Who fakes it?

[DeanGrimes7]

Curious question for you all.

Of all the tickle models we have seen who do you think "fakes it" who really isn't that ticklish?

I've a few people in my head by I'll not share until I see what you all think!

 

[COOLCAT88]

There isn't a surefire way to tell if one is faking or not

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[primetime]

There is NO guaranteed way to tell if a model is truly ticklish or not. Some folks on here will claim they know, but it is just a theory, not fact. No matter how much they brag and boast that they "know", in reality, they don't. Only producers and the models themselves can tell you for sure. Unless you personally know these people and can find out yourself from the model themselves, you are kidding yourself if you say "so and so model" IS faking it as fact.

So, anyone in this thread who they say a certain model is faking it, remember folks, it is an opinion, NOT fact.

 

[ChicagoDavid]

There is NO guaranteed way to tell if a model is truly ticklish or not. Some folks on here will claim they know, but it is just a theory, not fact. No matter how much they brag and boast that they "know", in reality, they don't. Only producers and the models themselves can tell you for sure. Unless you personally know these people and can find out yourself from the model themselves, you are kidding yourself if you say "so and so model" IS faking it as fact.

So, anyone in this thread who they say a certain model is faking it, remember folks, it is an opinion, NOT fact.

Agreed. I've had the experience of doing sessions with models who I thought were faking, but it turns out, were not! And one where it never occurred to me that she was faking, but she was. BTW, a common form of faking is exaggerating.

 

[brotherted]

I sometimes see fakery... but more often, I'd call it exaggeration, i.e. playing to the camera.

Fastest giveaways:
1.) Unchanged volume and level of reaction, regardless of body part
2.) Zero to 60 in 1 second -- in real life, the biggest tickle reactions develop over time -- are not immediate
3.) A certain brand of poorly delivered, phony "please stop" pleading, given from the outset, that doesn't make given a model who's clearly being paid for a shoot -- very unlikely for a real tickle reaction to co-exist with extremely unreal verbal lines
4.) Fakers and exaggerators don't tend to pull against restraints -- they generally think of their "performance" as mostly about making laughing sounds
5.) No tensing face and body muscles before or after the laughter.

 

[WheresThe Clip?]

I sometimes see fakery... but more often, I'd call it exaggeration, i.e. playing to the camera.

Fastest giveaways:
1.) Unchanged volume and level of reaction, regardless of body part
2.) Zero to 60 in 1 second -- in real life, the biggest tickle reactions develop over time -- are not immediate
3.) A certain brand of poorly delivered, phony "please stop" pleading, given from the outset, that doesn't make given a model who's clearly being paid for a shoot -- very unlikely for a real tickle reaction to co-exist with extremely unreal verbal lines
4.) Fakers and exaggerators don't tend to pull against restraints -- they generally think of their "performance" as mostly about making laughing sounds
5.) No tensing face and body muscles before or after the laughter.

The one that gets me is when they keep repeating "Oh my feet are so ticklish"

 

[jklopez]

It's hard to tell. For me, I've always felt that the realtickling and ticklingparadise clips were kind of fake, or at the very least, the women weren't as ticklish as they tried to make them seem. Maybe if guys gave examples of models they felt were "fakers" we could all judge for ourselves? But, guys cry wolf so much on the topic it's hard to take seriously. People have claimed that Milf Nikki, Kelli, and Brooke from Tickle Abuse were all fakers.

The problem with the so called signs of a women faking is that they're women who actually are ticklish who have those same reactions. I remember I dated a girl with really sensitive feet, so sensitive that rubbing them tickled even while wearing socks. Sometimes I tickled her feet and she would freeze up and just laughed his head off. Then they would be times I'd tickle her feet and she immediately pull her feet away.

And when it comes to women going from 0 to 100 when being tickled. There have been times when I tickled a woman and she started being frantic immediately. So there doesn't necessarily mean there needs to be a gradual build up when it comes to their reactions.

 

[turtleboy]

I sometimes see fakery... but more often, I'd call it exaggeration, i.e. playing to the camera.

Fastest giveaways:
1.) Unchanged volume and level of reaction, regardless of body part
2.) Zero to 60 in 1 second -- in real life, the biggest tickle reactions develop over time -- are not immediate
3.) A certain brand of poorly delivered, phony "please stop" pleading, given from the outset, that doesn't make given a model who's clearly being paid for a shoot -- very unlikely for a real tickle reaction to co-exist with extremely unreal verbal lines
4.) Fakers and exaggerators don't tend to pull against restraints -- they generally think of their "performance" as mostly about making laughing sounds
5.) No tensing face and body muscles before or after the laughter.

True, a fake reaction could include some or all of these points but:

1) Some people do this - some actually have very consistent laughs that barely change at all, it just depends on the individual. Some get a lot louder, some don't.
2) This actually happens all the time to be honest.
3) This is usually scripted from studios that produce scripted clips - it doesn't have any real bearing on whether they're actually ticklish or not in most cases (as they can still deliver fake dialogue when being tickled), it's just people saying what they are told to say. It's generally because it's what fans like or request.
4) As with point 1) some people are just like that. Some don't pull at all but make a lot of noise, whilst others are the exact opposite and everything in between.
5) As above.

These are just examples of things that people often do or don't do when tickled, but none of them are a real 'giveaway' because people really don't react in the same way.

 

[DanJames]

Nika Venom. Asked her yesterday on a Q&A on instagram and she said now that she isn’t doing tickle content anymore she can reveal that she’s not ticklish at all.
Bit disappointing to hear, especially to those who have bought her content now feel a bit cheated.

 

[Iggy pop]

Nika Venom. Asked her yesterday on a Q&A on instagram and she said now that she isn’t doing tickle content anymore she can reveal that she’s not ticklish at all.
bit disappointing to hear, especially to those who have bought her content now feel a bit cheated.

She is far from the only one. Numerous models, after leaving the industry, have admitted to faking and exaggerating. In fact, I had one model confidentially tell me that it is pervasive throughout the industry. And while we call them models, in truth, they are really performers. They are not paid to be tickled, but instead, they are paid to be ticklish. They are there to sell you fantasy, so if you are looking for reality in a tickling video, then you are going to be disappointed.

 

[jklopez]

When it comes to the later Tickle Abuse tickling videos I just assumed all the women were ether faking or not very ticklish. I remember seeing the Nika Venom video and not being impressed. Not saying I'm a tickle expert, but her admitting to faking isn't surprising. I'm willing to bet all, if the most of the women, during that run on Tickle Abuse were faking.

But it makes me wonder? Are tickling videos the reason why so many guys with tickle fetishes believe attractive women aren't ticklish? Even when a woman admits to being ticklish, celebrity or otherwise, a lot of them just refuse to believe it. Maybe that's also the reason why so many seem to have extremely unrealistic expectations when it comes to how a ticklish person reacts to being tickled.

Fake tickling is hard to describe but you almost know it when you see it. Especially when you can compare within the same clips store.

 

[turtleboy]

She is far from the only one. Numerous models, after leaving the industry, have admitted to faking and exaggerating. In fact, I had one model confidentially tell me that it is pervasive throughout the industry. And while we call them models, in truth, they are really performers. They are not paid to be tickled, but instead, they are paid to be ticklish. They are there to sell you fantasy, so if you are looking for reality in a tickling video, then you are going to be disappointed.

That may well be true in parts of the industry but not all of it. Equally, it may be true of some productions but we don't all work in the same way. Models that are popular and are used by multiple companies whilst also producing their own customs, may bend to the needs of specific producers and fans if they're not ticklish enough. It's unfortunate that so many people seek to book certain models from the same pool, regardless of whether they're ticklish or not but that's the market for for you. Some of us do go out of our way to find and work with completely original models, however. I can safely say that acting skills have never been a requirement for anyone that I work with.

 

[Phineas]

http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?295703-quot-Fake-models-quot-bullshit

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Fun fact: brotherted was really insistent that Arch get a really ticklish model and torture the fuck out of her without a safeword. He finally obliged at the end of 2019 with "#sorrynotsorry", where Mari - an absolute stunner and ridiculously ticklish - breaks Mya's old record of fifteen minutes. Mari's entire shoot was done without a safeword; he's got her on camera insisting on going without.

I'll bet if you drop Arch a line and ask him how much #sorrynotsorry has sold, he's not going to have good news for you. IIRC he posted the preview here so it's not like the community didn't know about it. Y'all are as much a bunch of liars and fakes as the models you're so suspicious of.

Going by the reasoning I see here constantly, that video should have made millions. After all absolutely no one is making real content and that's all you guys claim to want, right?

 

[brotherted]

What are you talking about?

The complete post that I wrote in 2018 was this:

"Suggestion: Find out if there's a price you could pay her to agree to a no safe word session of a fixed length of time. She's an adult and has the absolute right to consent to that. If she did, you just might have a mega-hit of a video on your hands.
Just an idea for you.
Good luck."​

Note the words "Suggestion," "Find out if," "you just might have," and "just an idea." I posted nothing else in the thread but that.

Now, you summarize that 2018 post as me being "really insistent"? In what universe is that tone "really insistent"? I think we should just leave it to other readers to assess whether you're being accurate.

Maybe the problem with that video was absolutely no bondage? (She could have easily rolled off the couch at any moment.) Or maybe it was that while the video advertised as "No safe word," he announced a physical action she could take in lieu of a safe word that would mean exactly the same thing, making the no safe "word" a simple technicality?

The bigger picture here was even before May of 2018, free porn sites were drastically cutting into producers' revenue. That meant even the most brilliant, original idea has been struggling harder and harder to see revenue. We'll soon know if the latest Pornhub content purge changes that trajectory. But no, substituting a safe action for a safe word has absolutely nothing to do with the four sentences I wrote in 2018.

 

[butterflytickles]

Didn’t know all this since of tickle models was involved

Man I kinda wish I could fake it lol
I can’t fake jack shit, especially when it comes to tickling XD haha

 

[RavensFan52]

I honestly dont think about it much. Honestly who cares? When Im watching clips Im enjoying the fantasy of it. Some probablly are faking or over exaggerating. Im just just not doing a investigation of reactions while enjoying the clip. Lol. Im sure in regular porn the sex isnt always as good as the moaning sugest. Its all fantasy. Just loosen up and enjoy the clips!

 

[OmahaTickler]

I honestly dont think about it much. Honestly who cares? When Im watching clips Im enjoying the fantasy of it. Some probablly are faking or over exaggerating. Im just just not doing a investigation of reactions while enjoying the clip. Lol. Im sure in regular porn the sex isnt always as good as the moaning sugest. Its all fantasy. Just loosen up and enjoy the clips!

Indeed, though many who may buy clips don't want to admit, we're buying The Dream. No, not all are fakes. Few things in life are black and white---but if I see a clip, and she looks like she's ticklish, that's all I need. I don't need a sworn affidavit from the model to get my rocks off.

 

[Phineas]

Now, you summarize that 2018 post as me being "really insistent"? In what universe is that tone "really insistent"?

I'm not going to go dig them all up, but you've asked Arch a couple of times to do no-safeword videos. That, to me, counts as "really insistent". YMMV.

Maybe the problem with that video was absolutely no bondage? (She could have easily rolled off the couch at any moment.)

Oh wow, look at those goalposts go! It's never enough for you people, is it? I'm sure it's just a coincidence that every video producers put out have something wrong with them, practicality, safety, or logistics be damned.

If I show Arch this thread and ask him to do another video with Mari, same concept, no hairbrush, with bondage, will you be first in line to buy it?

 

[todd30]

not that I don't think some models fake it but when their laugh changes from when they first start doing clips to later on in their career. The snorting thing that Akira Lane and Nicole Oring do and Sahrye sometimes makes me think they might be embellishing for my benefit. By the way those are probably three of my all time favorite models ( especially Sahrye) and I buy all their content when availabe. I recall Tasha and way back Crystal White going from laughers to screamers in their videos. Probably by then they were burnt out on being tickled.

 

[brotherted]

I'm not going to go dig them all up, but you've asked Arch a couple of times to do no-safeword videos. That, to me, counts as "really insistent". YMMV.



Oh wow, look at those goalposts go! It's never enough for you people, is it? I'm sure it's just a coincidence that every video producers put out have something wrong with them, practicality, safety, or logistics be damned.

If I show Arch this thread and ask him to do another video with Mari, same concept, no hairbrush, with bondage, will you be first in line to buy it?

Let's summarize:
First, you assert I was "insistent," in a thread. When I prove my post was absolutely polite in the very thread you cited, you then assert there must be some other evidence out there somewhere of me being what you consider insistent.

Then, you say a certain video proves I was wrong about saying there is an audience for no safeword videos -- giving as evidence a video with a safe physical signal in place of a safe word. When called on that, you point to my different remark -- that no bondage was another problem with that video -- as me moving the "goalposts" -- omitting my answer about promoting a safe signal video as a "no safe word" video is dishonest. But even if we give the producer a pass on that, at an absolute minimum the commercial failure of a safe signal video certainly isn't some kind of evidence of lack of audience demand for a video where the 'lee has agreed in advance to be unable to stop the session.

Your response should've been "My bad." Not, a thought bubble of "I should quote something different he said critical of the video and make a goalpost-moving analogy."

 

[thenTo]

Ember Skye definitely comes to mind. She did a FTKL video where she was laughing like crazy but in the Laughingstocks videos tickling her feet turns her on like crazy lol.

 

[hiphophooray4]

I think where some might have doubts about some of the models faking or over-embelishing their laughter , is when they see a model laughing like a maniac in a video for one company, then awhile later on down the road they see the same model in a video for a different company with little to zero reaction.

 

[SoleMates]

I think where some might have doubts about some of the models faking or over-embelishing their laughter , is when they see a model laughing like a maniac in a video for one company, then awhile later on down the road they see the same model in a video for a different company with little to zero reaction.

I've had this happen to me in the inverse; a model who was lukewarm in another studio's clips was animated and reactive in mine. It's usually because some producers just aren't good at working with people or aren't skilled ticklers, so the model isn't in a ticklish mood and won't bust a gut over their shitty finger-tapping. You put them with someone they vibe with who actually knows what they're doing and it's a very different story.

Edited to add:

Following up on Phineas' comments to brotherted, I did eventually shoot a no-safeword video - with bondage - with Jennifer. Jennifer was one of my most popular models at the time and still sells pretty well today. The video was her idea. She said she could do 18 minutes; I set the clock for 20.

You all may now go make me rich, since this is what you all claim to want. Or, you can nitpick her reactions and psychoanalyze her about how she doesn't "laugh right" or whatever else you guys always do instead. Either way, I win.

https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/6...-no-mercy-iii-and-a-half-a-farewell-to-sanity