What Does 'Past Your Limit' Mean To You?

[Oddjob0226]

See, this is what I've heard folks say that caused me to ponder the subject. In my mind, if it's capable of changing, then it wasn't your true limit. That's where you thought it was.......

That makes total sense. And in that case I've never reached my limit, and hope I never do. Coming close, though, would be exciting; as would getting someone close to their limit.

The dark, fantasy side of me = getting them to that limit.

BTW Oddjob: fantastic post! You really helped us get inside your head, to understand this question in a complex way.

Thanks Lindy! I always thought my first experience with tickling and restraint would be as a 'ler. Finding no brave cooperative souls it was I as a 'lee instead. It thrilled, then scared me, like the worst possible roller coaster, and I've been facinated by that ride ever since.

 

[LeeAllure]

As a 'ler, past my limit is when I'm exhausted, and can't muster
the energy (perhaps because the bottom is not laughing nor
exciting me any more) to tickle nor to find new spots.

If I can find a new way to make myself happy, and continue, then
I will. Otherwise, I'm done, and I'll move on to something else.

Lee

 

[EvenSteven]

testing my limits

Any tickling at all is past my limits. i've never been able to hold still and i know that i need to be restrained so i can't pull away. The mere thought of being bound and tickled is enough to get me aroused. The whole point is to be pushed past my limits. As to just what these limits are, well, it is up to the woman who tickles me to test them and it must be up to her discretion. For it to work, i must surrender control to her and be made to laugh out-of-control at her touch.

 

[Ayla ny]

Bella, great question.

Oddjob, amazing post.

Seems that “past your limit” is a pretty subjective thing. For me… it is being tickled for longer than I would have allowed, if I were able to stop it.

IF I were able to stop it.

I don’t want to be able to. That’s why I don’t really like a safe word. I am afraid that I will use it. Ideally, it is not up to me. I want to be tickled past my limit. Not past safety and health… but past what I would be capable of allowing.

Hope that makes sense. 🙂

 

[Oddjob0226]

That’s why I don’t really like a safe word. I am afraid that I will use it. Ideally, it is not up to me. I want to be tickled past my limit. Not past safety and health… but past what I would be capable of allowing.

That makes TOTAL sense. As a 'lee I don't really like safe words either because I know - if it is an intense session - that I will use the word out of panic or fear. I won't really "mean" it; often a vigorous, playful session can be wonderful. Sometimes, I want to be pushed, even when in my conscience mind I don't. I have just enough curious tickle masochist in me to get me into trouble. That's why communication period, not so much how it is done, is important. The culture of the safeword today is more of a basic failsafe, a sytem in place that all people can refer to whether they are beginners or expericenced heavy players. It's like having a common language in a large society. When you are with your own "group", however, the smaller societies within that larger society, you communicate in your own way.

In an ideal situation I'd communicate to my top/'ler this: If I use my safe word, slow the session down, even stop it, and find out what's going on. If I used it for a real health related issue, be it total panic attack or something else is going wrong (or is about to) the session ends. If I communicate to the 'ler that I used the word because "I can't stand it anymore", that's n ot a legit use of the word for me, so the 'ler can do what she feels is best in that situation. Presumedly it would be to go on, since ticklishly suffering is part of the game and there's no real danger on the horizon.

If I use a safe word because I am having chest pains, by all means stop! If I use it becasue you just hit my limit, where I'd tell you my bank account or SS# - anything you asked, I just couldn't help it (I was in that headspace during my first time as a 'lee), - well, maybe that's the time where a smart, trustworthy, communicative yet sadistic 'ler can help me be "stronger" by taking me farther. Just as limits can be subjective, how far you go past one is as well.

As a 'ler, my "limit" in the civilized, responsible world is when I hear the safe word with my 'lee. at least it has been so far. Underneath where the darker, more intense side is, my limit is rather similar to Lee Allure's - when I get bored or have worn myself out. I can certainly play nice and my scenes in real life so far have been within the consented limit of the 'lee...... but to have a curious 'lee, or one that's kind of tough, willing to take things farther, or just needs to be forced to let it go, let it all out - and get a chance at breaking her limit, what are you kidding me???? !!!!!!!

 

[TklDuo-Ann]

That’s why I don’t really like a safe word. I am afraid that I will use it.

Half the fun for me as a lee is testing myself as much as being tested by the ler(s). How long can I keep from laughing...or struggling...or outright fighting? But, when there's a ler who I want to really submit to and am in the mood to do so, I'll leave that aside and let it all hang out.

I love being a lee. I very rarely am a true sub, though I do desire to be more of one. I think that's something that a lot of us get mixed up.

 

[50greg]

For me, limits are a funny thing. I have such a love-hate thing with tickling. Once it starts, I reach my limit so quickly. Too quickly, really. I will beg for mercy in almost no time. I hate it at the time and try to get out of it. I promise anything to make it stop and cry, scream and beg. Then later, I crave it again. For me, it is the torture I seek. Perhaps driven to the edge of pain? I don't know, still haven't figured it out. Am I alone in this?

If it's the torture you seek, is this also a way for you to cede control of yourself to another person?

 

[tklgal226]

limit? what's that?

😛

 

[Oddjob0226]

Half the fun for me as a lee is testing myself as much as being tested by the ler(s). How long can I keep from laughing...or struggling...or outright fighting?

This is fun as a 'ler, too.... trying to get the 'lee to "crack", getting her to open up from the tickling. Which in a way is going beyond a limit. Just not the limit. No matter how light, affectionate and friendly tickling is, for those who are sensitive to tickling, there's always a bit of challenge in undergoing it.

 

[vampyr]

Am I the only one who thinks this way? 😕

Bella

Emphatically NO Bella U R not alone. In my early experiences I was tickled 2 the point where my vision blurred and I got light headed. Yes I'd had rapid fire orgasms but that did not compensate for the shortness of breath or the aching chest.

 

[Redmage]

Emphatically NO Bella U R not alone. In my early experiences I was tickled 2 the point where my vision blurred and I got light headed. Yes I'd had rapid fire orgasms but that did not compensate for the shortness of breath or the aching chest.

It sounds like fun 🙂 but how does it tie into Bella's musings about limits?

 

[Iwant2Btickled]

I have no idea what my personal limit is... I just know I haven't reached it yet... It would seem to me that "past" my limit would be further than I've ever been, and I agree that I think limits would float or move depending on the situation...
Loss of consciousness would definetly be past it for me, as well as losing like bladder control, that just makes me sick to my stomach thinking about it... I have no desire to be tickled to that point... but up to there... well, who knows.....

 

[Krekan]

When the 'lee starts crying or uses the safe-word is past the limit for me. By that time it just isn't for the 'lee and breaks down the sense of trust and security that lets them agree become helpless so you can tickle them. Besides, it makes you look like a complete ass when they break down and cry.

 

[SlaverTickler]

When laughing becomes screaming...

If the lee goes from laughing to screaming, and only screaming, then it is probably time to slow it down. Of course some lee's just scream, so when the tears start I would stop for sure. I am not as ruthless as my stories would lead you to think.

 

[brianspencer66]

limit is a relative term as some may have an out of body experience that transendental beyond the wrelm physical limitations and yet for others its much more basic. I think everyone is diffrent and some may seek that zone of unchartered dwelling and perhaps with even restraints there is a sort of liberation of mind body and spirit if one is with someone they deeply trust to get them lost on that journey. but hey what do I know?

 

[EvenSteven]

my definition of limit

If a Woman is tickling me without restraints then i can't really be pushed past my limits. But if i am tied down and am tickled to the point that i would seriously try to escape if i could, then that is past my limit. This is how i like it. At that point i will begin to experience the real thrill of being forced to laugh and i will become psychologically submissive to the Woman.

 

[jj40]

limit-passing

I've seen many, many posts that mention someone being driven 'past their limits' and loving every minute of it, or disliking it but loving how intense it was. This isn't right, in my mind. If you're enjoying something, or even if it's driving you crazy but you're fond of the memory afterward, then in my opinion your limit wasn't crossed.

Am I the only one who thinks this way? 😕

Bella

I don't think that you're the only one who thinks that way. To me, "past my limits" doesn't sound like fun at all. If I'm in a ticklish situation, I want it to be with someone who's there to have fun, not someone who's there to *drive* me anywhere. I think that trust is a big part of being able to relax and enjoy the tickling and whatever that might lead to.

 

[drew70]

See, this is what I've heard folks say that caused me to ponder the subject. In my mind, if it's capable of changing, then it wasn't your true limit. That's where you thought it was, but 'limit' to me is, well, the limit for you; I guess I'm thinking it's not fluid or adjustable, but pretty final-it's as far as you personally can ever go comfortably, not just where you can go at this point. Does that make sense?

Not at all, at least to me. I look at "limits" as something the victims decide for themselves, as to how much they regard as reasonable, fun, or whatever. This may change from one day to the next depending on how the person feels on a physical level, and how much enthusiasm they have on that day. I don't look at limits as a immutable level of physical or mental stress one can endure without permanent damage.

 

[barefeetarebest]

limit is a relative term as some may have an out of body experience that transendental beyond the wrelm physical limitations and yet for others its much more basic. I think everyone is diffrent and some may seek that zone of unchartered dwelling and perhaps with even restraints there is a sort of liberation of mind body and spirit if one is with someone they deeply trust to get them lost on that journey. but hey what do I know?

If a Woman is tickling me without restraints then i can't really be pushed past my limits. But if i am tied down and am tickled to the point that i would seriously try to escape if i could, then that is past my limit. This is how i like it. At that point i will begin to experience the real thrill of being forced to laugh and i will become psychologically submissive to the Woman.

Well, here are two gentlemen that think exactly like I do about this subject