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Where does the Tickling Fetish Come From???

ForgottenTcklr

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I thought that I would start this thread to get some discussion going.
Here's the Question...

Is tickling as a fetish, something you are born with or not???
 
Very Good Question!

I tend to believe that fetishes and sexual orientation are both things that you learn. Your surroundings and your experiances help you to decide what is arousing to you. It is a subconcious thing, so we can't really help what we are, we just adapt accordingly.
 
You know 46,

I am inclined to agree with you. However, how can you explain that tickling has been absoulutely fascinating to me since I was four or five (the age I can remember)???
 
ForgottenTckler, you have a point. I myself remember being (slightly uncomfortably) told by my parents that I would always go for people's feet, even as a toddler. I thank God that they missed the symbolism... 🙂

However, that doesn't prove anything really. Perhaps you and I (or indeed anyone on this board) happened to see a cartoon or magazine etc. that prompted a child's curious interest, an interest that left a seed in our subconscious that would eventually blossom into a sexual orientation?

Of course, with no proof, it all lies in the realms of hypothesis...
 
Re: Very Good Question!

46and2 said:
I tend to believe that fetishes and sexual orientation are both things that you learn. Your surroundings and your experiances help you to decide what is arousing to you. It is a subconcious thing, so we can't really help what we are, we just adapt accordingly.

I think that nails it.😀
 
Tickling is actually a common way for primates to play. Not just people, but chimps and gorillas tickle each other too. That says to me that tickling is hard-wired into us, though as we all know, some of us (Who? Moi?) take a lot more interest in it than others. I kinda think our "fetish" is just one extreme end of a spectrum.

Strelnikov
 
I sort of agree with Strelnikov, but, I also sort of agree with everyone else. Personally, I think its a mixture of the two.

I remember I once watched a show about how boys and girls are different, and about how while unborn babies grow, the ammount of chemicals which end up in certain parts of their brains should effect how they act. In theory, most (human and other creatures) males are more agressive. This goes for humans and apes anyway, most of the time. Still, some females will get the same chemical ballence as males, which could mean they would grow up to be tomboys.

I think tickling could be an imbeded thing like that, most people in general have tickled someone for fun, only some people (like the people on this board) have a much greater desire for it.

Finally, I think a persons surroundings and how they are brought up can have a big impact on their psyche as a whole, possibly increasing or decreasing their like of tickling, and other things.

Hmm, I'll stop rambling now ^^x;
 
This sounds like the age old psych debate about "nature vs. nuture", which just boils down to genetics or environment. I tend to believe that you can't have one without the other. I can make solid arguments for both.
For most of us, our love for tickling goes back "as far as we can remember". I think that that is pretty amazing! Think about it....as small children (sometimes as early as 4 years old) we knew (on some primitive level) what turned us on! How incredible is that?! No one really thinks that little ones can be capable of that kind of thought...at least, I didn't. This makes me think that there is definite genetic input to this equation. I can't site a tickling genetic link as my example, but instead one of other behaviors. I grew up a thousand miles away from my father (since age 2). We had little to no contact on a regular basis (maybe I'd see him twice a year.) Only as an adult, I have finally made a real connection with him...and what I've found ASTOUNDS me. We are SO similar in personality, and preferences that it's spooky. I could sit here and make a list of all the ways that we mirror each other, but I think you get the point. So, how can two people who had barely any contact with each other be so alike? Genetics. It's the only explanation for it. Makes me kind of wonder if he has the same love of tickling that I do...but being that it's my Dad, I think I'd rather not know for sure (yuck!).

On the environmental side of the argument, I can remember getting into countless tickle fights with my brother. Actually, they weren't really tickle fights because I never stood a chance at retribution...he was 7 years older than I was. I don't have any super early memories of this kind of play with him, but I can remember it around elementary school age. I remember this play being a fun way that the two of us bonded and interacted with each other. So, was it this kind of play that formed my love for tickling, or was it there already? Who knows for sure. I do know that by early elementary school I was already seeking out tickling attention from men (father figure types, I guess.) Not to psych-babble too much about it, but I have often thought that the lack of a true father figure in my life often drove me to seek out the attention of other men to fill that void. And as a result, I got into tickling because that is often involved in the play between children and their fathers...or whoever is playing that role. I could be way off base here though....just a thought.

As kind of a side note, it amazes me that we as 'lees learn to manipulate so early on. Think about how many times you (if you're a 'lee) have instigated someone to tickle you....countless times, I'm sure. I was fairly adept at it before I even left elementary school. We are a crafty lot, aren't we? LOL. I guess we all learn how to get what we want...does that somehow fit in with Darwin's whole theory of survival of the fittest? LOL...probably not, although I don't think I could survive without any tickles in my life...so, maybe it does! 😀



So, I guess I believe that the two influences of genetics and environment both have a strong input on the person we become. I guess I could have saved all the psycho-babble and just left it at that, couldn't I? Oh well, I guess being straight and to the point isn't my strong suit 😉


Maggie
 
See, thats exactly what I think. They are simply two different ways which end in the same result, you can either have been influenced by one, the other, or both.

Personally, I don't think I realised how much I liked tickling till I was about 14! Thats pretty old compared to alot of people on here, as far as I've seen. Does this mean genetics didn't influence me? I'm not really sure. I can't think of any real reason, any event that would make me really like tickling. Infact, when I was younger and my older stepbrothers tickled me, I really didn't like it.

However, things have obviously changed and I don't know why (To be honest, I don't really care why either 😛 ). All I can get from this discussion though is that everyones different, and there are many different ways to end up finding tickling arousing, or anything else for that matter. Hmm, I'm rambling again, better stop while it still makes sense >_>x
 
I don't think that it's really an answerable question, I mean we just don't know enough, and probably never will. I just wanted to hear your opinions!!!
 
This guy has done a very large study on a closely related topic. It's about 4 to 5 thousand words long. It either applies directely to any given reader here or it doesn't. You can tell within 60 seconds of reading it. He focuses on the foot aspect; very little consideration of tickling, but his study is pretty much right down the line with what has been written in this thread; only more thourough and academic (looks like grad school work). His spelling and syntax are almost as bad as mine.


http://www.curtin.edu.au/curtin/dept/physio/podiatry/fetish.html
 
As far as I can tell, it is something that I was born with or learned at a very early age. That is because as far back as I can remember, which is to age four, I have been excited and aroused by even the thought of being tickled by an attractive female. And, to a lesser extent, of tickling an attractive female.
 
Yep..

I think I was born to love tickling!! Well....what I really mean is, I have had a passion for tickling for as long as I can remember...basically my whole life.
 
I'm going to place my vote in nature... I think I was born liking both feet and tickling. I can remember also at the age of 4 liking both of these. In my opinion, when you are born, you have a little zip file implanted in your brain, and as you grow, more and more of it decompresses and unzips, and things like sexual prefrences emerge.

Its hard for me to think of what someone who DOES NOT have a foot/tickling fetish fantasizes about during intercourse. While its true that the female body in general is very arousing to me, tickling and feet are the climax for me. I can't explain why, but I know in my head that I was born with the code already written. I don't believe that when I was a small impressional child that I had some kind of weird experience with feet that turned into a fetish and that the same thing happened to millions of other people around the world...
Dirk
 
Ok...I'm seeing this from a couple of angles. I've loved being tickled for as long as I can remember, and this has progressed into being "pinned down" while having my feet tickled. The pinning down started as a kind of fantasy, it had never been done to me, but I wanted it to. The other angle to this is that I have a young son who will ask me to hold him in a tight cuddle and tickle him...my mum says I used to ask her the same thing when I was the age my son is now. Did my fantasy start then? Did, somehow, I pass this on to my son? It has to be a combination of both nature and nurture, or at least that's my own personal view.
 
Freudian theory and other ideas...

All right - this is a little boring but it's interesting!

" I can remember having it from as far back as I can remember " is roughly what many of you have said, and I am in this category. According to the old duffer Freud, development is centralised around stuff like pleasure (or the Id), and it begins when? You guessed it - right from the moment you are born and lasts about up to two years old. Some things lie dormant until they are awakened later along the road - which is different for everyone and might explain why some realise their fetish later in life.

Other theories to foot fetishism is crawling around people's feet when we are young and being more interested than others with what's there! Tickling might derive from being tickled at a young age or doing it to others, like I have two brothers, both older than I and they did it to me (affectionately like, not to kill me or whatever!). Like someone here already said, it is a common way of expressing our affection (it's close contact, makes us laugh and smile, etc).

Now I'm not a Freudian or neccessarily agree with this but its another tangent on our little question! And I've waffled on for long enough so THANKS SO MUCH if you bothered to read it all.

Love one another, Lennon :angel:
 
Got to agree with that...my son has been fascinated with feet since he was a tiny baby...he used to lie on the floor playing with his feet or mine...never his dads feet though...he's also always loved being tickled...he still tries to play with my feet, and it's not unknown for him to crawl under my desk and fall asleep with his face on my feet...he'll also as he falls asleep gently tickle my feet as if it's a security thing that allows him to relax enough to sleep. I'm rambling now, and probably making no sense so I'll stop here!
 
Definatly born with and inherited too for that matter as my mom was very much into tickling as a Tickler.
It has been in and a part of my life for as long as I can recall dating back as far as 5 years old(1965).

TTD
 
My parents told me after the fact, when i was much older, that when I was a young kid I used to love to play tickling games with my family and friends!
 
I like Dirk answer,

I think with me it was a combination. I remember being fascinated with pretty feet as far back as three years old. However, I also remember a period of being relatively dormant from about 9-11--I would still tickle but there was no sexual connotation associated with it for me then. Then when I was twelve, all of the girls in school who had a cursh on me would tickle me! Of course I'd tickle them back and they'd return the favor and so on and so on...Bing! The on switch was hit from that point forward. Then came the later part of the sixth grade and junior high, when girls begin to look like women and less like little girls. So when the cuties of the class would slip their shoes off in the summer and spring to reveal pretty barefeet my fate was sealed :sowrong:
 
It does not make since that before I loved women and had sexual fantasies, I was having tickling fantasies...

There has to be a reasonable explanation!
 
I think it all started at a 5000 watt radio station in Fresno California.....😀 😉 😛


TTD
 
Yeah, I would deem tickling as a fetish...for me it started out as a type of affection - both as a ler and a lee.

When I hit puberty (last week), it grew into eroticism, and I have never looked back.

All my coupling with females have involved tickling. I do believe it's the only way I can get aroused...

Unless, of course, you have a vertically-challenged individual in your back pocket who is dressed in leiderhosen and is willing to sing "La Bamba" while throwing eggs at my willy...

What?

:wow:
 
TickledToDeath said:
I think it all started at a 5000 watt radio station in Fresno California.....😀 😉 😛
TTD

Oh you!!😛

You'll be the "Death" of us all...ahahahahhahaha!!

Ok, yours was better...

Cheers. 😀
 
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