Why?!?Men are mean!

[maverick83]

If I may humbly interject, I really don't think anyone was attacking you, simply explaining the situation. A difference of opinion is not necessarily an attack.

 

[PunKyGurl]

I didn't say anyone was attacking me, what I meant was that people were making it a big deal when it's not.

 

[vampyr]

That is exactly why I prefer being tickled by women. With men it is a whole domination thing and they get so serious about being in total control that they can go overboard very easily and forget about the woman (victim). The one and only time I ever tried to tickle a boyfriend he punched me and broke my nose! Never again!

 

[His Divine Shadow]

Calm thyselves. LOL, PunKyGurl, I've noticed that sometimes people get really into a topic and I mean REALLY into it, and have VERY strong opinions on the subject. It's not an attack or meant in a bad way, it's just the way people sometimes are. Don't kill 'em, we need our members. 😛

 

[PunKyGurl]

see there you go making me the bad guy HDS, I'm NOT! geeez!

 

[His Divine Shadow]

I wasn't, I swear! 😛 Just diffusing the tension.


Don't hurt me.....I'm fragile. 😛

 

[maverick83]

Fair enough. Even so, I'd say they're just trying to add their thoughts in hopes of clearing the apparent confusion.

corruptress: You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I can assure you that not all men are driven by, or for that matter, even concerned with domination. About that incident, did he punch you intentionally, or accidentally? If accidentally, I'd say it was a very unfortunate mistake, and certainly grounds for at least an apology from him, but not something to hold a grudge about. If intentionally, he was most likely a somewhat violent individual. With that type of person, a reaction like that can come from just about anything, and is certainly not limited to a response to tickling.

 

[alf1]

That is exactly why I prefer being tickled by women. With men it is a whole domination thing and they get so serious about being in total control that they can go overboard very easily and forget about the woman (victim). The one and only time I ever tried to tickle a boyfriend he punched me and broke my nose! Never again!

Disagree on that point Lady.......it is not a whole domination at all ( mostly i can agree ) My tickling experiences were playful and kind ( no bound and so on ) switching tickling was not a problem.........hey you got your nose broken that is really unreal !!!!!! Sad indeed.........some people are really small minded, sorry for you.
And Punky Gurl hi by the way 🙂
I would also be glad to talk with people here but the chatroom is often empty, and is mainly for tickling discussion. It would be nice as you said to talk of others things ( just talking about tickling would be really boring by the way ) so i discuss just with one member here on msn. I saw others have put their msn adresses and so on, but do not want to chat all sadly.
I hope that i have well understand the thread subject 🙂 and my response is accepted........otherwise......oh i do not even imagine what could happen LOL !!!!!!!!!

 

[NG021]

The reason that we guys do that is that to some guys it kind of makes them feel likethey have controlover a person and its kind of a male trait to be the dominant one adn be alittle rough sometimes

 

[tummynavelboy]

PunkyGurl non of us are making you feel like the bad guy errr bad Girl hehe. you just think we are! Why does most people (Not all but Most) jump to concluesions online anyways? Lets just drop this thread so nobody more will get hurt and feel attacked or unhappy over this

Thank you

 

[PunKyGurl]

I am far from hurt Belly I am just annoyed

 

[Kalamos]

If it isn't fun for both parties, it's likely you won't be tickling that 'lee again.

That's the point. 🙂
That old boring thing about... mutual respect. 😀

That's why now, as an "adult", I try to keep my "enthusiasm" under control. 🙂
Nobody wants to be brought before a court! 😀 😀 😀


Now, PunkyGurl wasn't just speaking of real conduct. She probably resented the whole spirit.
The idea of kidnapping a woman and tickling her senseless [so common in many stories and pics] makes her unconfortable - and, honestly, sometimes makes me as well.
These kinds of fantasy come closer to harassment, in her, our, minds, so we find them [more or less] disturbing.

BUT they are fantasies.
And when we speak of sex, anything goes between consenting adults.


As much as we find some aspects of this fetish unwholesome to us [big word, I know, but bear with me], we should accept them as part of the picture, as some ppl find them fascinating.
Censoring contents is often bad; exercising caution and free will [to just close the offending site] is advised.

Maybe drawing a line between acceptable and unacceptable fetish is necessary, but I don't feel up to the task; I can only throw in my two cents, and say I wouldn't miss some of the crueller stories or pics.
But that's MY taste and choice, and I wouldn't want somebody with clashing tastes dictate over what I can see and I cannot. 🙂


Now, this what you get when old Kal man goes out of control: a pointless longwinded blurb with no real sense in it.

Keep tickling your partners but don't hurt them or I'll get ya! 😀

Reg's, ppl.

 

[vampyr]

.........hey you got your nose broken that is really unreal !!!!!! Sad indeed.........some people are really small minded, sorry for you.

Yeah but now I am the one who has to go through life looking like Barbra Streisand, what a terrible fate!
The circumstances were simply this, I reached over and rib tickled him for about 2 seconds and he whirled around and POW! Hello instant cosmetic surgery. Now when the tables were turned, that is when he was tickling me, it would go on for what felt like forever and I know he came in his pants more than once. Not so bad since he brought me to orgasm too. My complaint is when I tried to switch roles he reacted so violently.
We broke up soon after that incident. Later I found out he just could not keep a steady girlfriend because he was major league unstable.

 

[Drago691]

I could never tickle someone unless they were ok with it. I am too much of a pussy for that 😀 I would only tickle for as long as the person can stand it.

Can't wait to get the chance to actually do it, hehe.

 

[Tklpro1]

Okay, I see this a lot and really I don't like it. Why is it that you guys have to go so far and intense when it comes to tickling us girls? I know some of you girls like it, but some don't. Like me for example, I like to be playful sometimes, you guys are just too rough!You big lot of bullies! :tounge:

Ok, back to answering your question. There are two parts to this answer and I hope I make sense.

First, for all intents and purposes, for fetishists, you should relate the act of tickling directly to the act of having sex. For many ticklers, tickling is sexual. Tickl-ERS are ticklers and not LEES because they are dominat types. Most people who have had sex know that the dominant sex partner is usually the one who is most aggressive. Most dominants like a strong reaction because it strokes the ego that you can bend this person to your will with your irresistable lovin!! Think of it this way: how many dominants (men usually) say "Man would I like to f**k her really lightly!"? Men also have this thing called testosterone (you have probably heard of it!) which naturally makes him very aggresive as the levels get higher.

The second facet of this is that fetishes by nature are geared toward some type of extraordinary, unusual form of control, which accentuates the sense of dominance because the dominant type can experience a form of domination that takes the submissive completely past the realm of having reaction to a classic type of stimulus, such as sex, and making the submissive react to something that would not normally be introduced in that person's life. The ability to elicit a strong reaction in a completely unique, controlling way is VERY attractive to a dominant fetishist. So now the dominant, testosterone driven, sexually aroused male is pumping that stimuli as if he were pumping his sexual organ! He's the puppeteer, forcing this person into a state that would normally not be seen by anyone and soaking up the kinky reactions, like a sponge soaks up water. Hope I'm not rambling...

So take these two facets into consideration and imagine the explosive sexual energy that builds up inside of a dominant tickler. Just as the sex act becomes more and more intense the harder it is performed, so is the act of attempting to tickle your submissive to make her "climax" and hopefully make the dominant climax with pleasure.

Or is that just me?

 

[nessonite1]

That was very well put Tklpro though I think it does represent a rather extreme form. 🙂 Certainly it's not like that for all 'lers but you did a fine job in explaining the importance of dominance in the life of a 'ler.

 

[drew70]

Here's my take for whatever it's worth.

I'm a lee, through and through. I like tickling from women in all levels of intensity. I love the light sensual tickling, and I dig the vicious tickle torture as well. Sometimes it depends on my mood, but more often than not, I'll take whatever's given to me. 🙂

Now, getting back to Enny's point about some guys being so intense about it. I think it's a valid concern, myself. Many of the Lers in these forums are true gentlemen, and will put the needs of the female lee before their own lust for torture. Unfortunately, there are guys who don't care about her needs or her well being. They only care about satisfying their own lust for seeing a woman in the throws of tickled torment, and reveling in the fact that they are the ones causing it. They are in my opinion, no different from rapists.

Enny also brings up another good point. While this is a tickling forum, it can get a little tedious to discuss all tickling, only tickling, and nothing but tickling. We all have other aspects to our lives that make us who we are. I'm glad for the occasional tangents and off-topic diversions. We're people after all, not just tickling machines.

I'll get off my soapbox now. I think it was Coast or Irish Spring. 🙂

 

[nessonite1]

I prefer Irish Spring myself. The blue kind, not the green.
But anyway Drew that was fantastic. Couldn't have said it better myself. 🙂

 

[PunKyGurl]

Well then I guess I really have no fetish because I do not use tickling for sexual purposes.

 

[Karst]

This topic is so insanely misguided.

First of all, the topic name is just "discusting" as the original poster likes to describe things. "Why?!?Men are mean!" is so closed-minded and it's obvious it wasn't put in a joking or sarcastic manner.

Second--when did this become such a status quo area of the internet? A lot of us are here because we sexual enjoy tickling...definitely not "normal" by any means. Another percentage is here because they enjoy tickling as a pasttime, which is again not "normal." The last stragglers are either undecided and looking for answers, or just like being around these types of people. Why do we, as ticklephiles, have to conform to real-life rules while on this forum? Anything should go here, being among other half-outcasts and people who are different from others in the same way you are. Non-consentual torture, or the ticklee agreeing to it, it should all be fine, whether you enjoy that particular facet of tickling or not. I don't like male/male tickling, but I don't go slandering it just because of that. A lot of common morals should be almost non-existant here because we're doing something considered amoral by a number of people.

And lastly, remember that this place is an escape. Guys come here to fantasize about torturing their girlfriends without consent and neverending, because they simply can't do that in real life, nor express those opinions to them. Let them be, whether they're sadists, weirdos, or different from you.

 

[PunKyGurl]

First off, I'm not judging anybody. It was a freakin question for christ sake! If you are not going to just answer it then don't post at all, I don't want to read your crap. I am not close minded, you don't know a damn thing about me to judge me and say that. And it was meant in a joking way, those of you that have your head up your butt get over it. I was trying to be playful. If I wasn't being playful then I would not have even put the smiley. I can think what I please, and if you have a problem with it and don't like it get over it. I could really care less what you people have to say or think about me because you don't know a thing really.

 

[toneus79]

I think what Punky Girl is partly trying to say (and what is the weakness of the TMF, where I post more often) is that it is hard to come across as real people, when all we can discuss is Tickling. This is one of the reasons why I give chatrooms a wide berth. Thus when we aren't real people 'online', then of course it is a small step to the fantasies of Tickling someone till they faint/pee/die whatever. All well and good as a fantasy of course, but nothing to do with real life, real people, and bringing mutually enjoyable tickling into a real relationship.

 

[PunKyGurl]

thank you Toneus

 

[tummynavelboy]

why are you mad at us PunKyGurl? just because most people didn't your Question? or Didn't answer it right? News Flash Most PEOPLE in this World are never real there fake *meaning Fake in a spiritual sense Not a human flesh to flesh sense* hehe better stop here before i put my foot in my mouth...

 

[alf1]

round twenty something

Anyway it is an incredible Punky Gurl thread once again 🙂 really.
I am scared of your reply now 🙄,seeing the others LOL