Why is it ok to have discussions about animals and tickling?

[Oddjob0226]

Animal licking was used in history for tickling. Kinky people take history and run with it (rape fantasies and prisoner of war scenarios are also pretty common behind closed doors, so there is certainly a precedence for "Is this legal"? already. There is also the continued debate about giving up consent vs. defying or forcing conscent in a scene or lifestyle).

In my state, if the police wanted to be jerks about it, you could be arrested for conscentually tying someone up. The charges wouldn't stick, but that wouldn't stop a good, sensitive Baptist brother in blue from taking you downtown if he didn't opprove of whatever he stumbled upon that might match false imprisonment criteria.

That further establishes that there are people outside the kink world who think we are weird in general, anyway, animals or not, so it makes sense that people aren't going to completely agree on everything they read about on a website about a vague topic they generally have in common.

 

[mariowuitomari]

Why do you want a detailed explanation?

This thread is due to a thread that I wrote asking if people had had any experience with animals AND I wrote a clarification in the post what I was referring to. Only experiences related to animals licking skin as you can see in some tickling video companies like tickling paradise.

I don't know why people have to apologize for giving an opinion. This is a forum where people can express freeley. If you don't like any thread you have several options.

First option. Speak to the person who wrote the thread in order to express your disappointment.
Second. You can write to the moderators and ask them to delete the post if something ilegal is happening.
Three. Leave out this forum.

I am not going to apologize because it is my right to express freely. If you have problems with that. Go.

This post is not written in a bad tone only want to express my opinion.

 

[mariowuitomari]

Why do you want a detailed explanation?

And obviously I am going to write all threads I want to write about the the topics I want to.

 

[tickletherapist]

Why do you want a detailed explanation?

Sorry, but why have you started this thread then if you don't want to discuss or explain anything?

 

[CapturedDoll]

I don't think he was trying to control you. More then likely he was just pointing out that the people apologized for disturbing you, as it was likely not there intent. One of your posts suggested you believed that people posted what they did with malicious intent, which given the starting post of this thread, seems a little strange. Kind'a like a vegetarian starting a thread asking people why they like meat, and then when people respond, saying that they were intentionally trying to offend you.

I have to ask, what are you trying to do with the thread? Are you just venting about the use of animals in this particular fetish, (which is of course, fine), or are you trying to ask a question and better understand or take in some different view points on the reasons why animals may be used in this particular manner in stories and videos?

I originally asked why is this subject matter tolerated here. Not, why or why not people may or may be into this. I also pointed out that while I would understand different furs being discussed... it doesn't make sense to just talk about animals and their overal experiences being tickled by them. That is gross to me. And I guess I have to further go on to say imho it falls under beastility. No, no ones fucking the animal... but they ARE being used FOR a sexual act.

See, when I have my feet tickled its a turn on. So if someone would ask me "Hey Doll, you want me to put a couple cats by your feet?" The answer would not only be HELL NO, I would say untie me I'm leaving.

 

[CapturedDoll]

Sorry, but why have you started this thread then if you don't want to discuss or explain anything?

Maybe I should have said I was not looking for a lengthy discussion. "Why is this tolerated"

Random non existant answer: "I have no idea". Would have made more sense than most of these replies.

 

[CapturedDoll]

Animal licking was used in history for tickling. Kinky people take history and run with it (rape fantasies and prisoner of war scenarios are also pretty common behind closed doors, so there is certainly a precedence for "Is this legal"? already. There is also the continued debate about giving up consent vs. defying or forcing conscent in a scene or lifestyle).

In my state, if the police wanted to be jerks about it, you could be arrested for conscentually tying someone up. The charges wouldn't stick, but that wouldn't stop a good, sensitive Baptist brother in blue from taking you downtown if he didn't opprove of whatever he stumbled upon that might match false imprisonment criteria.

That further establishes that there are people outside the kink world who think we are weird in general, anyway, animals or not, so it makes sense that people aren't going to completely agree on everything they read about on a website about a vague topic they generally have in common.

Yes, and everything you just wrote about I know of. I know animals have been used in tickling history. And in movies. And I live in a state where - well I would talk about here BDSM and Domestic Violence laws but I'm not up on anything current. Nor do I want to reveal publicly where I live. But yes I know.

 

[CapturedDoll]

I don't know why anyone should judge another on this site. Doll, I could easily find a hundred women that would feel a woman stroking her pussy with a feather on the internet gross. I find your offerings insanely hot but there are many out there wouldn't.
Lets face it a hungry animal gets to eat and a freak.....
Who writes the rules here!
Ahh Salute!

People judge each other every single day whether its on this site, anywhere else on the internet, or in life. From our beauty, our knowledge, our food to everything in between and beyond. Its how we perceive something does or doesn't have value in our lives. Judgement helps us survive. Differentiate who makes a good partner vs who doesn't to fit our lives. It's one of our basic, primal extincts. When Cavemen and Women hunted... they had to judge food - was it safe to eat? Was a path safe? Will a man be a good provider, will a woman provide healthy children to continue ones genes. We have not lost that instinct and never will. And I will continue to be judged on my looks, my content, threads, and whatever else you can think of. Thats life. And its part of life that I make judgements too. Sorry, if that makes
me strange within this group. lol

 

[Cosmo_ac]

I originally asked why is this subject matter tolerated here. Not, why or why not people may or may be into this. I also pointed out that while I would understand different furs being discussed... it doesn't make sense to just talk about animals and their overal experiences being tickled by them. That is gross to me. And I guess I have to further go on to say imho it falls under beastility. No, no ones fucking the animal... but they ARE being used FOR a sexual act.

See, when I have my feet tickled its a turn on. So if someone would ask me "Hey Doll, you want me to put a couple cats by your feet?" The answer would not only be HELL NO, I would say untie me I'm leaving.

Ok, fair enough. If I had to guess why it's tolerated here, it would probably be that most people don't see it as beastiality (though some might very well see it as gross). As you pointed out, the animals are not sexually engaged. The animals are simply a tool, a means of administering tickling. If this harmed the animals, I imagine there would certainly be a more negative view about this subject. Generally speaking, they aren't harmed though, so it likely falls into the category of "If you don't like it, then don't do it", just like the subject of m/m tickling, and f/f tickling sometimes falls into.

 

[CapturedDoll]

And you all can nit pick everything I write within this thread to death if you so wish. But I don't understand why its so important to do so. You would rather nit pick me than nit pick people into this?! That's weird to me. But if we have to agree to disagree on that so be it. I certainly had to accept this goes in my own fetish community. It doesn't mean I have to like it. And it doesn't mean I have to talk to people who do.

 

[CapturedDoll]

Ok, fair enough. If I had to guess why it's tolerated here, it would probably be that most people don't see it as beastiality (though some might very well see it as gross). As you pointed out, the animals are not sexually engaged. The animals are simply a tool, a means of administering tickling. If this harmed the animals, I imagine there would certainly be a more negative view about this subject. Generally speaking, they aren't harmed though, so it likely falls into the category of "If you don't like it, then don't do it", just like the subject of m/m tickling, and f/f tickling sometimes falls into.

Well actually fish are. The ones that are used for pedicures. I have posted a link last year from the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta on that. I can refind it it and start a new thread on that if you so wish. But I'd just rather not. It's available and easily searched for.

Aside from that, no animals are not being hurt. I just find it repulsive. Morally, sexually, and beyond that no... I don't have ground to stand on beyond my own personal convictions.

 

[GirlMeetsTickle]

Just wondering, how would you feel about someone who, say, has a pet chimpanzee and tickles him/or her as part of play? Just briefly. Not like prolonged. Would it depend on whether the owner is getting sexual thrills from it? Is that what you're saying?

Thanks

 

[CapturedDoll]

Just wondering, how would you feel about someone who, say, has a pet chimpanzee and tickles him/or her as part of play? Just briefly. Not like prolonged. Would it depend on whether the owner is getting sexual thrills from it? Is that what you're saying?

Thanks

I myself have tried to tickle my own dogs over the years just to see if they would smile or have a reaction. 2 or 3 of times per dog maybe? Not to continuously see it or keep doing it. There are people out there that would call that abuse. I don't but at the same time I don't feel its right to keep trying to do it either. And I don't feel a need to ask a Vet either way. But monkeys seem to enjoy it. But... that leads me straight into captivity issues of which are volumes.

Theres currently debates going around that involves hugging. Should animals be hugged? Most experts are finding that no they should not be. They exhibit signs of stress. I keep up on a lot of this but not all. I am also not claiming to be an expert on any animal on this planet either.

And the videos that go around of seeing animals tickled I try to avoid. I've seen some and they just usually creep me out.

 

[CapturedDoll]

This thread is due to a thread that I wrote asking if people had had any experience with animals AND I wrote a clarification in the post what I was referring to. Only experiences related to animals licking skin as you can see in some tickling video companies like tickling paradise.

I don't know why people have to apologize for giving an opinion. This is a forum where people can express freeley. If you don't like any thread you have several options.

First option. Speak to the person who wrote the thread in order to express your disappointment.
Second. You can write to the moderators and ask them to delete the post if something ilegal is happening.
Three. Leave out this forum.

I am not going to apologize because it is my right to express freely. If you have problems with that. Go.

This post is not written in a bad tone only want to express my opinion.

Well, your post DID trigger my post. But I never went into yours. I don't want to. But... do you think you're the first person to make a post about this?

Obviously this subject IS tolerated here. That much is clear. I was just wondering WHY. So make 10,000 posts about it if you so wish.

 

[mariowuitomari]

I honestly find being tickled by an animal quite disturbing and actually really gross. I don't feel that's what an animal should be for nor should it be its intentions. Animals are animals not something to use as tool for our own gain in my opinion

If you dont force animals why is it disturbing?? Imagine that you have and angry dog and you give him/her food over the feet of a ticklish person. I mean what is disturbing or not is very relative. The majority of vanilla people who read the message of this forum would think that we are absolutely mad and even they would think that we are possessed by Lucifer (Ouhh wait maybe someone religious appear and feel disturbed). Nobody has spoken about fucking a cat or a dog. Nobody has spoken about forcing an animal behaviour. I don't know what happen with the stupid animal morality.

NOBODY HAS TO APOLOGIZED FOR GIVING A PERSONAL OPINION.

 

[mariowuitomari]

I would like to say that people here are speaking about animal intentions. Intentions???? Really??? Please, do you think animals have intentions?
Following the same argument exposed, when you go with your dogs for a walk and you carry him with a dog leash are you taking into account intention? Maybe we have to assume that the animal want to be free and walk without leash because the real intention of the dog is to be free.

Sorry but I hate contradictions and stupidity.

 

[Vanillaphant]

I think this kind of thing can be cruel. Like if they use Justin's Peanut Butter instead of Skippy or Jif. I mean, hasn't the poor animal suffered enough indignity without being made to chow down on that inferior muck! Talk about kicking a goat while he's down. Monsters!

(Just try'na lighten the mood, folks - don't mind me.)

 

[CapturedDoll]

NOBODY HAS TO APOLOGIZED FOR GIVING A PERSONAL OPINION.

Correct. But the sword cuts both ways. I don't have to either. Neither does Dragon. No one does. About any subject. Ever. Did someone here ask you to give me or anyone an apology? I know I didn't. Why would I? If anything its the animals that deserve an apology not us. But thats just my opinion.

 

[mariowuitomari]

Correct. But the sword cuts both ways. I don't have to either. Neither does Dragon. No one does. About any subject. Ever. Did someone here ask you to give me or anyone an apology? I know I didn't. Why would I? If anything its the animals that deserve an apology not us. But thats just my opinion.

No. Obviously you didn´t ask me to give an apologize but I don't understand why has anybody to give you an apologize because you feel disturbed for something. I mean, I think it is really stupid to give someone an apologize if that person wrote a personal opinion with no bad bad intention. When you open this thread people gave an opinion until you showed your dissapointment. Then, those people started to apologize for writting their point of view. I mean, folks can do what they wants but this is a forum and it is really sad this situation.

I remark waht I said. If a topics is disturbing for people moderators will have to stablish new rules but they are what have to control it. This forum has the option of making surveys.

 

[CapturedDoll]

No. Obviously you didn´t ask me to give an apologize but I don't understand why has anybody to give you an apologize because you feel disturbed for something. I mean, I think it is really stupid to give someone an apologize if that person wrote a personal opinion with no bad bad intention.

Again- I never asked for an apology. If people feel some desire to apologize to me ok but forgiveness is something that I don't feel the need to give. Here how about this. Please, no one apologize to me. There truly is no reason to.

When you open this thread people gave an opinion until you showed your dissapointment. Then, those people started to apologize for writting their point of view. I mean, folks can do what they wants but this is a forum and it is really sad this situation.

But I never asked for an opinion. I figured there was actual, factual legal reasons why this was ok. Apparantly there isn't. Grey areas + opinions. It's pretty much what I assumed already but I wanted a clearer picture. Oh well.

I remark waht I said. If a topics is disturbing for people moderators will have to stablish new rules but they are what have to control it. This forum has the option of making surveys.

I'm not asking the moderators to make new rules to suit my comfort levels. Never did, never would. I trust Myriads and TMFJeff. I assumed this had pretty much already been dealt with multiple times over. Yet another reason why I didn't feel the need to make a long winded post. Short, and to the point. I could have mailed one of them but I assume they're busy and I'm mindful of that. Why ask them when I can ask all of you?

 

[GirlMeetsTickle]

I myself have tried to tickle my own dogs over the years just to see if they would smile or have a reaction. 2 or 3 of times per dog maybe? Not to continuously see it or keep doing it. There are people out there that would call that abuse. I don't but at the same time I don't feel its right to keep trying to do it either. And I don't feel a need to ask a Vet either way. But monkeys seem to enjoy it. But... that leads me straight into captivity issues of which are volumes.

Theres currently debates going around that involves hugging. Should animals be hugged? Most experts are finding that no they should not be. They exhibit signs of stress. I keep up on a lot of this but not all. I am also not claiming to be an expert on any animal on this planet either.

And the videos that go around of seeing animals tickled I try to avoid. I've seen some and they just usually creep me out.

Aww, I would never think hugging an animal would cause them stress 🙁 I've never had a pet, but snuggling up with family and friends' dogs and hugging them and wrestling around with them seems to be something they quite enjoy. When I come to visit they zoom right over and wanna play. I guess I can't know for sure...but they certainly don't flee or recoil. They welcome it, and if I stop playing they'll whimper and give me little nudges until I keep playing and giving them attention 😀

 

[CapturedDoll]

Aww, I would never think hugging an animal would cause them stress 🙁 I've never had a pet, but snuggling up with family and friends' dogs and hugging them and wrestling around with them seems to be something they quite enjoy. When I come to visit they zoom right over and wanna play. I guess I can't know for sure...but they certainly don't flee or recoil. They welcome it, and if I stop playing they'll whimper and give me little nudges until I keep playing and giving them attention 😀

It's going to take years more research but I think it ultimately varies from dog to dog. Animal to animal. But not breed to breed. I don't know.

But yeah I would really missing hugging dogs too. 🙂 And I would love to hug a monkey but I am afraid I'll encounter the one that tries to take my face off. And that would suck.

 

[GirlMeetsTickle]

It's going to take years more research but I think it ultimately varies from dog to dog. Animal to animal. But not breed to breed. I don't know.

But Yeah I would really missing hugging dogs too. 🙂

Ok, I'm reading up on it. Just as I could've guessed. The dogs can interpret it as a sign of dominance, and it immobilizes them, making them anxious, and this is indicated since dogs have been shown to bite humans when hugged? Alright. Well, I wouldn't miss it if I knew they didn't want it 🙁

 

[CapturedDoll]

Ok, I'm reading up on it. Just as I could've guessed. The dogs can interpret it as a sign of dominance, and it immobilizes them, making them anxious, and this is indicated since dogs have been shown to bite humans when hugged? Alright. Well, I wouldn't miss it if I knew they didn't want it 🙁

I'm happy you looked this up. 🙂
I would miss it but I definitely want whats best for them. 🙂 But the missing part lessens itself when I think I ever could have done wrong by them.

 

[GirlMeetsTickle]

I'm happy you looked this up. 🙂
I would miss it but I definitely want whats best for them. 🙂 But the missing part lessens itself when I think I ever could have done wrong by them.

Aww. It's like the way I have no interest in tickling someone who doesn't want it. I only enjoy if they're enjoyin' themselves 🙂