Why must this house be divided?

[Avenger314]

Hey all,

Every so often, I notice there's an undercurrent (sometimes overcurrent) of hostility against various preferences here. Basically,

"Foot lovers are so inconsiderate." "Why are you all into feet?" "Ugh, they should just call this the feet tickling forum."

"Why are there so many /m clips? Those suck."

"Ugh, that girl is too skinny." "Man, guys who like thin girls are so shallow." "Guys who like thin girls deserve to be unhappy."

Why must this be? We're a pretty niche fetish. Not unheard-of, but also not the most common. We certainly have our negative moments with the 'outside world' with respect to tickling. So why is there all this hostility directed against various intra-community preferences?

Yeah, I love feet. But I have nothing against armpits, upperbodies, chins, or palms, or whatever. I mostly download feet clips. But I don't agitate to get belly clips removed. Just because there are a lot of us foot lovers, doesn't mean we're out to 'take over' the forum or anything.

Why the hostility? We're all bound by this thread, part of a niche group. Why be divided?

Discuss.

Jim

 

[Bugman]

Hey all,

Every so often, I notice there's an undercurrent (sometimes overcurrent) of hostility against various preferences here. Basically,

"Foot lovers are so inconsiderate." "Why are you all into feet?" "Ugh, they should just call this the feet tickling forum."

"Why are there so many /m clips? Those suck."

"Ugh, that girl is too skinny." "Man, guys who like thin girls are so shallow." "Guys who like thin girls deserve to be unhappy."

Why must this be? We're a pretty niche fetish. Not unheard-of, but also not the most common. We certainly have our negative moments with the 'outside world' with respect to tickling. So why is there all this hostility directed against various intra-community preferences?

Yeah, I love feet. But I have nothing against armpits, upperbodies, chins, or palms, or whatever. I mostly download feet clips. But I don't agitate to get belly clips removed. Just because there are a lot of us foot lovers, doesn't mean we're out to 'take over' the forum or anything.

Why the hostility? We're all bound by this thread, part of a niche group. Why be divided?

Discuss.

Jim

I don't understand it either.If a clip is not something i'm intrested in i move on to something else.No need to bash anyone.I am a foot guy,but first and formost i like tickling.😀 I have a friend,a forum member who thought she liked to have her feet tickled,and she though that was her most ticklish spot.When i went to work on her underarms she went nuts and found she was much more ticklish there.I still like to tickle her feet,and she enjoys that.But tickling her underarms is more fun for me,because thats what she enjoys most and thats what its all about to me.😀

 

[Azrael]

I think it's because the people who find themselves at the focus of said preference become tired of it. Let's face it, you don't see (an awful lot of) people saying things like, "OMG OMG ARMPITS ARMPITS YEAH LOVE TO LICK AND SUCK AND NIBBLE OHHHH GODDDDD I NEED ARMPITSSS!"

I've seen the literal foot-equivalent of that... in posts, in chat, as the lead-in to a brand new thread, even in signatures.

You could also get all philosophical / metaphysical about it and say that women tend to like it less when guys focus on their feet because feet are much further from the head, i.e. the center of self, the point of ID, the focus of individuality, than armpits, tummies, etc. Thus, the further from the head that the guy's focus is, the less overall appreciated a woman feels. It becomes less about her as a person.

'Course, that could be a load of shit.

 

[Tickleslave07]

Great Topic Avenger

I guess the Division in here like peoples stand on the Iraq war your either for it or againt it.
I live by the old code if you love it great. I'm like you in a way not overlooking any woman's other assests.
But for those not into feet its cool you have your particular area of interest, and that's fine.

I said this years ago when I was first coming in here, and I still believe its true today. This community is like an extended family with brothers and sisters who love tickling.

And like most families who disagree that's exceptable of course, but were all bonded together in unity for tickling and really isn't that more important than a house divided. Think about it.

Your Friendly Neighborhood,
Tickleslave07

 

[Redmage]

Basically the only thing that everyone shares here is a fondness for tickling. In every other kink, preference, and opinion, we're as different as any group of people this large might be. We don't even agree on the kind of tickling we like.

It'd be nice if we could all respect each others' differences, but people on the net often have a hard time doing that.

 

[SlaverTickler]

Well I am fed up...

...with clips that are just about feet. Celeb feet, feet of the average person. This is the tickling media forum, not the Foot Media Forum. These guys have pretty much taken over, I am tired of seeing ever other clip being a none tk intrution.

 

[10 armed tkler]

Because people don't like what they see. People always think that a certain group of people always get there way. And on some levels it is true. And I guess it makes said certain of people even more angry that those people deny and even complain about not getting their way either.

yatta yatta yatta...and we are a group of individuals. Just because we are all a part of the same thing does not really mean we are all the same. Some shit like that I don't know.

 

[Azrael]

I would suggest... if somebody is fed up with clips featuring feet, they should watch one of the countless ones that isn't. The recent Golden Feather awardees at Bleufetish tend to start off very upper-body, and I think it can be reliably said that they're a pretty even 50/50 split.

Feet are a ticklish body part and the focus of much erotica worldwide. In some prominent cultures (i.e. Russian) they're as much a part of standard erotic activity as breasts.

 

[SlaverTickler]

I would suggest... if somebody is fed up with clips featuring feet, they should watch one of the countless ones that isn't. The recent Golden Feather awardees at Bleufetish tend to start off very upper-body, and I think it can be reliably said that they're a pretty even 50/50 split.

Feet are a ticklish body part and the focus of much erotica worldwide. In some prominent cultures (i.e. Russian) they're as much a part of standard erotic activity as breasts.

I'm not saying no feet, I'm just saying no feet that aren't being tickled. There is a None tk pic section, do pics can always go there, if this Foot crap is going to keep going like it is, then there should be a place for it, and there is, on a a site for feet, Not Here!http

Here is a prime example, the bellow link is to a thread about feet, but it is in the TICKLING DISCUTIONS forum. This is what I am talking about. It's nothing against Spence either, he seems like an alright guy, but COME ONE PEOPLE!

www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=106845

 

[911]

I think it's because the people who find themselves at the focus of said preference become tired of it. Let's face it, you don't see (an awful lot of) people saying things like, "OMG OMG ARMPITS ARMPITS YEAH LOVE TO LICK AND SUCK AND NIBBLE OHHHH GODDDDD I NEED ARMPITSSS!"

I've seen the literal foot-equivalent of that... in posts, in chat, as the lead-in to a brand new thread, even in signatures.

You could also get all philosophical / metaphysical about it and say that women tend to like it less when guys focus on their feet because feet are much further from the head, i.e. the center of self, the point of ID, the focus of individuality, than armpits, tummies, etc. Thus, the further from the head that the guy's focus is, the less overall appreciated a woman feels. It becomes less about her as a person.

'Course, that could be a load of shit.

The boobs are close to the head so I'm okay.

 

[Kalamos]

Well I am fed up...
...with clips that are just about feet. Celeb feet, feet of the average person. This is the tickling media forum, not the Foot Media Forum.

Should be mentioned, most foot sites have a definite worship/femdom slant.

Tickling sites work both ways, without being all out SMBD, and that is probably why they attract the non-masochistic side of foot-fan audience.

Tickling can be "lingua franca", fetish-wise.

 

[Soda Bobinski]

I'm not saying no feet, I'm just saying no feet that aren't being tickled. There is a None tk pic section, do pics can always go there, if this Foot crap is going to keep going like it is, then there should be a place for it, and there is, on a a site for feet, Not Here!http

I don't see anything wrong w/there being a heavy focus on feet around here. I'm pretty sure that the overwhelming majority of the members here like feet/love feet/have a foot-fetish ... so why shouldn't the pics , clips , or whatever cater to that majority?

I know if I was a producer of tickle-clips/videos , I would want to sell as many clips/videos as possible. How would I do that? ... by producing content that would make the most amount of people want to buy those tickle-clips/videos ... & apparently w/this fetish , FEET are what the masses want.

As far as there being content on this forum that shows 'feet that aren't being tickled' ...well , so what? I like to think of it as one-stop shopping ... I can go to one place to enjoy my love for tickling AND my love for female feet : the TMF! ... & I'm far from the only one who feels that way.

Anywhoo ... I'm pretty sure it's quite alright to post plenty of pics featuring ASSES NOT BEING SPANKED over at the SMF : the Spanking Media Forum.

 

[10 armed tkler]

I don't see anything wrong w/there being a heavy focus on feet around here. I'm pretty sure that the overwhelming majority of the members here like feet/love feet/have a foot-fetish ... so why shouldn't the pics , clips , or whatever cater to that majority?

I know if I was a producer of tickle-clips/videos , I would want to sell as many clips/videos as possible. How would I do that? ... by producing content that would make the most amount of people want to buy those tickle-clips/videos ... & apparently w/this fetish , FEET are what the masses want.

As far as there being content on this forum that shows 'feet that aren't being tickled' ...well , so what? I like to think of it as one-stop shopping ... I can go to one place to enjoy my love for tickling AND my love for female feet : the TMF! ... & I'm far from the only one who feels that way.

Anywhoo ... I'm pretty sure it's quite alright to post plenty of pics featuring ASSES NOT BEING SPANKED over at the SMF : the Spanking Media Forum.

Yeah every major producer has catered to feet. Every one has made at least one non-tickle foot clip or some sort. Thats cool and all, gotta make that money. But at the same time thats like slapping people who like to see other places tickled in the face. They are suppose to be tickle fetish producers. And yeah it is a little bit of a selling out to make a foot fetish film to make alot of cash when you are suppose to be everyone of that fetish something they like.

But at the same time...its just one clip/movie, pleanty of other clips/movies that producer makes. I can't be mad at them for that. I have long decided to say the hell with it and just go with the flow. Wait and look around for what I like(I am more of a breast and nipples tickler prodcuers and artist *wink wink*) and take a look at it.

Be fair though, this is a tickling forum. Remember that.

 

[Soda Bobinski]

But at the same time thats like slapping people who like to see other places tickled in the face.

Really? I don't know , man ... but I think that might be a bit harsh. After all , as a fan of feet & feet-tickling , I don't consider it to be an affront to me & my 'foot-comrades' if a pic/story/clip/video doesn't contain any ( or a lot of ) foot-tickling in it.

They are suppose to be tickle fetish producers. And yeah it is a little bit of a selling out to make a foot fetish film to make alot of cash when you are suppose to be everyone of that fetish something they like.

I wouldn't agree w/you that it's 'selling out'. Foot-tickling is just one part of the greater whole that is TICKLING. It may be the most popular part ... hence , the more material devoted to it. Not only that , but I think it's safe to say that many a tickling-video producer prefers foot-tickling ( i.e. they're foot-fans themselves ) , so the content they produce is going to sway that way anyway.

Even among the foot-tickling fans , the variety is great. There's those that prefer nylons to bare ... or socks to nylons ... or bound feet to unbound/loose ... or torturous to playful ... or big feet to small feet ... or long toes to short ones ... or use of tools to use of fingers ... you get the idea.

There's no way you're going to please everybody all the time , so instead of trying to cram every possible scenario/preference into every video , clip , or whatever ... we get something heavily incorporating one or two of those things ... & the next one will incorporate the next thing people like.

And let's face it ... MOST videos & clips feature all kinds of tickling : feet , armpits , ribs , belly , knees , thighs , etc.

But at the same time...its just one clip/movie, pleanty of other clips/movies that producer makes. I can't be mad at them for that. I have long decided to say the hell with it and just go with the flow. Wait and look around for what I like ....... and take a look at it.

You're exactly right. If a certain-something doesn't interest you ( the general 'YOU' ) , then move on ... don't complain , & find something that does float yer boat. 🙂

We should all learn to accept the wonderful variety our fetish ... & this forum ... provides. I'm pretty sure that's what Avenger314's intent was when he started this thread.

 

[milagros317]

We ought to all get along as lovers of tickling.

Imagine a convention of coffee lovers in a world where love of drinking coffee is quite rare. Wouldn't it be absurd if this small group spent its time arguing endlessly about whether to use sugar or not? About wheter to use cream or not? They should just accept that individual tastes differ and stand together to promote the love of drinking coffee. End of analogy.

 

[subZer0]

We ought to all get along as lovers of tickling.

Imagine a convention of coffee lovers in a world where love of drinking coffee is quite rare. Wouldn't it be absurd if this small group spent its time arguing endlessly about whether to use sugar or not? About wheter to use cream or not? They should just accept that individual tastes differ and stand together to promote the love of drinking coffee. End of analogy.

I like sugar! How dare you! And cream - that's good too! How very dare you!



Sorry Mils, felt like I had to do it!

Seriously though:

If it's non-tk videos, it should go in the mainstream section, as I believe the rules state that it's only tk videos that are permitted in the videos section. Same thing with the images section. But if it's something people don't like, just move on!

 

[Tickler Bart]

I'm not saying no feet, I'm just saying no feet that aren't being tickled. There is a None tk pic section, do pics can always go there, if this Foot crap is going to keep going like it is, then there should be a place for it, and there is, on a a site for feet, Not Here!http

Here is a prime example, the bellow link is to a thread about feet, but it is in the TICKLING DISCUTIONS forum. This is what I am talking about. It's nothing against Spence either, he seems like an alright guy, but COME ONE PEOPLE!

www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=106845

I understand what you are saying.
I agree with you that NON tickling feet content (or ANY other types of fetishes) should NOT be in the 'Tickling Discussion' section.
I guess it belongs in the 'General Discussion' section.
There is no place else to put NON tickling posts.
Being a foot man myself, I guess that talking abour feet is in the same venue as tickling because they are BOTH fetishes & for us, they go together.

 

[tkrexx]

"Foot lovers are so inconsiderate." "Why are you all into feet?" "Ugh, they should just call this the feet tickling forum."

"Why are there so many /m clips? Those suck."

"Ugh, that girl is too skinny." "Man, guys who like thin girls are so shallow." "Guys who like thin girls deserve to be unhappy."

Ugh, how many times do I have to see crap like that? I, like Milagros and others, wish we could all live harmoniously in our united love of tickling. I use Mil as an example because as "Old Heads" we recall life before the 'net, when if you found anything to do with tickling, you treasured it forever. I don't ever think I've seen a thread directed at upper body lovers, navel lovers, knee lovers or nipple lovers in a negative way. I've seen a couple of negative /m threads, but nowhere near as many anti-foot threads. Sure, purely foot threads (with no tickling) do not belong in the tickling images or tickling stories forums. That's why we have Mods. They generally move such material to the correct venue when they notice it. But no matter where it's located, it's the hostility encountered, both in the Forum proper and the chatroom, that Avenger had reference to in the beginning of this thread.

For people with any fetish at all to denegrate another with a fetish is simple hypocracy. For someone to talk trash about another with an offshoot of the same fetish is simply starting shit. As has been pointed out in this thread and so many others, if you're not into feet,
MOVE ON.
You'll find something you like in another thread. If you don't like slender women, don't marry one. Start a BBW appreciation thread. See how many people attack you for that.

A little maturity goes a long ways, and would be greatly appreciated.

 

[TeMpEsT949]

I personally am into upper body tickling more than foot tickling. HOWEVER, I think it's totally fine if someone's very into foot tickling, or armpit tickling, or whatever. It's all in the approach. I, as I'm sure a lot of women here, have gotten sooooo many PM's/IM's/chat room messages from people who love feet and the very first question they ask is "are you wearing socks?", "how big are your feet?", "do you have smooth soles?" that it's just plain annoying and weird, and I refuse to even further the conversation.

On the other hand, I've come across a lot of people into feet who actually get to know me first, then we eventually talk about our preferences and such, and then I'm completely ok with it 🙂

As far as clips go...ok, there are a lot of foot clips, but there are a lot of upper body clips too...so...I just watch those. No big deal. Everyone can choose what they want to see or read. The main thing I'm interested in is the way people introduce themselves.

 

[tkrexx]

I, as I'm sure a lot of women here, have gotten sooooo many PM's/IM's/chat room messages from people who love feet and the very first question they ask is "are you wearing socks?", "how big are your feet?", "do you have smooth soles?" that it's just plain annoying and weird, and I refuse to even further the conversation.

Well, I will certainly own up to neglecting that particular annoyance. You wouldn't believe how many unsolicited pm's I get in the chatroom asking if I'm female, am I into feet, who's the most ticklish woman I've known, etc. ad queasium. That could, and does, come from any variety of woebegones, foot preference or not. And if I get hassled in that manner, I can surely understand how irritating that can be to a woman.

 

[Soda Bobinski]

We ought to all get along as lovers of tickling.

Imagine a convention of coffee lovers in a world where love of drinking coffee is quite rare. Wouldn't it be absurd if this small group spent its time arguing endlessly about whether to use sugar or not? About wheter to use cream or not? They should just accept that individual tastes differ and stand together to promote the love of drinking coffee. End of analogy.

Well put. Good analogy , milagros!

 

[Soda83pop]

For people with any fetish at all to denegrate another with a fetish is simple hypocracy. For someone to talk trash about another with an offshoot of the same fetish is simply starting shit. As has been pointed out in this thread and so many others, if you're not into feet,

Far nice than anyway I have ever said it...frankly as a whole I feel this is the most segmented, fragmented place I visit. Its the only place I visit with a "Why dont people get us thread" right on top of a "Why do these people like this?" thread. Blows my mind.

 

[drew70]

I think that for many, a fetish such as this one comes with a kind of hope or expectation of the world as it should be. We sort of create a world-view in which the thing we like is the norm world wide, and any deviation from that offends us considerably.

For example, as a boy I grew up viewing tickling as something females did to males. Whenever I saw a girl or woman tickling a man or boy, it excited me tremendously; but more than that, it filled me with a sense of "things as they SHOULD be."

Whenever I saw a male tickling a female, I would think, "Does he have any idea of how utterly ridiculous that is?" It was like seeing a man in drag. Seeing a man tickling another man filled me with disgust and revulsion, like seeing two men kissing.

When I discovered AMT around 1999 or so, I was appalled at the emphasis on M/F tickling. I used to flame TIB and Lucky Andre on a regular basis because M/F was so offensive to me. But over a couple of years, developing online friends, I ultimately got over my resentment of M/F and my even stronger resentment of M/M. They are still not my preference, but if the tickling is exceptional, I can enjoy both on rare occasions.

I think that if somebody as bullheaded and narrowminded as me can learn to get over life-long resentments and preconceptions, anybody can if one puts one's mind to it.

 

[Bugman]

Whenever I saw a girl or woman tickling a man or boy, it excited me tremendously; but more than that, it filled me with a sense of "things as they SHOULD be."

I grew up thinking the exact opposite,and there is nothing wrong with either view point.As long as no one is harmed or forced into anything i say whatever floats your boat is fine.😀

 

[Capnmad]

Good Topic, Jim.

I wonder that myself. I, for one, having done a bit of drawing in the past, and looking to take it up again sometime, want to better understand what the attraction is to feet among foot-folk, and will occasionally poll one or two to see what sort of things they like, so that I may use this knowledge to better serve the interests of all.

I've got no particular affinity for feet -- I'm an all-over type guy -- but I think understanding what appeals to foot-folk is important for the art I want to produce for the niche. I'm lucky enough to have a friend who is foot-directed, and from whose collection I've gotten some pics to study for better understanding of anatomy and appeal.

I can appreciate some of it aesthetically -- some feet, shot a certain way, have a flow or structure that appeals -- and while I likely will never appreciate it on the same level as other foot-folk, I'm happy to try.