ticklish teenagers and older adults

[BlackmoonDoll]

Do you think its wrong for older Adults (say 20+ something range) to be tickling younger teenagers (say 16+ something range)

This thread that i'm making has no real meaning to it. Nothing specific. Its just something that i'm wondering about and what your guys feelings towards it are!


so weigh in on the matter 😀

 

[TklDuo-Ann]

If you're speaking of something of a purely playful nature, no problem at all. It's when it crosses the line into more sexual persuits that problems arise...legally speaking.

Ann

 

[TickledToDeath]

Very gray area here.

If in a "playful" atmosphere or nature.....I don't see a problem HOWever, it cannot get sexual at all in any way BUT, if you are including someone OVER 18 tying someone UNDER 18 for tickle play be it light or intense, that I feel would probably be inappropriate even if there is another or group of teens tying and tickling another teen and you are just in the neighborhood so to speak and are asked to join in, therein is still a very gray area and again would more than likely be inappropriate. Same would go if someone was over 18 and tied and being tickled buy others over 18 and a teen or teens happend by and wanted to join the ticklers getting that person......again one would be abeit in a very ticklish situation, in a possible inappropriate situation although having no real control OVER said situation.
One would have to ask, where does the playful side end and the OTHER side begin where it becomes "wrong" or inappropriate?

Clear to some.......foggy to others.

TTD

 

[nenezinho]

You americans are getting paranoid with those things, and unfortunately, many other are following!

When I was 18, 19, 20, till 22....it was pretty usual for me to go out with girls younger than 18, its normal! Guys usually go out with girls a few years younger. So if the guy is not like....30 and the gir 15.....don´t see any problem!

Of course legaly, the guy will be responsible for what he does while the girl will not. This is some times, a bigger trap to us boys than to the girls.

Of course many girls with 15, 16 and 17 years are not grown up enough to choose wisely if they are safe with an older guy. But then again....there are as many above 18 wich are even less grown up.

My point is, we must watch for the young ones. But please! Don´t place them under such strict rulles and descriminations. Remember that sometimes the forbidden fruit tends to be the most wanted so you might end up with guys wanting to play with young girls just for the thrill of being braking the law.

By the way, I´m 24 right now, I have a girl cousin with 15 and sometimes I go out with her and some of her girl friends. They are of course too young for me in a serious way, but I would be lying if saying we never get playful lol Of course there´s some tickling when possible, they all like the idea of teasing an older guy lol it´s life! they feel safe, they get playful, I get tickled and tickle them 😛

My best female friend is 18 today, and of course....she was under 18 just the last year. She has a 24 years boyfriend and he and I, together with some female friends of her, get to tickle the hell out of that girl some times 🙂 she is a great lee!!! 😉

So now tell me there´s anything wrong about this kind of situations!

 

[tklr5150]

Even though this thread will quite possibly get yanked, I figure I'd offer two cents. While I understand the reason for the laws regarding sexual adulthood in most states, I don't think any relationship between someone over 18 and someone under 18 is necessarily immoral. The difference between a 21 year old with a 17 year old, and a 40 year old with a 15 year old, is pretty significant. I believe many states have laws which state sexual activity between consenting parties is legal if one is under 18 if the two are within 5 years of each other (i.e, a 22 yo guy and a 17 yo girl would not be breaking the law). I could be mistaken about the specific parameters there though.

I'm 23, and I'm not gonna lie - a lot of 17 year old girls are hot. They don't only get hot when the hit their 18th birthday. I'm not gonna act on it, but I'm not gonna feel immoral for believing it either.

 

[Armpit_licker]

nenezinho, do you find anything wrong with you(a 24 year old adult) tickling a 15 year old girl(still a kid/teen) and getting turned on by it??

I'm asking this because tickling for us is a fetish, which means it is a turn on... Am I wrong here?? So when you tickle your cousins friends I'm guessing it is a turn on........

Touchy confusing subject...

 

[Mitchell]

It depends on the circumstance involved. Obviously, an 18 year old guy who might be a senior in high school tickling say his 15, 16, or 17 year old girlfriend who might be a freshman, sophmore or junior is gonna happen. They dont look at ID's and say to someone over 18:" You cant tickle that underage person" Be that as it may, each circumstance is different. Nor is playful family tickling wrong as long as it is not sexual in nature, like a parent tickling their child, or an age of majority brother or sister tickling a younger sibling, again, if it is playful. Any adult tickling a younger person needs to understand the nature of the tickling, unless it of course is a boyfriend tickling his girlfriend or vice versa. Be that as it may, except in the case of playful tickling with my own kids if that ever happened (in a non sexual way of course) I think someone who is my age (Almost 35) that tickles a minor is completely wrong. I would want someone over 18 (at least) because any girl I meet for a friendship or relationship, the tickling will be with a person who I have sexual feelings for, whether or not the tickling itself is sexual in nature, and at my age having sexual feelings for someone under 18 is neither legally nor in my opinion morally right.
Again, each situation is different, but to exercise discretion is the key thing. Most of us who are rational and understand the nature of our feelings will want to express our emotions accordingly, and to act as such appropriately, with a person of appropriate age and such.

Mitch

 

[natural tickler]

It is a touchy subject, and a gray area, but however its all about intent. If it is not in a sexual manner, then by all means go for it, and tickle away. Just remember there is a thin line, and don't cross it. I tickle my young nieces all the time, and I am extra careful to make sure its in a playful manner😀

 

[nenezinho]

nenezinho, do you find anything wrong with you(a 24 year old adult) tickling a 15 year old girl(still a kid/teen) and getting turned on by it??

This is only a confusing thing while you´re groing up and being self counscious of your sexuality, learning how to control it and deal with it. I must recon that many people never really achieve any of these things in any stage of their lifes....i feel sory and understand the problem.

No about myself and my cousin....Armpit licker....I´m going to really trouble you know being completely legal! lol Do you want to see how???

Well, actually I got turned on by my cousin when I was under 18, maybe with 14, 15...maybe even with 16 years old. I was learning what sex was and discovering girls and I also found out that tickling was clearly a big fetish of mine. I associated tickling to sex pretty fast and soon. Being still a child I was unable to understand many of those things and has I has allways tickled my little cousin I saw no reason to stop it at first. Of course when I started to get turned on with it I understood something wasn´t right and many reflections were needed. All this happened during a perior of 2 or 3 years which I believe it´s quite normal and comon as a child groing up to adult.

Hopefully, I grew up! And somewhere bettween 16 and 17 I started to understand many of those feellings better, started to form clearly in mi mind what were my feellings for my cousin as well as for many other perssons around me. Today, my cousin is more like a little sister, actually we share a very strong bond almost like real brothers and that explains you why she asks me to take her with friends. I´m pretty much her confident, her big bro who helps her with boys and at school, the one who she asks if she can take a mini-skirt to a party....you get the picture 🙂

You will of course understand and believe that no one arround here will get turned on while tickling their little brothers or sisters or even kids.....well...there might be some people out there but those are seriously needing counceling or some other help.

So it all goes around relations, feellings, to clearly understand what´s our stance towards a girl. You see...I talked about my best female friend, you must remeber she has a boyfriend and yet I tickle her several times. Do you think I get turned on??? or she??? lol We´d be getting ourselves in serious trouble cause many times her boyfriend is right there with us.

Sory for the long post, I recon this might be leading us to another different discussion, but a really important one. This is probably something that is good to clarify here at the TMF for young members to think about. So any other experienced opinion would be welcomed 🙂

to bad I can´t write this in portuguese to you lol some times I get this problem.....I´m a pretty good writer in portuguese and I tend to think in elaborate sentences....sometimes it´s hard to bring my english to that point 😉

 

[Oddjob0226]

Nothing wrong with it. It's not how it makes you feel, after all, it's wether or not you allow yourself to be taken into an innapropriate situation.

I mean really, if it WAS sexual, but you kept it to yourself, isn't that like a tree falling in a forest and no people are aroung to see it because the bears ate them all?

 

[BlackmoonDoll]

I will agree with tklr5150 that i also to find some younger teen age girls to be very hot and cute. Other wise i would be flat out lieing to myself if i said that i didn't one bit.

But i agree with most everybody here that voiced thier opinions on this touchy matter. That thier is a thin line that can't be crossed when it comes to tickling a teenage guy or girl that is NOT 18 years of age or older yet. And some gross people out there in this world would say its ok to tickle young girls and guys in a sexual way and get turned on by it. Go ahead with it no harm done after all it is only tickling. I don't agree with that one bit! its wrong and sick to get turned on in a sexual way when your tickling a younger girl or guy when your over the age of 18 years old. I would never do such a thing like that.

But granted though it is kinda hard to tell what girls are 18 years old or older then 18 theses days. Because so many girls now a days like clothes that show of thier skin and body parts (Not that i mind 😀 though ) to look good and to comfortable and to also show off for the guys that may be happening to stare and look. So one girl that you maybe looking and staring at and think is really cute and pretty you may think see her as 18 or older. But it may turn out that she may be only 16 or 17 years of age.

So that becomes tricky to for us guys at times in can be. Kinda hard to tell with some girls today wanting to act all older and mature

 

[tklr5150]

I don't think it's "wrong" to be turned on by tickling or looking at a physically developed girl who may be 16 or 17 years old. The law is in place, rightly so, to prevent the social and psychological damage resulting from adults acting on that arousal and taking advantage of younger, more naive, less mature minors. But sexual attraction doesn't start on the 18th birthday. That age is a pretty arbitrary number dictated by American legal dogma as the age of adulthood, and has no impact on the biology that makes a person attractive or attracted.

 

[brnbch]

I have to agree with tklr5150.
As much as we 30 something males like to deny our sexual attraction to young (mid teen) girls it's there and it's not going away. It's rooted deep, (I believe) in our primitive self. Our "lizard brain" if you will. Our natural primordial urges to mate with a young, healthy, vibrant subject of the opposite sex is second only to gathering sustenance and avoiding danger in order to further the species.
The "Lolita" taboo is more a social sexual mores that differs from culture to culture, than a universal obscenity like pedophilia. I think these two get confused.
I think a good way to illustrate this is if you find a 15 or 16 yr old girl that is made up like or is as precociously developed as a 18 or 19 yr old woman sexually attractive, that's a "Lolita" urge. But if you find a 15 or 16 yr old girl that looks her age or younger sexually attractive, then you may have pedaphilian urges.
Now the vexation is of course "what does a 15 or 16 yr old supposed to look like? Is it OK to lust if she's sexually developed? Some mid teens look like a children and some have the bodies of 22 yr olds. Nature would dictate that a adolescent girl is sexually developed (therefore lust worthy) when she starts menstruation and consequently is of the age of procreation.
The rub here is that even the Lolitas with fully developed bodies and uterus' are still emotionally and psychologically underdeveloped and by our culture and laws need be protected. This is compounded by the combination of the cultural phenomenon I call the "Britney or Christina syndrome" and pubescent stages starting earlier and earlier mixed with the average intellectual maturation level in decline means that as young girls look older, do to their bodies developing earlier (and permissive parents letting them dress older and wear make-up earlier) are actually more and more immature for their age. It just seams now days a 16 yr old may have the body of a 22 yr old but the mind of a 13 yr old.
But the issue of lusting after or tickling or otherwise fooling around with teen age girls largely depends on the local customs and ethical standards of the culture in which you live and is far more complicated then just deemed "immoral" or "gross"

 

[Ticklish_Cop]

Here's my take on it. If you would be comfortable tickling a teenager in front of their parents and other adults, then it's okay. If you wouldn't be comfortable doing that, then you probably shouldn't be tickling him/her at all.

 

[BlackmoonDoll]

Here's my take on it. If you would be comfortable tickling a teenager in front of their parents and other adults, then it's okay. If you wouldn't be comfortable doing that, then you probably shouldn't be tickling him/her at all.

Good point. simple. But still a good point none the less

 

[MaxSpeer]

Gotta weigh in here because it is always a topic that amuses me. Here it is in a word: Relax!

The only reason that they don't allow stories and such about under 18 is that our stories and such are fetishistic in nature. It is a law. That aside, this isn't going to get cut because this is a discussion about morals, laws and not meant to turn anyone on.

That said. I am constantly astounded by references to the age "mason-dixon" line. Does an underage superstar dress the way she does because it's fashionable? No, she wants to flaunt her natural sexual appeal. Its Nature, folks. Is it appropriate for an "older" adult (hysterical laughter) to tickle a girl under 18? The law states (in SOME states - it's lower in others) that you cannot have sexual contact with a girl under 18 if you are over 18. It does not say it is illegal or immoral to hang out with or even date. The law is very clear about the fact that sex with a minor is considered statutory rape. But it means sex, not getting turned on. There is no vice squad posted in the pants of every man and woman, just WAITING to see whether they get turned on by seeing a younger girl. If that was true, the prisons would be filled so much that there would be no one left to moderate ridiculous threads like this one. Once again - RELAX.

"Older" people get turned on by girls under the "legal" age of 18. IT'S NOT A FREAKIN CRIME! It's a law that you just can't do anythinbg about it.

Now, if you are using a younger girl for tickling just so you could get off, then you got to face your own moral values. It becomes a crime of conscience.

I hug and kiss my young daughter and it is like a father and daughter. It's not illegal. As soon as society starts to look at a beautiful thing like that as immoral, then what you have is a failed, sick society. I have tickled my kids with absolutely no sexual reaction. Why? Because it's like hugging and kissing them. My brain knows the difference between a lover and a family member.

I blame a lot of things on threads like this: very young posters (and the people who don't recognize this and bother to respond), this new, politically enforced pseudo-moralistic value system, religion, fear, neurosis.

Dude, (and anyone else who even entertained this poster's fears), relax. If you are inappropriately (sexually) touching a girl under 18, you have the law to deal with. If you are simply tickling her (no matter whether it turns you on or not), you have your own conscience to deal with.

Okay, I'm getting breakfast now. Thanks for listening.

Max

 

[BlackmoonDoll]

i will fill you in

For the last two Posters MaxSpeer and Fsfingers.

Use your brain and do the math. I was born on Movember,30th 1983

add it up and then you will find your answer 😀


also go look in the general discussion section. and look for the thread that was posted by me about my birthday!! i posted it a few days ago