Melissa666 said:
Now thats interesting goodieluver. You are teaching me something now. You mean in Japan and in Mexico theres no Doink the Clowns or Undertakers? Also I agree with that Heenan guy that its lost whatever magic it had. These wrestlers today have reality shows on how they do the moves they do (I think it was called Tough Enough). I guess its all in the pursuit of making money. I hear theyre suffering for their crap now though because they did all that "this is how we do it" stuff a few years back and now WWF ratings are low and not a lot of people go see them when they perform without cameras like here in the arena where the Suns play it was half empty a friend told me. I guess that McMahon guy substituted short term gain for long term growth. I thought he was supposed to be this genius at making money though? I guess he was just riding a fad.
There are ofcourse the gimmick wrestlers, esp in mexico, in japan its not as blatant(keiji muto wrestles as himself and the great muta and terrifies me) Actually mcmahon stole the undertaker gimmick from Japan with Jinsei Shinzaki, known in america as hakushi. He dressed in all white(the japanese color of death) walked to the ring slowly in a white robe\hat monk like outfit and did what 'taker did which when he grabs the guys arm and walks the rope, only Jinsei would start at one corner and walk the entire ring rope back to start.
But japan takes it as a serious "Sport" so to speak, and it had as best i can describe as a ECW fan mentality but more mild mannered. Fans sat, fans WATCHED the match, there are no idiots tryin to be on tv and have a sign, they dont run to the guardrail tryin to touch them. They sit and watch and applaud ferociously when something amazing happens. My only problem i ever had with ecw was the "you fucked up" chants, wrestlers are performing best they can and one mess up gets that.
Lucha is like religion in mexico, i dont know now but back in the day, the wrestlers wore their masks at all times in the public, and it was not uncommon for them to be on tv shows\movies and be wearing the masks
I am disgusted with that reality show, no talent garbage get pretty much a free shot,and its the typical....6"4, muscled, good face, etc etc. My friend and i spent several years at 2 wrestlin organizations in the midwest and all we got was wasted time and he got sued by em.
Mcmahon doesnt have ECW to steal idea's from now, now he's forced to try to do somethin origional and cant.
