Why The TK/Handjob Popularity?

[BellaRisa]

Forgive me if this doesn't seem like a tk-forum discussion, but it really is: what is up (excuse the pun, heh) with the overwhelming popularity of the handjob videos from TK companies? Please don't misunderstand, I have no problem with such, in fact I applaud the eroticism of some clips I've seen ; it's just that I've always gotten the impression that the *last* thing male tickling enthusiasts want to see is another guy, and that's with his clothes on and his bits tucked away, so the handjob/tk video success surprised me. Thoughts, insight?

Bueller? 🙂

 

[Deleted member 2452]

maybe you don't know us after all?

gee bellarisa being wrong.. who'd a thunk it?
there happen to be many of us guys out here who like f/m tickling, and we are inteligent enogh, and have enough imagination to be able to put ourselves in the shoes of the male lee. so the lee being tickled to orgasm is great to us, as some of us have ticklish boy bits, and have laughed our way to climax! i'm suprised you really had to ask!

 

[BellaRisa]

gee bellarisa being wrong.. who'd a thunk it?
there happen to be many of us guys out here who like f/m tickling, and we are inteligent enogh, and have enough imagination to be able to put ourselves in the shoes of the male lee. so the lee being tickled to orgasm is great to us, as some of us have ticklish boy bits, and have laughed our way to climax! i'm suprised you really had to ask!

Hello Steve.

I'm not asking why such videos and clips sell at all, I certainly understand the F/M fan base; I'm just asking about the enormity of their success, which is larger than I'd have expected.

Normally I keep you on ignore because of your awful attitude and atrocious spelling, but since you're someone who would know about this topic I clicked just in case you had something intelligent to contribute. Thank you for your input, despite the insulting tone I appreciate your response

 

[Deleted member 2452]

again, maybe you just didn't get us

i too usually ignore you bella, as i can't stand your opinions either. so we'll just have to keep ignoring eachother🙂
i chose to view this thread before i realized it was authored by you, that not withstanding, it is a topic that is near and dear to my heart.
you are suprised at the success of this type of tickling, and i'll again just tell you that it is appearent you missunderstand the community then.
something to keep in mind, as i have learned, just because you don't like something, or understand it doesn't mean everyone feels the same as you!
and i couldn't care less how you feel about my posting style.

 

[method11236]

I'm surprised we have not seen more tickle-sex videos: girl tied up, tickled and Effed at the same time. I'm personally not into it but it has seemed to be a popular thing on the forum.

 

[BellaRisa]

I'm surprised we have not seen more tickle-sex videos: girl tied up, tickled and Effed at the same time. I'm personally not into it but it has seemed to be a popular thing on the forum.

To my knowledge there's laws about bondage and penetration that prevent more vids of that kind. I could definitely be wrong but I've heard this quite a bit.

 

[ViperGTS]

This is true.

Bondage and penetration in the same video is a no no, sadly. It's to avoid even the slightest possibility that a girl is being tied and fucked against her will.

 

[tcklft]

Don't forget all those */f vibrator clips! 😱

I suppose the handjob/vibrator action, like tickling, falls under "manual stimulation" (the vibrator being operated by hand, natch). Evidently such clips feed a need in the community, and are perhaps a relatively cheap (?), non-penetrative "add on" for the producers to film and add to their offerings, widening their stores' appeal and netting them more $$.

 

[ViperGTS]

Don't forget all those */f vibrator clips! 😱

I have no idea what you're talking about.

From now on, to avoid people getting what they don't want, I will be selling the vibrator stuff completely seperate from the tickling action.

 

[LD_Tickler]

Bondage and penetration is not allowed in the same video? Do you mean that's a law? And if so, according to what jurisdiction?

Or did you just mean as a general policy trend?

 

[cloudgazer2k]

i always figured the two were combined for one of the same reasons we have the ladies getting vibed to explosion: orgasm = increased ticklishness. just my thought.

 

[drew70]

I've noticed this too, particularly with F/M clips from Silver Cherry. And I would have to say that it mirrors many of my own sexual experiences as a young man.

When I was a soldier in Okinawa and Korea, I would go to places that would offer a steambath, followed by a massage, and topped off with a hand job, usually referred to as a "special" massage. We fondly referred to such a place as the "Steam & Cream."

While getting the massage, I would always convince the girls to tickle me. In virtually every instance, they were happy to comply, and most actually enjoyed the departure from norm. They would tickle me up and then finish me off. Those who were particularly entheusiastic in their tickling would get a good amount of repeat business from me.

So getting back to Bella's question, I think the handjob scenes reinforce the aggressiveness of the female tickler, in a more blatantly sexual way. For me, that's always been the keystone of what I like about F/M tickling. It's not about seeing the guy getting tickled. It's about the aggressiveness and determination of the woman to deliberately and purposefully set out to put a man through such intensities of sensation.

 

[maniactickler]

I refuse to watch any video involving a mans penis.

 

[Coda]

Bella,

For me: when enjoying a */F tickling clip, then it's all about drinking in the girl's expressions, her features, her laughter, her beauty, while she's being caused to display them all. It's largely just because it's just sexy.

On the other hand, I've found F/M clips to be extremely exciting too, if they're done well... but it's completely different. Two completely different moods.

For me, when watching F/M clips, it has nothing to do with the particular man being played with. It's about its ability to immerse me in the thought of my own erotic vulnerabilities as a man, and the ease with which a woman can exploit them if she's talented. (For that reason, the quality of an F/M clip is determined by the talent of the "F".)

The sexual content is the same at the core, and it's again based on the woman's ability to take him over. Consider that women can be aroused and, if they're trying to do so, hide it fairly well. Even a female orgasm, to a bystander, is mainly indicated by the way their bodies and voices move, and they can potentially hide it if they're trying. Conversely, women can also fake orgasms.

On the other hand, a naked and restrained man can neither hide sexual arousal nor fake it, because of the (blatant) erectile process. When orgasm is in question, men can neither create a fake orgasm, nor hide an authentic one, because of the (even more obvious, and when it's triggered, completely uncontrollable) ejaculatory process. Unlike the many other opportunities for men to mislead, protect or conceal their sexual feelings, his sexual processes completely bypass any mental defense mechanisms and present a completely honest response to the woman, even if he's actively attempting to prevent it. (Not to be ignored are the intense physical and emotional sensations that any male viewer will understand full well she's putting him through.)

Even if he's trying to be strong, a good tickler can <I>make</I> him laugh and dance. Even if he's trying to project that he isn't affected by the sexual power of women, a talented woman can <I>make</I> him get an erection and ejaculate. So, at the core, one of the reasons that I think some men find tickling so erotic is the <I>same</I> reason they find being helpless and stimulated erotic. Clips that embody that reason are the ones those men will love.

... Does that make any sense?

 

[tanned67]

Interesting point! Being a male virgin I had no idea men were so vulnerable to touching until my girlfriend would touch my shorts or bathing suite when she was doing her touching, pinning, and tying up whenever I wore a bathing suite or a t-shirt, shorts, and barefeet. Women have the power to overwhelm men with weakness and helplessness and powerlessness just by touching and I can see why those kinds of videos exposing those vulnerabilities are shown. It is also the reason I take female bodyguards now to protect me from the pack of hungry wolves at the Battle of the Bands. They know my vulnerability and they are more than happy to protect me.

 

[amkes]

To my knowledge there's laws about bondage and penetration that prevent more vids of that kind. I could definitely be wrong but I've heard this quite a bit.

This is true.

Bondage and penetration in the same video is a no no, sadly. It's to avoid even the slightest possibility that a girl is being tied and fucked against her will.

ok now I don't know what the difference is between bondage and penetration and bondage a wacking off a guy. they or both forcing a person into sexual orientations. it like saying a guy cant be raped. anywho not to get into some huge argument with some girl who will say it is not the same. Idk if bondage and penetration is against the law or what not but if that is the the same should be for tieing a guy down and wacking him off. sorry I don't like double standards

 

[kis123]

I refuse to watch any video involving a mans penis.

Maniac, I'll have to go with you on this one!

The only "one" I have interest in is attached to my SO; other than that, fuggedaboutit!!!!

Now, would I oblige that special someone with such? I most certainly would because whatever (almost) makes him happy makes me happy!

 

[Glovelover]

I guess I’ll chime in here for my thoughts. Tickling (f/m) from day one has always been sexual for me and I am aroused each time it happens. During college, I got to explore tickling the most with my girlfriend at the time and she learned how fun it was to tease and torment me in between the tickling. It became a game to see how long she could bring me to the edge without letting me climax. Later when I would look for magazines, etc. featuring tickling, I would hope to discover a spread or shot that depicted f/m tickling which in those days was extremely rare. When I did find some that focused on that, it always came short of the erotic appeal tickling was to me. Now with the Internet, I guess I am sooooooooo thrilled to see that producers have actually combined the two! Now that those are available, I do tend to distinguish even further.

I must concur with Coda, my opinion is the quality depends a lot on the F. Her attitude, the way she tickles and her verbal torment really distinguish from ones that ‘really rock my boat’ verses ‘oh, that was okay’.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

I go to tickling companies for tickling videos, and that's all I want to see.

 

[lk70]

Here's a theory that has nothing to do with what the guys actually like or how man of them like it. How about the thought that those fellows who are not comfortable with male lees, particularly with naughty bits hanging out, are just way more vocal about it?

If you take the not too giant leap that it's a form of homophobia, it would explain the loud protesting.

 

[Bohemianne]

Here's a theory that has nothing to do with what the guys actually like or how man of them like it. How about the thought that those fellows who are not comfortable with male lees, particularly with naughty bits hanging out, are just way more vocal about it?

If you take the not too giant leap that it's a form of homophobia, it would explain the loud protesting.

^ Well, this makes sense...😀

 

[BellaRisa]

Here's a theory that has nothing to do with what the guys actually like or how man of them like it. How about the thought that those fellows who are not comfortable with male lees, particularly with naughty bits hanging out, are just way more vocal about it?

If you take the not too giant leap that it's a form of homophobia, it would explain the loud protesting.

Now that makes a lot of sense, thank you!

And thank you to those who've been kind and thoughtful in their responses, it's appreciated. As I said, it's not I don't understand the large F/M audience, far from it; in fact it's one of my very favorite things (when's NEST again? ) My question stemmed from the constant number of tk+handjob clips that sell brilliantly on Clips4sale and other sites, outselling genres that I wouldn't have expected them to, given how many males have told me they despise another man's "hairy balls and ass" in their vision; I thought I'd raise a discussion of whether the naysayers doth protest too much, because obviously someone's fibbing .

 

[Stage Whisper]

If I was one of those kinds that actually bought clips, I know one or two tickling/handjob movies I'd seriously consider getting.

Then again, I'm female. 😀

Anyway.. One thing I find interesting in the movies with men tied down is that, often, you don't see the man's face. He wears a mask of some sort; likely to make it easier for the watcher (if he's male) to put himself in the 'lee's place.

There are quite a few out there who like imagining themselves put into such a helpless position and treated to magic fingers and teasing hands; maybe they just don't vocally admit it as often as the naysayers complain about it. ^^;

 

[Coda]

There are quite a few out there who like imagining themselves put into such a helpless position and treated to magic fingers and teasing hands; maybe they just don't vocally admit it as often as the naysayers complain about it. ^^;

You're way too insightful for your own good, Stage. Of course you're right; if they were the kind of person who would readily admit it, then they wouldn't be the kind of person who was turned on so deeply by it.

 

[drew70]

Here's a theory that has nothing to do with what the guys actually like or how man of them like it. How about the thought that those fellows who are not comfortable with male lees, particularly with naughty bits hanging out, are just way more vocal about it?

If you take the not too giant leap that it's a form of homophobia, it would explain the loud protesting.

No disrespect intended here, Lynn; but I personally think that is a huge leap. It's one thing to hate and fear a group of people because they have a preference for the same gender. That's homophobia.

But we're talking about watching erotic video with expectations of arousal. I think it's unfair and unreasonable to label somebody as homophobic simply for stating his preference in erotic video content. It's like labeling a guy who says that he thinks Latinas are hotter than Asians as a racist.