Why does everyone seem to hate guys?

[Mike757]

It seems like 99% of females into tickling/feet just have some deep hatred for males. What is the deal with that? Just because a few males are pervs doesn't mean that everyone is, nor does it mean that only males are pervs.

 

[Babyshambles]

It seems like 99% of females into tickling/feet just have some deep hatred for males. What is the deal with that? Just because a few males are pervs doesn't mean that everyone is, nor does it mean that only males are pervs.

Women are weird. Beautiful, but weird - with a weird fascination for shoes that has nothing to do with a sexual fetish? How many shoes do you need?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 

[giggle-maker]

Women are weird. Beautiful, but weird - with a weird fascination for shoes that has nothing to do with a sexual fetish? How many shoes do you need?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Yea! And girls with a shoe collection that think foot/shoe guys are weird....



we all know where I'm going with that!

 

[drew70]

For what it's worth, I don't feel the persecution you describe. I know a lot of guys get discouraged when they can't seem to make a connection happen. Give it time. Talk to the ladies and try to find out what interests them, and not just about tickling. They are worth getting to know.

 

[Excess]

Maybe it's cuz...

Alot of guys here ARE pervs? I mean it's a fetish site, so it has to be expected. Now granted, I would like to know more specifically how you mean. Like an example of these females that hate guys here. I have seen a few who definately seem to, although those could be men themselves. It sucks when the guys here who aren't total pervs only interested in lusting after a woman like an object get shunned because of those guys, but there's nothing you can do but show them that you aren't one of those guys. If they can't see that, they aren't worth your time imo.

 

[ObservingEgo]

Girls are bigger jerks than guys these days!! Be a man and stop being so damn needy and pushy with your foot fetish and you'd be surprised how much more respect you'll get.

Be aware of the terrain before you travel it too. So many of the women here aren't physically or mentally healthy, and they really don't like feet or they aren't aware of how pleasurable feet can be. Lots of those women don't get much male attention in real life, so they'll post photos of their feet and legs to gain that attention because majority of the men here like feet. How terrible!! You think maybe the idiot mods here would pick up on that and make a rule that stops women from posting photos of their legs and feet cuz the foot fetish guys are so sensitive.

If men have to be "respectful" by asking women to chat and refrain from making that chat stimulating, the women should have to be "respectful" of men and refrain from using their physical appearances to make the chat stimulating. This way the men and women can both be evenly angry at each other!!

The women aren't pissed because men are perverted... they're pissed because the men aren't perverted enough. SO stop believing that your sex drive is why women hate men because it isnt'!!! The rules on this forum go against everything that is required to get a woman.

 

[Babyshambles]

Alot of guys here ARE pervs? I mean it's a fetish site, so it has to be expected. Now granted, I would like to know more specifically how you mean. Like an example of these females that hate guys here. I have seen a few who definately seem to, although those could be men themselves. It sucks when the guys here who aren't total pervs only interested in lusting after a woman like an object get shunned because of those guys, but there's nothing you can do but show them that you aren't one of those guys. If they can't see that, they aren't worth your time imo.

ALL GUYS here are pervs. The only men who protest that they're not pervs, are those who's tactic for attracting women is to pretend that they're not pervs.

Or those who have a fulfilling life outside of this place. I'm willing to bet that not many true tickle fetishists lead sexually very fulfilling lives. But I may be wrong.

 

[gig1965]

dislike men?!?!?!????????!?!??!?!

Have NO idea what you're talkin about.

I've played with lots of ladies here and they all seem to like men in general......they just dislike a few in PARTICULAR.

 

[kis123]

Girls are bigger jerks than guys these days!! Be a man and stop being so damn needy and pushy with your foot fetish and you'd be surprised how much more respect you'll get.

Be aware of the terrain before you travel it too. So many of the women here aren't physically or mentally healthy, and they really don't like feet or they aren't aware of how pleasurable feet can be. Lots of those women don't get much male attention in real life, so they'll post photos of their feet and legs to gain that attention because majority of the men here like feet. How terrible!! You think maybe the idiot mods here would pick up on that and make a rule that stops women from posting photos of their legs and feet cuz the foot fetish guys are so sensitive.

If men have to be "respectful" by asking women to chat and refrain from making that chat stimulating, the women should have to be "respectful" of men and refrain from using their physical appearances to make the chat stimulating. This way the men and women can both be evenly angry at each other!!

The women aren't pissed because men are perverted... they're pissed because the men aren't perverted enough. SO stop believing that your sex drive is why women hate men because it isnt'!!! The rules on this forum go against everything that is required to get a woman.

You'll feel so much better once you restart your medications! So much for the mentally healty part of your above drivel!! You have serious problems that you should seek professional assistance. But those who need the help the most tend not to realize it until it's too late!

Rules are in place for a reason; you can't even go to a strip club for a lap dance without following rules.

Men should've already been raised to respect themselves; if they managed to learn that, they can respect women. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that salivating to a woman who just decided to take a pic of her feet and share it on a TICKLING AND FOOT FETISH SITE isn't exactly going to encourage an intelligent dialogue.

Whether some of you fellas like to hear this or not, the long-term relationships I've developed with guys on this forum were the ones who behaved like gentlemen. They introduced themselves in a PM and slowly built friendship by getting to know each other better. The ones who came in like a whirlwind with the perv crap only get deleted from my box.

And if anyone thinks this guy gets respect from women, do not delude yourselves!

 

[tickles]

...You mention women hate men with tickle/feet fetishes......If you are talking about the women here......I'm not sure I've seen the evidence of the majority of women here saying that. If you mean other women, I agree with Drew....maybe you aren't subtly introducing your foot fetish.

 

[Redmage]

Well, first off I have to say that I haven't noticed any deep-seated misandry in most women who enjoy this fetish. They've been as friendly as any other women in my experience.

I HAVE noticed that most women dislike clueless guys - the men who speak to a woman's breasts (or feet) instead of her face, who treat women as life-support systems for the parts they care about, or who insist on sharing their fetish when it's not appropriate or wanted.

If you're running into a lot of angry women, then that might be a clue to something in you that's making them angry - something having nothing to do with your gender.

 

[minerva]

A woman a lot into tickling here and I definitely don't have any deep hatred for males - as a matter of fact, I actually like them 🙂 - unless they give me reason not to 😉

I'd really be interested what kind of experiences made to you write this post.
Without knowing your story, I'd also guess, that most women simply react according to the way they are approached 😉

 

[method11236]

method11236 says something equally insightful and insensitive, and of course, the funniest thing ever written on the subject.


-method11236

 

[nylonsnfeet]

The fact that you are 18 explains some of it. Young & impatient.
1. Ask yourself how you come across: what you say, how you say it.
2. Relax, be patient
3. Always, ALWAYS be a GENTLEMAN!
Raised 2 sons, now 29 & 27. I used these on them.

 

[Sandrock74]

It's just because a lot of the "women" in chats are really guys. No biggie.
I thought everyone realized that?

 

[Anna6-9]

Well, first off I have to say that I haven't noticed any deep-seated misandry in most women who enjoy this fetish. They've been as friendly as any other women in my experience.

I HAVE noticed that most women dislike clueless guys - the men who speak to a woman's breasts (or feet) instead of her face, who treat women as life-support systems for the parts they care about, or who insist on sharing their fetish when it's not appropriate or wanted.

If you're running into a lot of angry women, then that might be a clue to something in you that's making them angry - something having nothing to do with your gender.

Exactly what I would have said! Some could confuse some of my posts as a woman that doesnt like men but thats not me. We just want to be respected and not feel like the fox in the big hunt.

 

[labgirl73]

i personally haven't posted much, but i've been reading here for some time and i must say i haven't seen any deep-seated hatred for any gender in particular.

i've also received personal messages which i've responded to respectfully. i'm pretty sure of that as they've responded back in kind. so i'm trying to figure out what exactly the original poster is referring to.

it's probably an approach issue. you'll find some who appreciate your approach and some who don't. that's life, you'll keep doing what you do, or you'll change it for a better response.

 

[Coda]

Some women might be susceptible to that kind of sexist stereotyping, but I think 99% is an exaggeration.

(I'm so good at subtle ironic humour! And then pointing it out! <I>Subtle!!</I>)

 

[Babyshambles]

The fact that you are 18 explains some of it. Young & impatient.
1. Ask yourself how you come across: what you say, how you say it.
2. Relax, be patient
3. Always, ALWAYS be a GENTLEMAN!
Raised 2 sons, now 29 & 27. I used these on them.

Young and impatient

Ask yourself how you come across to women? Do you seem poor - is there a way of seeming richer than you are? Do you seem unimportant - is there any way of seeming more important than you actually are?

Money? Do you have lots of it? You're not going to be able to buy a lot of chocolate and shoes with pennies. Get yourself rich. All girls love rich guys.

Do you look as though you have a small penis? That's bad. Next time you're wooing that girl of your dreams, stick a dildo down your pants.....you'll either get lucky, or arrested for indecent exposure.

Always be a gentleman - however, women get bored by gentleman in the end. Slap her on the bottom and call her a *****. See how far you get. Probably not very far. Don't do any of that. Joke, tease etc.

Women are selfishly designed to look for the man that will please her the most. Tell her she's beautiful 20 times a day and your on your way.

PS - from what i've seen of many of the girls on here - they are not my cup of tea. Apart from girls like isabeau. But she's too old. And Ticklishgiggle, but that's not gonna happen, especially since she didn't respond to this private message: -

"Word up Bitch,

I've got lots and lots of money, and a really important job. I'm so friggin' great in every way. In fact, I want to buy you lots of shoes and chocolate.

Shall I compare thee to a summers day? Get on a plane and come to England and I may.

Did I ever tell you about my large penis? It's quite big you know.

Now get the ironing done!!!

BS"

If that doesn't work - what will




























(disclaimer for the easily offended and Americans - the above was meant in jest and should not be taken seriously by anyone)

 

[Babyshambles]

You'll feel so much better once you restart your medications! So much for the mentally healty part of your above drivel!! You have serious problems that you should seek professional assistance. But those who need the help the most tend not to realize it until it's too late!

Rules are in place for a reason; you can't even go to a strip club for a lap dance without following rules.

Men should've already been raised to respect themselves; if they managed to learn that, they can respect women. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that salivating to a woman who just decided to take a pic of her feet and share it on a TICKLING AND FOOT FETISH SITE isn't exactly going to encourage an intelligent dialogue.

Whether some of you fellas like to hear this or not, the long-term relationships I've developed with guys on this forum were the ones who behaved like gentlemen. They introduced themselves in a PM and slowly built friendship by getting to know each other better. The ones who came in like a whirlwind with the perv crap only get deleted from my box.

And if anyone thinks this guy gets respect from women, do not delude yourselves!

Kinda proves my point in one respect. Women are HIGH maintenance and needy. Kis as a woman would not consider speaking with a guy that PM'd her and tried to build a friendship too quickly. She would disregard him. What if he was a great guy but not sure how to start a PM? What if that rushed, or Pervy seeming PM was what he thought you wanted. She interprets messages and advances from men and dismisses many. This is rational. Women are advanced by many men. They haven't got the time of energy to spend on every person. They have to be choosy. Women are choosy.

Women are in the strong position. Men want women more than women want men. That is true. Men want lots of women more than women want lots of men. That is perhaps more pertinent.

Interesingly, consider this social economics experiment...

10 men
10 women

They are asked to pair off and every couple gets £100 ($200) real money. Easy, everyone can find somebody. The couples will likely split the money 50-50 so that every man and every women gets £50. So far so goof.

Now, lets change things a bit.

9 men
10 women

Does this matter? It seems to be significant

Suddenly everyone pairs up, leaving a girl by herself. How horrible for her. Now, every couple still gets £100. Will each man and woman in the couple split the money 50-50 as shown below: -

Couple 1 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 2 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 3 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 4 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 5 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 6 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 7 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 8 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 9 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Lonely woman (£0)

Probably not. Lonely woman is getting nothing. Maybe she'll go to one of the guys and say, "...choose me. If you do, I'll only ask for £20, meaning you get £80. We both win!!"

So that's what happens, leaving

Couple 1 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 2 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 3 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 4 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 5 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 6 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 7 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 8 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 9 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
New Lonely woman (£0)

Now the new lonely women is losing out on £50!!! And she's been dumped by her guy. So now, maybe she decides that £20 is better than nothing and goes to one of the guys and tries to strike a deal and the following might happen: -

Couple 1 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 2 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 3 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 4 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 5 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 6 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 7 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 8 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 9 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
New Lonely woman (£0)

The new lonely women continue to act in this fashion until you get something like this: -

Couple 1 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 2 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 3 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 4 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 5 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 6 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 7 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 8 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 9 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
New Lonely woman (£0)

The new lonely women may decide that £10 is better than nothing and a new deal arises, until eventually all men get £99.99 and 9 women get 1p and 1 woman gets absolutely nothing!!!!

Interesting how just a slightly bigger number of women leads to a big advantage for men. Now consider the TMF. There is not just 10% more women. There is probably 95% more women. They are in a HUGE bargaining postion. They get a LOT more at the expense of men.

That probably explains the balance.

 

[kis123]

Kinda proves my point in one respect. Women are HIGH maintenance and needy. Kis as a woman would not consider speaking with a guy that PM'd her and tried to build a friendship too quickly. She would disregard him. What if he was a great guy but not sure how to start a PM? What if that rushed, or Pervy seeming PM was what he thought you wanted. She interprets messages and advances from men and dismisses many. This is rational. Women are advanced by many men. They haven't got the time of energy to spend on every person. They have to be choosy. Women are choosy.

Women are in the strong position. Men want women more than women want men. That is true. Men want lots of women more than women want lots of men. That is perhaps more pertinent.

Interesingly, consider this social economics experiment..

No, actually women don't need men the way they used to. They have their own jobs, houses, cars. They don't need a man to provide to them and that gives them the power of choice that seemingly you and many (not all) men seem to hate. So in a way, women are in the strongest position they've ever been in. That doesn't wipe away millions of years of history where women weren't even treated as useful as domesticated animals, but then again.........

And you're right on another level; I won't deal with a man who comes on as some sex-crazed, lust-filled, out of control a-hole who wants to fantasize using me as a ticklle toy he can jack off to! What self-respecting woman would want that?

How about him ASKING what I want instead of assuming it? Any man that assumes they know what I want without asking me comes off as domineering, controlling and manipulative. And he's still a creepy disgusting perv in my book!

There's a right and wrong way to do everything; come correct and approach a woman respectfully! You wouldn't do that to a woman face-to-face, cyberspace ettiquete works here too.

And I'm a far cry from high maintenance and needy; I don't wait for a man to do a thing for me. Once I left my husband, I got more accomplished on my own and it just keeps getting better and better for me in my world!

 

[Babyshambles]

No, actually women don't need men the way they used to. They have their own jobs, houses, cars. They don't need a man to provide to them and that gives them the power of choice that seemingly you and many (not all) men seem to hate. So in a way, women are in the strongest position they've ever been in. That doesn't wipe away millions of years of history where women weren't even treated as useful as domesticated animals, but then again.........

And you're right on another level; I won't deal with a man who comes on as some sex-crazed, lust-filled, out of control a-hole who wants to fantasize using me as a ticklle toy he can jack off to! What self-respecting woman would want that?

How about him ASKING what I want instead of assuming it? Any man that assumes they know what I want without asking me comes off as domineering, controlling and manipulative. And he's still a creepy disgusting perv in my book!

There's a right and wrong way to do everything; come correct and approach a woman respectfully! You wouldn't do that to a woman face-to-face, cyberspace ettiquete works here too.

And I'm a far cry from high maintenance and needy; I don't wait for a man to do a thing for me. Once I left my husband, I got more accomplished on my own and it just keeps getting better and better for me in my world!

Why are some people in society allowed to be victims. Your thread is a thinly veiled attack on men - they're bastards that hold women back, don't know how to act around women and are pervs - and I apparently hate independent women. Because at 23 all my years of oppressing women before they started to get jobs has left be unable to react to the changing world. Much better when women were in the kitchen doing the irnoning hey fellas??

I'm not calling you a victim. I think feminists are a little bit. Move on. Life can be good.

 

[kis123]

Why are some people in society allowed to be victims. Your thread is a thinly veiled attack on men - they're bastards that hold women back, don't know how to act around women and are pervs - and I apparently hate independent women. Because at 23 all my years of oppressing women before they started to get jobs has left be unable to react to the changing world. Much better when women were in the kitchen doing the irnoning hey fellas??

I'm not calling you a victim. I think feminists are a little bit. Move on. Life can be good.

Who told you I was a feminist? There you go again in your myriad of assumptions about me and women in general. At 23, you know little about women which is why you're in the situation you're in.

I never said all men are bastards; just some of them because they're self centered and disrespect women. Oh and at 23, women were becoming independent long before you were born!

And at nearly twice your age sweetheart, my life IS good!

Babyshambles, where in the hell do you get this stuff from? Back away from the computer and socialize with some female company. You been in cyberspace much too long.

 

[Babyshambles]

Who told you I was a feminist? There you go again in your myriad of assumptions about me and women in general. At 23, you know little about women which is why you're in the situation you're in.

I never said all men are bastards; just some of them because they're self centered and disrespect women. Oh and at 23, women were becoming independent long before you were born!

Babyshambles, where in the hell do you get this stuff from? Back away from the computer and socialize with some female company. You been in cyberspace much too long.

You could start an arguement in an empty bar - you know that

 

[kis123]

You could start an arguement in an empty bar - you know that

I saw you try to pick an argument in an empty thread! Notice I didn't respond to the bait either!