What's everyone's problem with Jon Cena?

[MWhoTklsFemFeet]

I seriously want to know what everyone has against Jon Cena, and I don't want to hear "He's just for kids" or "He can't wrestler" or some other ridiculious reason like that.

Don't get me wrong, I love him, but the last time I checked Batista wasn't exactly dripping with wrestling talent and every arena he walks into the place explodes, but yet Jon Cena walks into a arena and it's a mixed reaction at best. The guy gives his all, made a career desicion to comeback early from a injury, and outside of Triple H has more passion than maybe any of the guys in the business.

What honestly is the problem with Jon Cena?

 

[SlaverTickler]

I seriously want to know what everyone has against Jon Cena, and I don't want to hear "He's just for kids" or "He can't wrestler" or some other ridiculious reason like that.

Don't get me wrong, I love him, but the last time I checked Batista wasn't exactly dripping with wrestling talent and every arena he walks into the place explodes, but yet Jon Cena walks into a arena and it's a mixed reaction at best. The guy gives his all, made a career desicion to comeback early from a injury, and outside of Triple H has more passion than maybe any of the guys in the business.

What honestly is the problem with Jon Cena?

I don't denie Cena tries, but he's no Chris Jericho in the ring, or on the mic. No body will argue that Batista is less then a steller worker, I think he is a 2 bit Warrior wanna be, and the Warrior was a 2 bit performer himself. After a long stretch of great workers like Hart, Micheals, Austin, and Hunter some of the older fans just don't care for Cena.

 

[primetime]

I have been wondering that same thing. Cena is a hard worker and performs well inside the ring. I can't figure out why people hate him. But it is true that kids/women love him and young adult males dislike him. Go figure.

I think Cena needs to go back to his "rap" promos. That's what got him popular in the first place. I notice that once he got away from doing that, that's when he started to get booed. That's why when the Rock turned heel (after he lost to Brock Lesnar) I was excited because he was going to be hilarious in his promos insulting everyone. Remember the Rock concerts? Great stuff.

I think Cena is going to remain a "tweener" with fans for a while. I also think it depends on which city he is in. When he is in smaller cities, he gets more cheers. When he is a major city such as New York, Chicago, etc, that's when more boos are given. Plus, I think the fans enjoy going back and forth with each other with the "Let's go Cena!" and "Cena Sucks!".

 

[SlaverTickler]

They could always try a twist on the Hogan heel turn, where he forms an group with other "Fed up with the fans" tweenies. Then he would become a bad ass, and eventualy it would come around to him being liked again. When the time is right, the group throse him out, picks up a new member, and then he can go through his former faction a member at a time. It wouldn't be unlike the old Horsemen formula. Bring in a member, buld him up, kick him out, he fueda with Flair. The only difference is the leader would be getting kicked out by another "Alpha Male".

The only real draw back to it that I could see would be that merch sales might drop. Then again with his fans it may be a case of "Cena can do no wrong".

 

[primetime]

I was thinking the same thing. Turn Cena heel, let him get back on the mic and insult the fans. His "rap" persona served him well and got him to where he is. Might as well let him return to his roots and try it again. Although I think this "tweener" thing is new territory for the WWE. Let's see how it plays out.

 

[SlaverTickler]

I was thinking the same thing. Turn Cena heel, let him get back on the mic and insult the fans. His "rap" persona served him well and got him to where he is. Might as well let him return to his roots and try it again. Although I think this "tweener" thing is new territory for the WWE. Let's see how it plays out.

See I told you I had good ideas.

 

[storm7400]

Cena won't turn heel no matter how much it would benefit him and smarks.

Face it, for better or worse Cena is a top $ maker in the WWE. His merchandise sales are always near or at the top of the list of superstars and turning him heel would hurt that.


As for not liking Cena, I can totally am not a Cena fan because frankly he became stale very quickly not to mention that he didn't exactly "pay his dues" so to speak in getting to the Main Event spot. Older Fans don't like to be told who to root for and who not too. Cena has been this over the top babyface for too long and its gotten stale as I mentioned. He's limited in the ring, although he has greatly improved, his mic work is good but again stale. Its always the same schpeel with him. Not to mention can you name the last time he wasn't completely out of the title picture? I mean Trips always gets scolded for monopolizing the Title picture, but before this reign he hadn't held it for almost 2 years. He faded back, did the whole DX reunion gig and then got back into the Title hunt. Whereas Cena is always right there in it and its bs. Without a character turn or a decent running mid card feud that takes him out of the Title picture for awhile, the heat will always be on John.

 

[SlaverTickler]

Cena won't turn heel no matter how much it would benefit him and smarks.

Face it, for better or worse Cena is a top $ maker in the WWE. His merchandise sales are always near or at the top of the list of superstars and turning him heel would hurt that.


As for not liking Cena, I can totally am not a Cena fan because frankly he became stale very quickly not to mention that he didn't exactly "pay his dues" so to speak in getting to the Main Event spot. Older Fans don't like to be told who to root for and who not too. Cena has been this over the top babyface for too long and its gotten stale as I mentioned. He's limited in the ring, although he has greatly improved, his mic work is good but again stale. Its always the same schpeel with him. Not to mention can you name the last time he wasn't completely out of the title picture? I mean Trips always gets scolded for monopolizing the Title picture, but before this reign he hadn't held it for almost 2 years. He faded back, did the whole DX reunion gig and then got back into the Title hunt. Whereas Cena is always right there in it and its bs. Without a character turn or a decent running mid card feud that takes him out of the Title picture for awhile, the heat will always be on John.

Politics has been keeping things stail for a while. Even when Hogan was the man he was smart enough to let guys come up so he could work with different people. Mind you that was a golden era, and it will never be done that way again. If they could find that blend of Hogan's mic skills and Hart's ring skills then you would have an ideal worker. Trips gets school for his monopolizing of the title picture because of why he is able to do it, not because he lacks talent... though his promo's (of the past) were way to long, and said nothing. Hunter's "dues paying" was because of the "Madison Squre Garden" insadent where he and Shawn went out to say fair well to Hall, Nash, and Walman who where leaving for WCW (I think Waltman was leaving?!?). If it hadn't been for that momment, then Hunter would have been riding high with HBK and not been getting thrown into pig pens.

 

[storm7400]

Politics has been keeping things stail for a while. Even when Hogan was the man he was smart enough to let guys come up so he could work with different people. Mind you that was a golden era, and it will never be done that way again. If they could find that blend of Hogan's mic skills and Hart's ring skills then you would have an ideal worker. Trips gets school for his monopolizing of the title picture because of why he is able to do it, not because he lacks talent... though his promo's (of the past) were way to long, and said nothing. Hunter's "dues paying" was because of the "Madison Squre Garden" insadent where he and Shawn went out to say fair well to Hall, Nash, and Walman who where leaving for WCW (I think Waltman was leaving?!?). If it hadn't been for that momment, then Hunter would have been riding high with HBK and not been getting thrown into pig pens.

Ok........ LEARN TO SPELL FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!

Seriously how can anyone take you seriously when you have the grammar skills of a 3rd grader.


Anyway back on point, always referring to the past and "the golden age" of wrestling makes you nothing more then a relic and of no use in the 21st century. You can blame politics all you want for Trips rise to power but don't dare question his dues paying. He did his time in the mid card, rose to an admirable IC Champ, carried on the tradition that is DX, and carried the WWE when injuries and what not took HBK and Austin out of the picture in the Attitude Era.


Move on past 1995, Hogan and Hart are basically irrelevant afterthoughts in todays WWE. You made no effort to actually counter my thoughts on Cena, only YET AGAIN used and excuse to mention Hogan and Hart. Stop trolling please.

 

[Adam]

Fans tend to turn against anyone that WWE pushes as the "face" of the franchise, especially if that guy isn't the most gifted wrestling technician. Same reason not everyone cared for The Rock. I have nothing against Cena, personally. It's WWE hierarchy that decides who gets what push.

 

[SlaverTickler]

Ok........ LEARN TO SPELL FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!

Seriously how can anyone take you seriously when you have the grammar skills of a 3rd grader.


Anyway back on point, always referring to the past and "the golden age" of wrestling makes you nothing more then a relic and of no use in the 21st century. You can blame politics all you want for Trips rise to power but don't dare question his dues paying. He did his time in the mid card, rose to an admirable IC Champ, carried on the tradition that is DX, and carried the WWE when injuries and what not took HBK and Austin out of the picture in the Attitude Era.




Move on past 1995, Hogan and Hart are basically irrelevant afterthoughts in todays WWE. You made no effort to actually counter my thoughts on Cena, only YET AGAIN used and excuse to mention Hogan and Hart. Stop trolling please.

My spelling and Grammer be it bad or good (and it's bad) it is a known fact that Trips was in the dog house over what happened at MSG when Hall, Nash & Waltman were leaving, and if he hadn't married the bosses daughter he would have been their a hell of alot longer. This puts his "dues paying" into question, if you don't like it, that to bad, but it's a stain on his career that will never go away for those who know about it. His IC title run didn't come around until after he was involved with Steph (behind Chyna's back, and now that they are married all he had to do is say "Honey can I be champ again?" and presto he gets the belt. The guy is talented, no one can question that, but that is not why he is where he is, it because of his wife. Who else do you know that blows their quad every 6-8 months and still keep a job in the WWE as a performer in the ring?

My mention of Bret Hart and Hulk Hogan is lagit too. Face it Storm if a guy could work in the ring like Hart, and work the mike with the skill Hogan did, he would be the greatest all around performer the biz would ever see. And if Hogan and Hart are so irrelivent why does McMahon keep bringing him back, and why would he give his left nut to get Hart on WWE TV?

THE POWER OF VINCE COMPELS YOU!!!

 

[badreligion]

I seriously want to know what everyone has against Jon Cena, and I don't want to hear "He's just for kids" or "He can't wrestler" or some other ridiculious reason like that.

Don't get me wrong, I love him, but the last time I checked Batista wasn't exactly dripping with wrestling talent and every arena he walks into the place explodes, but yet Jon Cena walks into a arena and it's a mixed reaction at best. The guy gives his all, made a career desicion to comeback early from a injury, and outside of Triple H has more passion than maybe any of the guys in the business.

What honestly is the problem with Jon Cena?

i have a problem with Batista as well

the only reason Cena and Batista arnt where they should be * curtian jerkers or mid card at best * is because Vince has a hard on for guys like them . I mean Cena and Batista were good at first but then they kept getting shoved down our throats , and Cena was built up to be this superhuman unbeatable always beating the odds character and it got boring . I mean he was champion for three years and people got sick of it his matches became * and still are * predictiable not to mention his move set has been cut down drastically he has more moves but they wont let him do it . As for Batista , he cant cut promos , he cant wrestle again hes only at where he is because of his friendship with Triple H and the fact that Vince has a hard on for guys like him .

Bottom line ... The WWE needs to stop with all these stupid gimicks like tryin to turn Raw into the price is right its not entertaining all it shows is a serious lack of ideas for storylines.

 

[badreligion]

My spelling and Grammer be it bad or good (and it's bad) it is a known fact that Trips was in the dog house over what happened at MSG when Hall, Nash & Waltman were leaving, and if he hadn't married the bosses daughter he would have been their a hell of alot longer. This puts his "dues paying" into question, if you don't like it, that to bad, but it's a stain on his career that will never go away for those who know about it. His IC title run didn't come around until after he was involved with Steph (behind Chyna's back, and now that they are married all he had to do is say "Honey can I be champ again?" and presto he gets the belt. The guy is talented, no one can question that, but that is not why he is where he is, it because of his wife. Who else do you know that blows their quad every 6-8 months and still keep a job in the WWE as a performer in the ring?

My mention of Bret Hart and Hulk Hogan is lagit too. Face it Storm if a guy could work in the ring like Hart, and work the mike with the skill Hogan did, he would be the greatest all around performer the biz would ever see. And if Hogan and Hart are so irrelivent why does McMahon keep bringing him back, and why would he give his left nut to get Hart on WWE TV?

THE POWER OF VINCE COMPELS YOU!!!

I disagree with you sayin that Triple H is only at where he is because of his marriage . If you look back to the Curtian call HHH took the full brunt of the fallout for that for many years after that he had to bust his ass and job to alot of people before he was even considered for title runs. Also you talk about how he injured himself and was out for 6 to 8 months and still had a job and thats just cause of his wife ? no its not , go look at Stone cold Steve Austin he was out for a year with his neck injury and he still had a job , Shawn Michales he was out for 4 years with a back injury and was still paid and even got to come back and be an on air guy from time to time .... the reason guys like them still have jobs in the company even if they are injured for a while is because they bust there ass while they are there and do alot for the company

 

[bobsaget789]

i dont have a problem with cena i have a problem with randy orton!

 

[FlockOfSeagulls]

My spelling and Grammer be it bad or good (and it's bad) it is a known fact that Trips was in the dog house over what happened at MSG when Hall, Nash & Waltman were leaving, and if he hadn't married the bosses daughter he would have been their a hell of alot longer. This puts his "dues paying" into question, if you don't like it, that to bad, but it's a stain on his career that will never go away for those who know about it. His IC title run didn't come around until after he was involved with Steph (behind Chyna's back, and now that they are married all he had to do is say "Honey can I be champ again?" and presto he gets the belt. The guy is talented, no one can question that, but that is not why he is where he is, it because of his wife. Who else do you know that blows their quad every 6-8 months and still keep a job in the WWE as a performer in the ring?

My mention of Bret Hart and Hulk Hogan is lagit too. Face it Storm if a guy could work in the ring like Hart, and work the mike with the skill Hogan did, he would be the greatest all around performer the biz would ever see. And if Hogan and Hart are so irrelivent why does McMahon keep bringing him back, and why would he give his left nut to get Hart on WWE TV?

THE POWER OF VINCE COMPELS YOU!!!

Can you Ever post about wrestling without somehow bringing up Hart or Vince.

I freakin` dare you to ...

 

[natural tickler]

I disagree with you sayin that Triple H is only at where he is because of his marriage . If you look back to the Curtian call HHH took the full brunt of the fallout for that for many years after that he had to bust his ass and job to alot of people before he was even considered for title runs. Also you talk about how he injured himself and was out for 6 to 8 months and still had a job and thats just cause of his wife ? no its not , go look at Stone cold Steve Austin he was out for a year with his neck injury and he still had a job , Shawn Michales he was out for 4 years with a back injury and was still paid and even got to come back and be an on air guy from time to time .... the reason guys like them still have jobs in the company even if they are injured for a while is because they bust there ass while they are there and do alot for the company

to correct you, HHH was a three time champion before he ever got down with Steph, so the relationship had nothing to do with his success. He is successful because he has a passion for the business like no other. He helps people succeed, makes them shine well above him, sacrifices himself for the company, and was the best top heel ever. I wish he would return to heel, quite frankly.

 

[badreligion]

to correct you, HHH was a three time champion before he ever got down with Steph, so the relationship had nothing to do with his success. He is successful because he has a passion for the business like no other. He helps people succeed, makes them shine well above him, sacrifices himself for the company, and was the best top heel ever. I wish he would return to heel, quite frankly.

LOL why are you correcting me , thats exactly what i said ... his sucess didnt start when he married Steph it happend way before that

 

[SlaverTickler]

One Last Word on it...

I disagree with you sayin that Triple H is only at where he is because of his marriage . If you look back to the Curtian call HHH took the full brunt of the fallout for that for many years after that he had to bust his ass and job to alot of people before he was even considered for title runs. Also you talk about how he injured himself and was out for 6 to 8 months and still had a job and thats just cause of his wife ? no its not , go look at Stone cold Steve Austin he was out for a year with his neck injury and he still had a job , Shawn Michales he was out for 4 years with a back injury and was still paid and even got to come back and be an on air guy from time to time .... the reason guys like them still have jobs in the company even if they are injured for a while is because they bust there ass while they are there and do alot for the company

Thats not true, Trips was involved with Steph at the same time he was involved with Chyna. They were seeing each other long before it was outed, and it was only outed because Chyna found some letter Steph had writen HHH. They were together alot longer then you realize, other wise why would Vince put the title on somebody who pissed him off?

Thats all I'm done.
ST

 

[Tickle Fiend]

I seriously want to know what everyone has against Jon Cena, and I don't want to hear "He's just for kids" or "He can't wrestler" or some other ridiculious reason like that.

Don't get me wrong, I love him, but the last time I checked Batista wasn't exactly dripping with wrestling talent and every arena he walks into the place explodes, but yet Jon Cena walks into a arena and it's a mixed reaction at best. The guy gives his all, made a career desicion to comeback early from a injury, and outside of Triple H has more passion than maybe any of the guys in the business.

What honestly is the problem with Jon Cena?

I wonder the same thing about Batista. I think Batista should really be the one being booed. People had the right to boo Cena before his injury because he really was the "same old shit" every week. I don't think that there's anything special about him now. One of things that helped get him over was his rapping gimmick and he doesn't even do that anymore.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

Fans tend to turn against anyone that WWE pushes as the "face" of the franchise, especially if that guy isn't the most gifted wrestling technician. Same reason not everyone cared for The Rock. I have nothing against Cena, personally. It's WWE hierarchy that decides who gets what push.

I think people hate the wrestlers who are to goody-goody. Cena has lost his edge.

 

[Adam]

Good point. I'd mark out if Cena became an angry, heelish thug again. Somehow I doubt we see it, though.

 

[natural tickler]

LOL why are you correcting me , thats exactly what i said ... his sucess didnt start when he married Steph it happend way before that

well then, i stand corrected. My apologies