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Yahoo Mailbox Has Become A Spam Factory-Any Advice?

Mitchell

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For the last few days, my Yahoo mailbox has become an absolute spam factory. If I navigate away from it for as little as fifteen minutes, when I return to the mailbox page, I will find anywhere between ten and thirty spam e-mails in the spam folder. I've been getting everything from X rated picture offers to government grant offers, and so forth.

Does anyone have any advice about what to do? Should I just deal with it, and delete the spam? It would be wise for me not to have to change my yahoo e-mail address, as I communicate with my most important business contact on that e-mail address, as well as with other important people.

Any advice on the subject would be appreciated. Thanks.

Mitch
 
Are you using a free Yahoo email address specifically at the yahoo.com domain? If so, although I probably wouldn't highly recommend using a free Yahoo account for business purposes (or possibly any free email service for business purposes), if you insisted on using a free Yahoo account and had asked my advice before opening your account, I probably would have recommended opening an account at one of Yahoo's other "international" domains (such as at e.g, Yahoo.ca, for Canada), since many, if not most, other than the Yahoo.com domain intended primarily for U.S. users, have POP3 access and forwarding options, either of which might more easily facilitate a number of possible spam filtering services or programs.

But if you're using a free Yahoo.com account, without POP3 or forwarding, as far as I know your options are pretty limited. While I don't know why you may have suddenly become inundated with spam in the last few days (Did you recently give your address to some "spurious" party online? I generally always use temporary, so-called "disposable" addresses, or aliases, when needing to provide an email address to someone I don't fully trust), offhand I can only offer about two and a half suggestions. I'll get the "half" suggestion out of the way first, that being merely to turn your "junk" filtering on in your Yahoo email options if it isn't already and see if that helps. But since it seems likely you may have already have that option turned on, and in my experience Yahoo has pretty lousy spam filtering, with a lot of false positives and false negatives, that's why I only consider that to count as a "half suggestion".

Which leaves two other options offhand that I can think of (other than changing addresses, that is). The first would be to pay for Yahoo premium service for your account, which would enable POP3 access and forwarding, which, as I suggested above, would allow for more versatile options for filtering your messages, for which I could try to offer a specific suggestion or two should you decide to go that route. I don't necessarily recommend that, though, since I've heard of even paid Yahoo email users getting locked out of their own accounts for days on end, with Yahoo's so-called support being unable to figure out or solve the problem. Although that may be a relatively rare issue for all I know, and you may well have good luck with the paid Yahoo email service yourself.

Otherwise, the only other option I can think of that I'm aware of is a free service at http://www.boxbe.com/, which purports to be able to filter email to free Yahoo accounts for spam, although not making much use of Yahoo email myself for several years now, I've never tried it with that service, so I can't personally vouch for it's effectiveness or reliability. And of course, being that it's a free service and not having any idea what their business model is, all bets might be off as to how long it may be around, but it's been around for perhaps a year or two, anyway, since I first heard of it. Following is a quotation from a post of my own last October to a thread started by forum member TickledToDeath when he posted a similar request for help with his Yahoo spam problem in this thread:

Although I'm not sure if it's clear that it is a Yahoo address which TTD is wishing to "protect" from spam, if so, there is one service, boxbe.com, which can be used in connection with a free Yahoo account, using challenge/response in conjunction with spam scoring. It creates a special "waiting list" folder in your Yahoo account, to which it routes "spammy-looking" messages from senders not in your "approved" list (including everyone in your address book, which can be imported to said list), allowing you to "approve" or "disapprove" them. I'm not sure if the challenge-response message contains a CAPTCHA, or exactly how it works, since I haven't used the service extensively myself, but only to filter spam from a few mostly-unused old (non-Yahoo) accounts which hardly receive anything but spam anymore.

Again, I haven't used the service much, nor have I been using it for long, so I can't vouch for how well it may work for an email account which one actually uses on a daily basis. And as suggested above, any challenge/response type system has its pros and cons, but it can be helpful if the level of spam received in an email account has reached an "intolerable" level, and as very few if any other third party spam control services work with standard free Yahoo.com addresses (thanks mainly to their lack of forwarding or POP3 access), I thought I'd mention it as something possibly worth looking at anyway.

I don't know whether TTD ever ended up trying that service with his Yahoo account or not, or if so whether he had much luck with it, but I suppose you could try to PM him and ask him about it.

Otherwise, if my assumption about your Yahoo account being a free one without POP3 or forwarding was incorrect, or if you think it's worth considering paying for it to get those options, let me know and I'll see if I can come up with any additional suggestions which might help with that situation.
 
Get a hotmail account.It's all i ever use and i never get spam.Yahoo email blows.I never check it even though i have an account.
 
Get a hotmail account.It's all i ever use and i never get spam.Yahoo email blows.I never check it even though i have an account.

I'm glad you're satisfied with Hotmail. However, it might be worth noting that a fairly considerable number of Hotmail users at this forum, at which quite a few "serious" email users post, have accused Homail of having a high rate of "silent discards" -- that is, legitimate messages sent to Hotmail addresses which are merely "eaten" by Hotmail as suspected spam, never reaching the intended recipient's Inbox, nor even his or her spam folder, and the senders never receiving a bounce message apprising them of the fact that their message wasn't delivered.

Reportedly, this is much less likely to happen if both sender and receiver are Hotmail users, but messages sent from services "outside" of Hotmail to Hotmail addresses have a much greater chance of never reaching their destination. In fact, a number of people have reported keeping Hotmail addresses for no other purpose other than just for sending messages to people who use Hotmail, as Hotmail has become somewhat notorious for their own somewhat peculiar methods of addressing the spam problem. If you haven't ever noticed failing to receive messages at Hotmail, it could be that most of your correspondents also use Hotmail, or you may just be lucky. But in fact, that's purported to be exactly why Hotmail users recently report seeing so little spam -- since Hotmail has a reputation for throwing out the baby with the bathwater, as it were, in being overly aggressive in their spam handling methods.

(Although I personally essentially abandoned my first Hotmail account quite a few years ago now, after using it for about a year as my second or third "main" email address, when one night every message in my Hotmail mailbox, messages I'd been storing and sorting into folders for up to a year, suddenly all vanished without a trace in the bat of an eye, leaving me with a completely empty mailbox. I've never trusted the service since then.)

But as I suggested above, many "serious" email users recommend never relying on any free email service for important business purposes.
 
Gmail filters almost all my SPAM. Another option would be to hit unsubscribe on everything that allows it.
 
There's no unsubscribing with real spam. I personally just grin and bear it, with the spam in my spam folder. But unfortunately, there's something you should know too: some legit personal mail goes into your spam folder as well, so you need to glance over it before you delete it. I've had important items come to my spam folder. Funny thing is, years ago I had a Hotmail account and I found I was getting too much spam there. Now I have a half-dozen Yahoo accounts (the one you're all familiar with is but one of them), and they all get spam, but for some reason, not equally. I think the degree to which you let your address circulate, plus the degree to which computer-generated lists can guess it, play a part.
 
Gmail filters almost all my SPAM.

While I have quite a few misgivings about Gmail, which I won't go into here (since it might take me all night), recently I've had to gradually admit that in my own experience it has seemed the most fundamentally reliable of any of the free email services I've tried lately. On the other hand, just yesterday I was reading a post at the above-mentioned forum from a woman who had been using Gmail for important work-related purposes when she got completely locked out of her Gmail account for a week, for reasons Gmail was never able to explain to her. In case anyone's interested, her post is here:

http://www.emaildiscussions.com/showpost.php?p=472661&postcount=54

Personally, I've gradually come to the conclusion that email in general is right up there with cell phone service as the two most unreliable modes of communication ever invented by Man, and try to avoid ever relying on it for anything of an important nature, but always try to use another alternative whenever possible for any important communication.

Another option would be to hit unsubscribe on everything that allows it.

I don't advise doing this with real spam, but only with legitimate messages which one has "opted in" to, since it's pretty well known that spammers don't honor these requests, but in fact, clicking on them only reassures them that someone is receiving messages at that address, which will likely only lead to more spam.
Edit: I should perhaps revise that to say that, these days, clicking on such a link may be as likely to bring one to a "phishing" page or a site designed to infect one's computer with malware.
 
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I may be reading too much into your wording Mitch, but what is the problem if it is going to your spam folder? I guess it's "not" going there is the issue? As a few other have said, I've been using GMail since the early beta of it and have had zero problems to complain of. It was the longest time before I ever got spam at all and once it did start, it is almost always caught by the spam filter. MAYBE one spam every couple of months actually slip into my inbox. I could not be happier with it. If you did try out a gmail account, maybe you could forward your business email to there. Good luck.
 
Listen to KrazieDog and BrightEyes.

Go with Gmail...G.

Transfer your addy book and just hit your old contacts from your new account.

Make a mass announcement ... and it's over.

Check back on Yahoo! for the first few weeks, but you'll be surprised how easily people adapt. Especially you!

Once you do it, you won't look back.:rockon:

It's an upgrade. Change is good.
 
Thanks for the advice, and no, I didnt give my address to anyone new. It's just all bullshit mail, the same thing all the time. Things such as "See my pics", or "Win this contest". Or "Vacation home.".

I will look into opening a hot mail account.

Thanks again for the feedback.

Also, yes, this is a free Yahoo account. It was set up, in.. 2002, I believe when I got this computer.

Mitch
 
I had a Yahoo account for years, but I abandoned it a few months ago as I got tired of the spam. I trade off between Hotmail, Mail.com and Gmail. They seem to be a little less spam prone, which certainly makes my day :numberone:
 
Thanks, Barbara. I just opened a hotmail account last night. I may decide to close down the Yahoo one, but I need to find out if I can keep my instant message ID first.

Welcome to the forum, by the way. Enjoy.

Mitch
 
When becoming a Luddite just isn't enough...

Abandon the evils of modern technology, move to Pennsylvania (where Dracula lives) and join the Amish. You'll get an awesome earth-toned wardrobe (no lion or witch though), some fresh air and an excellent workout routine involving raising barns. :dancingsheep:
 
Thanks, Barbara. I just opened a hotmail account last night. I may decide to close down the Yahoo one, but I need to find out if I can keep my instant message ID first.

Yes, it's been possible for years to have a Yahoo ID for use with the Yahoo messenger and other Yahoo services without having a mailbox in the name.

Although I may have read at one time (at emaildiscussions.com, where I've been reading and posting for several years) of someone who found a way to explicitly deactivate their Yahoo email account, it wasn't easy wading through the information at Yahoo trying to find a way to do it. But if you don't log into your Yahoo account for about four months (as of the most recent information I have on it), it will be automatically deactivated by Yahoo and remain inactive until/unless you try to login to it again, in which case they'll give you the option of reactivating it again (assuming you still have the correct password, that is). Otherwise, it will remain dormant/inactive indefinitely, and any messages sent to the address will be bounced back to the senders with a message apprising them that the mailbox has been deactivated.

In the meantime, yes, you should be able to continue logging into messenger and any other Yahoo services (any which still may exist, that is) with the same user name, since there's no requirement that a Yahoo ID have a mailbox associated with it.

But if you've decided for sure that you wish to ultimately abandon your Yahoo email address for another address or service, having spent some years as an "email obsessive" (that is, while I actually write very few emails these days, I've been a bit obsessive about trying and checking out the features, etc. of practically every email service I've ever heard of for several years now), this is how I'd recommend that you do it.

First, send an email to all your regular contacts apprising them of your new email address (while based on my own experience and others, I can't "endorse" Bugman's recommendation of Hotmail, but knowing that no email service is perfect, I won't belabor that issue here, so do as you like in that regard, of course).

Then, DON'T try to immediately deactivate your Yahoo email account. Since you may overlook some of your contacts at your Yahoo address, since for whatever reason some may not get the email apprising of your new address, and some people are "set in their ways" and tend to continue using the old address anyway out of habit or forgetfulness, or you may just not be able to easily remember everyone who you may wish to give your new address to, what I recommend doing instead is leaving it to die a natural death -- that is, to become inactive through non-use. That will allow a "window" of about four months for anyone who might email you at your old address to have a chance to be updated on your new address, as follows:

Before abandoning the Yahoo account, login to it again and go to your email Preferences and create an autoreply similar to the following:

"This email address is no longer active. Please contact me at my new address at [insert your new (Hotmail?) email address here]. Thank you."

Remember, since 99.999999999999999% of spam these days is sent by "bots" from "compromised" computers (so-called "zombies") with forged From addresses, you have little to worry about spammers getting your new address from this autoresponse, since they'll never receive it, so only legitimate senders giving their true email addresses on the From line will ever receive this autoresponse message giving them your new address.

If even the slimmest possibility of spammers using automated means with real From addresses to cull email addresses from replies concerns you (as highly remote as this possibility is), you can "confound" any such systems by slightly "obscuring" your new address in your response so that it's easily readable by humans but not by automated processes, such as by typing it as, e.g., myusername (at) hotmail dot com.

Or, to make it even less worth spammers while (remember, they need to send to millions of addresses in order to hope to get responses from just a few people stupid enough to respond, so it's not cost-effective for them to waste a lot of time just trying to find one or two new addresses), instead of putting youir new email address directly in the auotresponse message you could just include a link to a 'CAPTCHA'-protected page like his one:

http://mailhide.recaptcha.net/d?k=0...=ugWwGBIYVmKz8hCyfRwcHO4efQPZwtyhuOyhNXFkviU=

offered free at the Mailhide service at this site maintained by the creators of the ' reCAPTCHA' system.

Either way, after setting your autoreply, change your preferences to turn Junk mail filtering OFF so as to ensure that no legitimate messages go to your spam folder, preventing their senders from receiving your autoresponse.

Finally, log out of your Yahoo account and forget about it, not logging in again for at least four months to ensure its eventual deactivation. If you want to make sure, after 3 or 4 months, send a message to your old Yahoo address every once in awhile and, after long enough, you should eventually receive a bounce message informing you that the mailbox has been deactivated.

Kind of long-winded but it's really pretty simple and it's how I would handle the situation. Meanwhile, like I said, you should be able to continue logging into the Yahoo Messenger indefinitely with the same Yahoo ID, with or without a corresponding Yahoo email address. In fact, many people use the Yahoo Messenger without a Yahoo email address, I have several old Yahoo IDs that I login to the messenger with on rare occasions myself, although the email accounts for all of them have been inactive for years and I never bother reactivating them, since I have no use for them.
 
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