Update on the girlfriend situation.

[kis123]

Girl seems crazy. I don't know how long you guys were seeing each other, but if my boyfriend said he wanted to sleep in separate bedrooms, I'd be fucking pissed too.

And you'd have every right to be pissed, unless you were two-timing him; then "you'd" deserve whatever you got IMO.

Between the depression after the sex and telling her to sleep in a separate room, you are good at listening to that voice in your head and following its instructions. Had you not stood your ground, you would've never learned she was cheating and she would've had you both strung out.

I knew when you first posted this story I knew she was cheating, but I didn't want to pour salt in an open wound. That's why I referred to him as the "alleged" ex boyfriend. Why would this silly girl give this man your full name and address? True player that one is!

Well it's over and done with; you might have to change your phone number to get rid of both of them. If it gets worse, restraining orders would be appropriate-always protect yourself. Don't let her drag you back in; too many other women who will be monogamous and treat you with respect. You can and will do so much better than her.

 

[PenMasterRule]

And you'd have every right to be pissed, unless you were two-timing him; then "you'd" deserve whatever you got IMO.

Exactly. And I really stuck with my guns when I found out she was cheating on me. That's why I didn't want us to share a bedroom. And the only reason she stayed the night was because her car broke down twenty miles away and I wanted to be nice. If there was some other way to do it I would have told her to leave that night.

Between the depression after the sex and telling her to sleep in a separate room, you are good at listening to that voice in your head and following its instructions. Had you not stood your ground, you would've never learned she was cheating and she would've had you both strung out.

I knew when you first posted this story I knew she was cheating, but I didn't want to pour salt in an open wound. That's why I referred to him as the "alleged" ex boyfriend. Why would this silly girl give this man your full name and address? True player that one is!

Well it's over and done with; you might have to change your phone number to get rid of both of them. If it gets worse, restraining orders would be appropriate-always protect yourself. Don't let her drag you back in; too many other women who will be monogamous and treat you with respect. You can and will do so much better than her.

I agree fully.

Thanks. I'll never take her back after this. I won't even talk to her anymore.

 

[Aimee]

Wait wait waitttt...
So you really think this ex-boyfriend guy is going to come and beat you up or something?
Why?
He got his manipulator back ...
What reason does he have to come find you?

 

[PenMasterRule]

Wait wait waitttt...
So you really think this ex-boyfriend guy is going to come and beat you up or something?
Why?
He got his manipulator back ...
What reason does he have to come find you?

No I don't think he'd do anything like that. But still I don't understand why she would go out of her way to give him my phone number, full name and tell him where I live when we were still supposedly going out. That just doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[kis123]

Wait wait waitttt...
So you really think this ex-boyfriend guy is going to come and beat you up or something?
Why?
He got his manipulator back ...
What reason does he have to come find you?

Aimee, simply put, people are stupid especially when they're being manipulated and think they're in love. I suggested that he protect himself because she's a sociopath and there's no telling where her moral bottom is. I didn't mean to cause anyone alarm, but it's a serious possibility to prepare for.

 

[kis123]

No I don't think he'd do anything like that. But still I don't understand why she would go out of her way to give him my phone number, full name and tell him where I live when we were still supposedly going out. That just doesn't make any sense to me.

Because she wanted the rush of two men fighting over her. Like I said before, she's a sociopath and has no moral bottom. People like that use people as a means to their end. She either would've played you for months or years, or she would've escalated a face to face confrontation. Either way you and him would've been at it and that's what she wanted.

Good news is that he can have her; he obviously aims low when it comes to women.........

 

[PenMasterRule]

Aimee, simply put, people are stupid especially when they're being manipulated and think they're in love. I suggested that he protect himself because she's a sociopath and there's no telling where her moral bottom is. I didn't mean to cause anyone alarm, but it's a serious possibility to prepare for.

Exactly. She didn't seem phased at all by what she said. It didn't stop her from getting off the phone, throwing her arms around me and telling me it was ok after she left their relationship up to the ex. And he also thinks he's in love.

But no I don't personally see this guy knocking on my door anytime soon. Or at all.

 

[PenMasterRule]

Because she wanted the rush of two men fighting over her. Like I said before, she's a sociopath and has no moral bottom. People like that use people as a means to their end. She either would've played you for months or years, or she would've escalated a face to face confrontation. Either way you and him would've been at it and that's what she wanted.

My overall opinion has changed of course. I'm no longer biased about the situation. Like you said she's a sociopath who wanted us to brawl it out over her.

Good news is that he can have her; he obviously aims low when it comes to women.........

lol or as I like to put it, 'going straight towards the bottom of the barrel.'

 

[Mz Chaos]

Guys often aren't as horny as you'd think, and women are often more horny than they let on.

Also I'd like to add guys don't always think about sex.

Yeah... I remember all this from my married days

 

[PenMasterRule]

Yeah... I remember all this from my married days

I really hope you aren't judging all men by one particular standard.

 

[kis123]

I really hope you aren't judging all men by one particular standard.

No, but when you get to our age and you've seen the same mess repeatedly, it gets difficult to remember all aren't the same.

 

[PenMasterRule]

No, but when you get to our age and you've seen the same mess repeatedly, it gets difficult to remember all aren't the same.

Yeah I can understand and respect that.

 

[Mz Chaos]

No, but when you get to our age and you've seen the same mess repeatedly, it gets difficult to remember all aren't the same.

Amen to that!!!

I'd love to meet a man that can prove to me that they aren't all the same. Unfortunately, I never seem to meet that sort of man. I meet the ones that just cement the belief even more.

OTHER gals meet the ones who are the exceptions.

 

[PenMasterRule]

Amen to that!!!

I'd love to meet a man that can prove to me that they aren't all the same. Unfortunately, I never seem to meet that sort of man. I meet the ones that just cement the belief even more.

OTHER gals meet the ones who are the exceptions.

lol I'm going to assume I'm one of the guys who falls into the exception category. Anyways I'm sorry about your troubles. they all seem to suck equally.

 

[Adam]

While I'll just be echoing what everyone else has said, I'm saying it anyway. You made the right choice. Better to cut ties before things got too out of hand.

 

[PenMasterRule]

While I'll just be echoing what everyone else has said, I'm saying it anyway. You made the right choice. Better to cut ties before things got too out of hand.

Hey you can never be told enough that you did you right thing. So thanks man. I really appreciate it 🙂

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

Like I said before, she's a sociopath and has no moral bottom......

Based on the information we've been given, we can say with reasonable certainty that she's selfish and immature. But a sociopath? No moral bottom? Come on now. I think what she did and how she treated him is wrong just as much as the next person, but throwing around mental health terms, aside from being entirely inaccurate and unnecessary, is a major cause of the unfair stigma against people with mental illness. There is absolutely no way you can tell from the information we have that she's a "sociopath with no moral bottom."

 

[PenMasterRule]

Based on the information we've been given, we can say with reasonable certainty that she's selfish and immature. But a sociopath? No moral bottom? Come on now. I think what she did and how she treated him is wrong just as much as the next person, but throwing around mental health terms, aside from being entirely inaccurate and unnecessary, is a major cause of the unfair stigma against people with mental illness. There is absolutely no way you can tell from the information we have that she's a "sociopath with no moral bottom."

Well I don't personally know about the sociopath part, but her moral bottom is brought into question. I mean someones morals would have to be brought into question when they have the type of phone conversation in front of her so-called BF while standing in my room. But it doesn't really matter now. Sociopath with no moral bottom or not. Right now I'm letting off some steam. She's really an alien with the IQ of 'DUH'.

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

Well I don't personally know about the sociopath part, but her moral bottom is brought into question. I mean someones morals would have to be brought into question when they have the type of phone conversation in front of her so-called BF while standing in my room. But it doesn't really matter now. Sociopath with no moral bottom or not. Right now I'm letting off some steam. She's really an alien with the IQ of 'DUH'.

Absolutely. I don't mean to minimize what you went through at all. Based on what you said, she behaved very selfishly. She was manipulative, dishonest and immature, but do you think she would have killed you? Burned down your house? Tortured your pets? Drowned a baby? I recognize these situations are much more serious than anything that's been discussed here so far, but when outrageous claims like "no moral bottom" are made, this is the type of stuff you're talking about. Throwing around mental health diagnoses that have absolutely no merit in this situation isn't going to change how she treated you.

You have every right to be pissed and call her nasty names or whatever else you'd want to do to blow off steam, but I take serious issue with outrageous claims being made, particularly when the focus of those outrageous claims is mental illness. Society is intolerant enough of the mentally ill. Let's not make it worse, hm?

 

[PenMasterRule]

Absolutely. I don't mean to minimize what you went through at all. Based on what you said, she behaved very selfishly. She was manipulative, dishonest and immature, but do you think she would have killed you? Burned down your house? Tortured your pets? Drowned a baby? I recognize these situations are much more serious than anything that's been discussed here so far, but when outrageous claims like "no moral bottom" are made, this is the type of stuff you're talking about. Throwing around mental health diagnoses that have absolutely no merit in this situation isn't going to change how she treated you.

You have every right to be pissed and call her nasty names or whatever else you'd want to do to blow off steam, but I take serious issue with outrageous claims being made, particularly when the focus of those outrageous claims is mental illness. Society is intolerant enough of the mentally ill. Let's not make it worse, hm?

You know sociopath doesn't mean psychopath.

Also I don't know how calling her a sociopath here is going to make things any worse for her. I mean I'm not about to post her picture. And if you look through my posts I've never mentioned her name, number or where she lives. She doesn't even know about the TMF or this post. I don't really see how it's going to hurt her.

 

[kis123]

Based on the information we've been given, we can say with reasonable certainty that she's selfish and immature. But a sociopath? No moral bottom? Come on now. I think what she did and how she treated him is wrong just as much as the next person, but throwing around mental health terms, aside from being entirely inaccurate and unnecessary, is a major cause of the unfair stigma against people with mental illness. There is absolutely no way you can tell from the information we have that she's a "sociopath with no moral bottom."

I've been on this earth long enough to identify sociopath from 100 yards. You don't have to like it and are certainly entitled to your opinion but I stand by every word I said.

And she certainly doesn't show any moral bottom; she would've played with him until she wore him out then move onto the next victim.

I'm not going to have another tete-a-tete with you. You can have this entire thread to do as you wish.

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

You know sociopath doesn't mean psychopath.

Also I don't know how calling her a sociopath here is going to make things any worse for her. I mean I'm not about to post her picture. And if you look through my posts I've never mentioned her name, number or where she lives. She doesn't even know about the TMF or this post. I don't really see how it's going to hurt her.

I am well aware of the definition of both sociopath and psychopath, and the similarities and differences between the two.

My point, however, is that I don't care if we're talking about psychopaths, sociopaths, narcissists, borderlines, OCD, schizophrenics, or any other diagnosis you can come up with. It doesn't need to be thrown around.

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

I've been on this earth long enough to identify sociopath from 100 yards. You don't have to like it and are certainly entitled to your opinion but I stand by every word I said.

And she certainly doesn't show any moral bottom; she would've played with him until she wore him out then move onto the next victim.

I'm not going to have another tete-a-tete with you. You can have this entire thread to do as you wish.

Being on this earth a certain number of years does not mean God suddenly bestows upon you the ability to diagnose mental illness.

No moral bottom? 🙄 Stop being so dramatic.

 

[PenMasterRule]

I am well aware of the definition of both sociopath and psychopath, and the similarities and differences between the two.

My point, however, is that I don't care if we're talking about psychopaths, sociopaths, narcissists, borderlines, OCD, schizophrenics, or any other diagnosis you can come up with. It doesn't need to be thrown around.

Forget this. You're right.

 

[PenMasterRule]

I'm just going to let this go. I can harp on it all day and night and nothings going to change. I got out of a bad situation before it could really escalate. I don't want to cause any fights or riffs or stuff like that because of some selfish/immature girl no one here except me knows.