOOOOOOOOOO* toast, Lynnburger!
I can see it all now... who let the dogs out?
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terorizer said:Almost as cheesy as messing up the quotes, eh? 😀AffectionateDan said:...you are *SOOOOOOOOOOOOO* toast, Lynnburger!
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Eh... how cheesy...
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Derrida said:
LOL. The word "Community" was also pretty popular . As a matter of fact. Maybe that should be deleted from the dictionary too.
. Can't we have one with the arm straight out? 
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I think this tickling cult would be wonderful if we can really make it happen. Sounds like a great idea Max! I am so glad it's developing!
MaxSpeer said:
Good idea. A lot of people who are into it are biased I think when they say "Everyone likes tickling." It's hard to imagine people that don't when you yourself love it so much, but I agree with you when I think going mainstream probably won't ever work, no matter how we go about it.
MaxSpeer said:
This is definitely true, and I wouldn't waste one second in jumping at the opportunity to make those feelings happen more often and last longer.
MaxSpeer said:
Even in being short for 'culture' I think we should probably come up with a better euphemism. I really like your use of the word 'family.' Some might think it has a dark connotation, but I don't and it's certainly better than 'cult'.
As to everything else people are saying, I think you can see, especially with our hesitation to want to go mainstream, that although we want members/followers/whatever, we certainly don't want to overwhelm anyone with our ideas or force anyone into something they're not interested in. That said, I don't understand why there are people so vehement on arguing against the whole thing, but then again t here's a lot of things I don't understand.
As for the safety factor, I think since there is a good amount of genuine people interested in seeing how this goes, and seeing how we're really discussing this seriously instead of just jumping into things or piling up ideas without really connecting them, safety will definitely be a subject we take seriously.
All in all, we're really still just discussing the rudiments of this whole thing, and while I hope to see everything pan out, there's a part of me that doubts it ever will.
I still want to hear what everyone has to say, but I don't think there's really much to worry about.
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From time to time we are slammed with a bad enough rep as it is without being labled as a "cult".
Not a good idea to become one.
Not a good idea to become one.
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Yeah, what's wrong with "club" or "society"? Sounds a bit more approachable...
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just a little reality check.........
DISCLAIMER: These are my own thoughts and may not necessarily fully represent those of others who have found an interest in following what we've been discussing here.
Those who know me well know that I've studied various areas of spirituality throughout my life. It's the one thing that interests me more than anything else. Over the years, I've heard of many things that I agree with and many more that I don't. But, the underlying reality is that everyone has their own spiritual path to follow. Many don't even refer to it as spirituality. And that's fine. The point is that all seek a sense of peace, joy and personal fulfillment, whatever terms they choose to use for it. It's the ultimate goal of all mankind.
So, what kinds of things can aid a person in finding a sense of that fulfillment? Pretty much anything. Many people, myself included, find it in nature. Have you ever looked at a beautiful sunset, a gorgeous starlit sky or animals in their natural setting and had a sense of well-being? If so, then nature is one of those ways in which you find a step towards your goal. Does sitting on a moonlit ocean beach listening to the surf pounding the shoreline give you that sense? Then that also may be one of your aids to the goal.
Everyone finds their own path. Most of us travel more than one...sometimes one and then another, other times at the same time. To say that someone else's path is wrong simply because we don't see it as being something that we'd engage in or find beneficial ourselves simply isn't a valid statement. To say that their path isn't for you IS a valid statement. None of us can dictate what others do. Nor should we attempt to do so. Obviously, there are paths that are inherantly destructive...hate groups, etc. But, who gets to define what "destructive" means?
Over the years, there've been many very obvious cases of one person or group of people trying to dictate what others should or should not do or believe. I happen to be a Roman Catholic. So, I'll speak from that one tiny avenue of spirituality rather than trying to pick apart everything that's out there.
I firmly believe that much of what I've been taught is correct and have experienced things that solidify my belief in that. I believe that some of what certain individuals within the Church have taught has been way out of line and nowhere near what Jesus intended. I also firmly believe that the Church has been wrong in many of the ways that they've tried to force feed people what they teach.
The Inquisition is a perfect example of that. How does it honor God to torture people into saying something they don't believe only to kill them after they say it? How does it honor God to demand that every single thing they say must be believed and followed on pain of burning in hell? The answer is simple. It doesn't.
I also happen to be a Secular Franciscan...a lay person following the example of St. Francis of Assisi in his path towards finding unity with God. It's a path that the Church approves and promotes today. But, that wasn't always the case. In his own time, Francis was persecuted by the local church officials because they felt threatened by him and his popularity. Part of that was because of corruption in the Church at the time. But, it was also because he offered a path that they felt was dangerous...even though it in no way contradicted what they themselves taught...even though it very closely followed what Jesus taught. Less than 20 years later, he was canonized and honored as a saint by the same Church. Times sure change!
These are only two of the many examples of the Catholic Church and her mistakes over the years. Other faiths have done similar things. What it all comes down to is that everyone thinks that they've found the ideal way to live/believe. Perhaps they HAVE found the ideal....for THEM. It may not be the ideal for everyone and most likely isn't. None of us has the right to dictate what others believe.
We already know that there are several views towards tickling among members here. Some of us see it purely as fun, some purely as a sexual outlet and some a combination of the two. Even the type, location and target of tickling gets debated. We've seen the conflict that this can cause when one group attempts to dictate that all must see things according to their own personal vision. That just doesn't work...no matter what the context.
All this having been stated, I'll move on to the topic at hand. There are some among us who are interested in following a path that we've discovered to be beneficial for us. That path, in this case, involves tickling. We aren't talking about an orgy. We don't seek to "recruit" anyone. Nor do we seek to convince everyone that our path is THE path to fulfillment. We simply seek to follow the path we've discovered as it pans out before us. We post our thoughts here on occassion, as we do on other TK-related topics, simply to share something of what we've found and who we are.
This entire idea is still in its infancy stage...well, maybe toddler stage now that we're actively discussing it. Like any infant, it will grow, mature and be defined over time. And, it will need lots of care, guidence and occassional correction to become what it is meant to be. If someone sees what we're talking about and feels drawn to follow it, so be it. Frankly, I suspect that most won't. And ya know what? That's perfectly fine with us. All we ask is that others respect the intent of what we're trying to do and not be putting words into our mouths or throwing out rediculous accusations about the intents of people they don't even know. If anyone else does join us, rest assured they'll be following what we're really about and not someone else's fears of what we're about.
My hope for everyone here is that they have the strength and courage to follow the path(s) on which they will find the most peace, joy and fulfillment...whatever those paths may be for each individual.
Ann
DISCLAIMER: These are my own thoughts and may not necessarily fully represent those of others who have found an interest in following what we've been discussing here.
Those who know me well know that I've studied various areas of spirituality throughout my life. It's the one thing that interests me more than anything else. Over the years, I've heard of many things that I agree with and many more that I don't. But, the underlying reality is that everyone has their own spiritual path to follow. Many don't even refer to it as spirituality. And that's fine. The point is that all seek a sense of peace, joy and personal fulfillment, whatever terms they choose to use for it. It's the ultimate goal of all mankind.
So, what kinds of things can aid a person in finding a sense of that fulfillment? Pretty much anything. Many people, myself included, find it in nature. Have you ever looked at a beautiful sunset, a gorgeous starlit sky or animals in their natural setting and had a sense of well-being? If so, then nature is one of those ways in which you find a step towards your goal. Does sitting on a moonlit ocean beach listening to the surf pounding the shoreline give you that sense? Then that also may be one of your aids to the goal.
Everyone finds their own path. Most of us travel more than one...sometimes one and then another, other times at the same time. To say that someone else's path is wrong simply because we don't see it as being something that we'd engage in or find beneficial ourselves simply isn't a valid statement. To say that their path isn't for you IS a valid statement. None of us can dictate what others do. Nor should we attempt to do so. Obviously, there are paths that are inherantly destructive...hate groups, etc. But, who gets to define what "destructive" means?
Over the years, there've been many very obvious cases of one person or group of people trying to dictate what others should or should not do or believe. I happen to be a Roman Catholic. So, I'll speak from that one tiny avenue of spirituality rather than trying to pick apart everything that's out there.
I firmly believe that much of what I've been taught is correct and have experienced things that solidify my belief in that. I believe that some of what certain individuals within the Church have taught has been way out of line and nowhere near what Jesus intended. I also firmly believe that the Church has been wrong in many of the ways that they've tried to force feed people what they teach.
The Inquisition is a perfect example of that. How does it honor God to torture people into saying something they don't believe only to kill them after they say it? How does it honor God to demand that every single thing they say must be believed and followed on pain of burning in hell? The answer is simple. It doesn't.
I also happen to be a Secular Franciscan...a lay person following the example of St. Francis of Assisi in his path towards finding unity with God. It's a path that the Church approves and promotes today. But, that wasn't always the case. In his own time, Francis was persecuted by the local church officials because they felt threatened by him and his popularity. Part of that was because of corruption in the Church at the time. But, it was also because he offered a path that they felt was dangerous...even though it in no way contradicted what they themselves taught...even though it very closely followed what Jesus taught. Less than 20 years later, he was canonized and honored as a saint by the same Church. Times sure change!
These are only two of the many examples of the Catholic Church and her mistakes over the years. Other faiths have done similar things. What it all comes down to is that everyone thinks that they've found the ideal way to live/believe. Perhaps they HAVE found the ideal....for THEM. It may not be the ideal for everyone and most likely isn't. None of us has the right to dictate what others believe.
We already know that there are several views towards tickling among members here. Some of us see it purely as fun, some purely as a sexual outlet and some a combination of the two. Even the type, location and target of tickling gets debated. We've seen the conflict that this can cause when one group attempts to dictate that all must see things according to their own personal vision. That just doesn't work...no matter what the context.
All this having been stated, I'll move on to the topic at hand. There are some among us who are interested in following a path that we've discovered to be beneficial for us. That path, in this case, involves tickling. We aren't talking about an orgy. We don't seek to "recruit" anyone. Nor do we seek to convince everyone that our path is THE path to fulfillment. We simply seek to follow the path we've discovered as it pans out before us. We post our thoughts here on occassion, as we do on other TK-related topics, simply to share something of what we've found and who we are.
This entire idea is still in its infancy stage...well, maybe toddler stage now that we're actively discussing it. Like any infant, it will grow, mature and be defined over time. And, it will need lots of care, guidence and occassional correction to become what it is meant to be. If someone sees what we're talking about and feels drawn to follow it, so be it. Frankly, I suspect that most won't. And ya know what? That's perfectly fine with us. All we ask is that others respect the intent of what we're trying to do and not be putting words into our mouths or throwing out rediculous accusations about the intents of people they don't even know. If anyone else does join us, rest assured they'll be following what we're really about and not someone else's fears of what we're about.
My hope for everyone here is that they have the strength and courage to follow the path(s) on which they will find the most peace, joy and fulfillment...whatever those paths may be for each individual.
Ann
what the $@!*
Is this a joke that got horribly out of hand? Do u really see tickling as a spiritual thing or are u just trying to take a fetish to an extreme measure?
I don't mean to seem rude but this sounds like charley manson is into tickling. I think it's a great idea to find and interact with like minded people but the idea of ranks and punishment sounds more like a power trip. I'm certainly not going to tell u what u should do but I will simply suggest that maybe you would get more members and get taken more seriously if u made a friendly club to chat and have fun with rather then a cult. 😀
Is this a joke that got horribly out of hand? Do u really see tickling as a spiritual thing or are u just trying to take a fetish to an extreme measure?
I don't mean to seem rude but this sounds like charley manson is into tickling. I think it's a great idea to find and interact with like minded people but the idea of ranks and punishment sounds more like a power trip. I'm certainly not going to tell u what u should do but I will simply suggest that maybe you would get more members and get taken more seriously if u made a friendly club to chat and have fun with rather then a cult. 😀
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Hmmm seems Groucho once said that any club that would have me as a member is not worth it.
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No. It is not a joke. Though many have taken it totally out of context.911 said:
Yes. It can be a spiritual thing...and IS one for some people. See this thread for a bit more on that aspect of things. And just to clarify again, not everyone here sees tickling as a fetish. And, not all of those who do see it ONLY as that.911 said:
LOL I'll let Jeff respond to that if he wants to since that part is his brainchild.911 said:
We aren't concerned about having a huge membership. The idea is simply out there for those who DO see tickling as we do to discuss things. If we end up forming some sort of community, those would be the people who would be possibilities to include.911 said:
Ann
