Todays music angers me

[jerry6061]

I'm not saying this to be racist because I dislike eminem as much as I do most other rappers but it's getting ridiculous the crap they are comming out with these days. For the most part I don't listen to anything past 1990 but some bands are ok in my mind (modest mouse, sam roberts) but the hip hop and rap and country genres lack in the very fabric that makes for good music. They are for one repetitive, both in lyrics and topics of songs (rap being about ones nines and gangsters, country about losing ones loved one). Correct me if I'm wrong but hip hop has come down a long brown road from it's once great soul and funk of the 70's. All we seem to make now for music is by fabricated bands and brothers from the hood who couldn't play an instrument if their lives depended on it. Instead they rip classics and turn them into crap (other than he got game that was a sweet song and any classified song(maritime writer)) Your opinions and critisms are appreciated.

 

[Wade1]

I guess my impression is that the gulf between what's good and what's popular is so wide, and has been for so long, and that applies to all popular music genres including rock, pop, country and hip-hop. (The audiences for jazz and classical have dwindled so much that the same can't be said only because the term "popular" doesn't apply to those genres' "hits" in the same way.) In other words: for the most part, the stuff that's popular and on the radio in rock and pop is just as lame as its equivalents in country and hip-hop.

It's my impression that the gulf between what's good and what's popular was not as vast decades ago, though even in the sixties and the seventies you still had bands like the Velvet Underground and Big Star that would be more influential than they were commercially successful.

There's still plenty of good music being made nowadays, by the likes of Alison Krauss, Nickel Creek, Lucinda Williams and Gillian Welch in country and Spank Rock, Mos Def, the Roots and Talib Kweli in hip-hop. There's even some stuff that's both commercially AND musically viable, like Jay-Z and Kanye West and the Dixie Chicks.

For an example of how solid some of the hip-hop being made today is, check out the performances in Dave Chappelle's Block Party movie.

 

[GaryGoafer]

My opinion of Hip-Hop is that when its done well, its done VERY well, there are certain rappers whom I consider among the greatest modern musicians. However, its so easy to get it wrong, and opt for over-emphasizing the 'gangsta' lifestyle and using that to sell, rather than releasing anything meaningful. Yes, that means YOU, 50 Cent.

Personally, what I regard as the greatest threat to music is what I have christened 'commercial wuss-rock'. Bands such as Coldplay, Keane and singers such as James Blunt releasing acoustic rubbish that sounds exactly the same, whilst the music press and trendy kids eat it up like manna from heaven.

 

[OldSchoolTicklr]

my only comment:

Music (1800 - 1990 R.I.P.)

 

[Wade1]

Music (1800 - 1990 R.I.P.)

What about, like, Bach and Mozart? And Nirvana?

 

[FT Genikit]

I'm not into rap or hip-hop, but I have been noticing that things are becoming more rediculous than before.

 

[Beaunanza]

I don't understand people that say music is dead. I'm constantly hearing new things...good things. You just have to know where to look. You certainly won't find much of it on the radio. Its getting more difficult to classify music nowadays. Look around, you'll find something you like.

As far as hip hop goes, I really don't care for "rap" either, although I will get into a good DJ once in a while. Cut Chemist and DJ Krush come to mind.

Wade mentioned a few modern groups that I also like. I've been to Bonnaroo the last three years and I always find new bands there, many of which I really enjoy. Yeah the problem with good music in this day and age is you have to find it. Its not going to come to you. Damn radio.

 

[Journia]

Hmmm...Yes. much of what is released is rubbish nowadays in the rap and hip-hop community. People like tupac, and coolio, are no longer doing that which they would have done well. Coolio, I say, because he does carry a good message in a number of his songs, and tupac...well....we have heard of him already.

But it isn't the fault of the communities of trendy folk. They are mostly sniveling little dolts. In fact, most people are sniveling little dolts if you think about it. But there are a few who are able to make a difference in what they intend to pursue, sadly, it is up to the media producers, who will allow others to rise to the heights of fame, while making a difference at the same instance. What I am getting at is this. It is the producers, not the people who make the music who are to blame. The producers select the people according to the trends of the day. If the trends were not followed, would they make any money? Like most things that exist for great periods of time, rap music and hip hop music has been manipulated into a tool by which to control the masses, as if it wasn't so already. In fact, it ha become even more so. Of course, I can't help but wonder, if it is this music, which has caused a lot of females to start shoeplaying again...I mean, since these people have started making their dumb donkey music, it has really increased.
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Or is that becoming trendy too?

Think on what I said of music.

 

[Budweiserbob!]

Word yo'! ^_^

... ok, Chav does not suit me! XD

 

[Nerobob1]

Muse and Radiohead, two modern bands, that in my opinion are absolutely amazing.

As for hip-hop or rap, to each their own. This is 100% subjectivity, and to claim that music has gone downhill because a genre you don't particularly like is popular is frankly ridiculous. If it offends your ears, listen to a different radio station, don't turn on your T.V etc.

 

[jerry6061]

My opinion of Hip-Hop is that when its done well, its done VERY well, there are certain rappers whom I consider among the greatest modern musicians. However, its so easy to get it wrong, and opt for over-emphasizing the 'gangsta' lifestyle and using that to sell, rather than releasing anything meaningful. Yes, that means YOU, 50 Cent.

Personally, what I regard as the greatest threat to music is what I have christened 'commercial wuss-rock'. Bands such as Coldplay, Keane and singers such as James Blunt releasing acoustic rubbish that sounds exactly the same, whilst the music press and trendy kids eat it up like manna from heaven.

i agree, i hate all of those bands, including 50 cent. A girl I know went to one of his concerts and flashed her boobs at him. I couldn't believe it, but i guess she is kind of slutty

 

[jerry6061]

I don't understand people that say music is dead. I'm constantly hearing new things...good things. You just have to know where to look. You certainly won't find much of it on the radio. Its getting more difficult to classify music nowadays. Look around, you'll find something you like.

As far as hip hop goes, I really don't care for "rap" either, although I will get into a good DJ once in a while. Cut Chemist and DJ Krush come to mind.

Wade mentioned a few modern groups that I also like. I've been to Bonnaroo the last three years and I always find new bands there, many of which I really enjoy. Yeah the problem with good music in this day and age is you have to find it. Its not going to come to you. Damn radio.

I'm not saying it's dead, I'm saying it's getting worse. I agree that good bands still exist, but they aren't very easy to find

 

[jerry6061]

Muse and Radiohead, two modern bands, that in my opinion are absolutely amazing.

As for hip-hop or rap, to each their own. This is 100% subjectivity, and to claim that music has gone downhill because a genre you don't particularly like is popular is frankly ridiculous. If it offends your ears, listen to a different radio station, don't turn on your T.V etc.

my main message was that music is going down hill, and the fact that you would take time out of your so very busy schedule to tell me that I should change the station is a waste of your time since where I live right now there is no station I listen to. I just download from the net and listen to what I want...Your imput wasn't needed but is still appreciated

 

[DarthGrinn]

I guess my impression is that the gulf between what's good and what's popular is so wide, and has been for so long, and that applies to all popular music genres including rock, pop, country and hip-hop...

I think you nailed the hit on the head Wade.

The thing is, if you are gong to rely on MTV to inform you of what is good these days; you are setting yourself up for a lot of disappointment. Most of what's good doesn't even make it to the top-10 charts, and shows like TRL and the like only serve to popularize music that is made by current icons and trend-setters; as opposed to good musicians/artists. Now, granted, some of these icons and trend-setters are good musicians, but a lot of them aren't...

As a big fan of hip-hop, I've learned early on not to rely on MTV to show me the good stuff. I've had to do some digging of my own, browsing online, word of mouth, and sites like pandora (that offer streaming music from random artists) to give me a taste of what's really out there, in terms of actual talent.

Give me Immortal Technique over Puff Daddy any day...

What I'm more interested these days are international rap artists. I think American rappers have pretty much run out of things to say; unless they are social/political commentary. But to hear the stories of rappers from other cultures is interesting; even if I can't understand the language. For those who understand Arabic, check out Dam (http://www.dampalestine.com/main.html) for some heavy Arabic poetry to hip-hop beats.

Youtube also offers a way to see new indie/unsigned artists that are pretty darn good. Arists like Andy Mckee and Antoine Dufour, go check em out before you decide that music is dead 😉

EDIT: Some linkage 🙂

Antoine Dufour preforming Spiritual Groove:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNw9YaXemlM&mode=related&search=

Andy Mckee preforming The Friend I never Met:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f27megLOleQ

Music isn't really going down-hill; its the people behind media companies like TRL and such that need to be fired and replaced 😛

 

[the_jimmy_james]

Rock and Roll is the only true music.

 

[DarthGrinn]

I'd beg to differ and say that Jazz is the only true music 😉 but that would be pointless since they are all related, and have the same roots.

To copypaste from wikipedia:

Rock and roll began to emerge as a defined musical style in America in the late 1940s as a part of African American culture, when it was called Rhythm and blues, or R&B. Though elements of rock and roll can be heard in blues records as far back as the 1920s it did not acquire its eventual name until the 1950s. An early form of rock and roll was rockabilly, which combined elements of blues, boogie woogie, and jazz with influences from traditional Appalachian folk music, gospel, and country and western. Going back even further, rock and roll can trace one lineage to the old Five Points district of mid-19th century New York City, the scene of the first fusion of heavily rhythmic African shuffles and sand dances with melody-driven European genres, particularly the Irish jig.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_roll)

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Generally, I don't like "angry music". That means different things to different people, but for me it means anything which disturbs my peace, gets me out of the flow of the song, or something that may give me a headache if I listen for it for too long. Its generally where the singers are screaming to the top of their lungs rather than singing.

I also don't like "loud music". For me, this is where its intentional when the music blares so loud that you can barely hear the singer, or their voice is muffled.

Actually, for me, its more about how people play their music, rather than what they play. If theres some guy in a car next to mine, its irritating to feel and hear the vibrations from his bass set. One time it was so strong I couldn't hear my passenger talking to me. I could have sworn it also made my teeth rattle. Thats how it felt. I was only next to this guy for a moment at the red light, and by the time it turned green, I had a ringing in my ears for a few minutes.

So, yeah, I think its HOW people play their music that makes it irritating, stupid, or whatever, long before you even examine the music itself.

I guess my point is, any type of music can be irritating if its excessive or played in such a way that its obnoxious. This is all common sense though, that, hopefully, any person could agree with.

 

[jerry6061]

i'm sorry for starting this, everyone has their own opinion on good music, it's what makes you feel good and as i've always said "different strokes for different folks". All music has it's own aura and feel, and i guess if we like music we have to respect all other music accept for of course the fabricated stuff like american idol because that kind of ruined music in general (apologies to american idol fans, but seriously)

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

and i guess if we like music we have to respect all other music accept for of course the fabricated stuff like american idol because that kind of ruined music in general (apologies to american idol fans, but seriously)

But it brought along Simon Cowell with it. That is a good thing. I like the way he rips into and critiques them. 😀

 

[Nerobob1]

my main message was that music is going down hill, and the fact that you would take time out of your so very busy schedule to tell me that I should change the station is a waste of your time since where I live right now there is no station I listen to. I just download from the net and listen to what I want...Your imput wasn't needed but is still appreciated

My schedule isn't busy, anything but.😀

My main message is that music cannot, by it's definition, go downhill.

If you only download what you want, I fail to see the problem here.

 

[IrishTickle1]

My schedule isn't busy, anything but.😀

My main message is that music cannot, by it's definition, go downhill.

If you only download what you want, I fail to see the problem here.

I have to agree with this. I seem to be one of a dying breed that enjoys music for what it is. I don't like musicians, I like songs. Some artists can have amazing songs and shite songs on the same album. There's no reason why anyone should like a song, simply because it's from a certain artist.

But the sad thing is, most of the talented artists really are being left to the side because of shows like American Idol, which just wants to sell albums and don't really care about talent. That's why music is suffering, because those with talent, aren't seen as profitable and so get no publicity.

 

[morgandee]

isnt todays music supposed to anger you anyway

i mean with all the nu-metal shit to rock some suburbs with

i'm pissed off but i'm too polite

 

[IrishTickle1]

i mean with all the nu-metal shit to rock some suburbs with

Nu-metal is scientifically proven to not actually be music. Harvard and MIT have clearly stated it's just shite!

i'm pissed off but i'm too polite

Ben Folds, however, will live forever! 😀

 

[DarthGrinn]

I couldn't agree with ya more Vlad.

I too hate guys who have their bass turned up too high. You were sitting in another car, now imagine being in that very same car that had the music blasting! I used to have friends who loved to show off their sound systems; it's quite disturbing to be in a car, where the seats are literally vibrating from the bass lol.

To me, there's nothing like having a high-quality sound-system; but turning it down so the music playing is barely audible; it has a very luxurious feel to it. Having music blasting is fun too, when you're with a group of guys and ur just goofing about; but my ears can only take but so much abuse before they *pop*

Let me post something an artist on youtube sent me. Now personally I liked the song, the chorus particularly made me laugh and I could relate to the lyrics. I gave this to a friend and he told me the dude sucked 😛

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV2SdBITv8k

I tend to get a kick out of songs that make it apparent that the artist put his or her heart into it; or songs that sound a little "rough around the edges" y'know?

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

I couldn't agree with ya more Vlad.

I too hate guys who have their bass turned up too high. You were sitting in another car, now imagine being in that very same car that had the music blasting! I used to have friends who loved to show off their sound systems; it's quite disturbing to be in a car, where the seats are literally vibrating from the bass lol.

To me, there's nothing like having a high-quality sound-system; but turning it down so the music playing is barely audible; it has a very luxurious feel to it. Having music blasting is fun too, when you're with a group of guys and ur just goofing about; but my ears can only take but so much abuse before they *pop*

Let me post something an artist on youtube sent me. Now personally I liked the song, the chorus particularly made me laugh and I could relate to the lyrics. I gave this to a friend and he told me the dude sucked 😛

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV2SdBITv8k

I tend to get a kick out of songs that make it apparent that the artist put his or her heart into it; or songs that sound a little "rough around the edges" y'know?

Yeah, tell me about it. The guy is fast on his way to becoming deaf or hard of hearing.

When they're driving down the street like that, it begs to wonder if they're trying to impress people, because it certain looks like they're trying way too hard to stand out. Its idiotic, really.

As far as that song you shared, I thought it was pretty good too. There were some pitch problems here and there, but he was otherwise good and the flow and beat was easy to get into. The song actually kind of relaxing, definitely better than 90% of the garbage I hear on the streets and in passing cars.