Your In The NFC West

[Deuce]

So your in the NFC West and get into the playoffs at 7-9 and may be get a 1 st round loat making you 7-10 for the year, So do you call that a suscessful year since you won the West ???

 

[maniactickler]

Hell no!

 

[10 armed tkler]

Funny since 2 of the last 5 years an NFC West team has made it to the super Bowl.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

Funny since 2 of the last 5 years an NFC West team has made it to the super Bowl.

And both teams were underdogs who went on to lose. And they both lost to the same team!

 

[wiz314]

When a team makes it to the playoffs the win vs. losses are the same. You win the next one or go home. It matter not what you done in the regular season. In 2007, the New England patriots won every game they played except the one that truly count. They lost it to a team that barely made the playoffs.

I hate to quote Herm Edwards but, “That why you play the game!”

 

[Tickle Fiend]

The problem is that it screws with the advantage that the top team is supposed to have, facing the "worst" remaining team.

Whoever wins the NFC West will be crushed by the 5th-seed. That means that Atlanta would have to play that 5th-seeded team, assuming the 6th-seed loses in Philadelphia. So Atlanta could end up playing New Orleans, one of the top 4-or-5 teams in the league.

So that's why I agree with people who want the automatic home-game taken away from division winners, instead judging teams solely on win-loss records.

 

[Deuce]

When a team makes it to the playoffs the win vs. losses are the same. You win the next one or go home. It matter not what you done in the regular season. In 2007, the New England patriots won every game they played except the one that truly count. They lost it to a team that barely made the playoffs.

I hate to quote Herm Edwards but, “That why you play the game!”

So is it fair for let's say a Tampa Bay which could end up with a 10-6 record and not make playoffs cause a may be a 7-9 team wins there division, and is it fair that a team like New Orleans has to go to San Fran or St Louis to play a 1st round game. I know the playoffs are a whole new season but there needs to be a reward for coming to play each week.

 

[unclebill]

Being from St. Louis, and having a 6-8 team in a tie for first place is no joy. The previous management and ownership group let this franchise go to hell to the point where the talent base on the Rams resembled an expansion team. They have had two productive drafts in a row, and hopefully will be back to being a proud franchise in the near future. Currently, the Rams are only competitive in most games. The fans here know our team is not worthy of being in the playoffs, but the only way to fix this problem and make it fair, is to eliminate divisions altogether and I don`t think that would go over very well with most people. Divisional rivalries are what makes the NFL the most popular sport in the U.S.

 

[ticklingfeet4fu]

So your in the NFC West and get into the playoffs at 7-9 and may be get a 1 st round loat making you 7-10 for the year, So do you call that a suscessful year since you won the West ???

Well, let's see...If you are the St.Louis Rams who won only one game a year ago and then go to the playoffs, I don't care what you have to say about the team or the division, the Rams season is a HUGE success. Not their fault the 49ers and Seahawks couldn't get out of their own way.

Hell no!

Anytime you make the playoffs it is a success. The Rams won only one game a year ago. Anything is an improvement, but to go to the playoffs with a rookie QB after you won only one game a year ago is quite impressive. So H*LL YES!

 

[ndj101982]

If a team gets in at 7-9 I will root for them to win the Super Bowl so that if by some miracle (such as the 9-7 cardinals almost winnning it 2 years ago) they win it all the NFL can realize how ridiculous it is to have 4 divisions. No team with a record worse than 9-7 belongs in the playoffs. I don't even think 9-7 belongs in when teams that are 10-6 are not getting in. The Pats didn't make it in with an 11-5 a few years back thanks to the 4 division shit.

 

[Heeko]

If a team is that good, to quote the Rock "It doesn't matter" who they play, or what record they have. The Pats didn't make it when they were 11-5? The only blame they have is themselves. If they were 'that good' they would have won their division and left no doubt.

Eat what's on your own plate before you worry about what everyone else is having.

The Pats were undefeated. Did they win the Super Bowl? How many wild card teams have won the Super Bowl?

As someone said, when the playoffs start every team is 0-0. At that point it's take care of business or go home. If you were all that, you would have won your division. No excuses. No tears. Doesn't matter what record any team has.

If your team doesn't make the playoffs they have no one to blame but themselves. Every team was 0-0 when the season started. All you had to do was win your games. Period. Eat what's on your own plate.

 

[ndj101982]

If a team is that good, to quote the Rock "It doesn't matter" who they play, or what record they have. The Pats didn't make it when they were 11-5? The only blame they have is themselves. If they were 'that good' they would have won their division and left no doubt.

Eat what's on your own plate before you worry about what everyone else is having.

The Pats were undefeated. Did they win the Super Bowl? How many wild card teams have won the Super Bowl?

As someone said, when the playoffs start every team is 0-0. At that point it's take care of business or go home. If you were all that, you would have won your division. No excuses. No tears. Doesn't matter what record any team has.

If your team doesn't make the playoffs they have no one to blame but themselves. Every team was 0-0 when the season started. All you had to do was win your games. Period. Eat what's on your own plate.

That is asinine. If the pats were 11-5 and didn't make the playoffs they have nobody to blame but themselves??? Are you friggin kidding me??? When teams with far worse records made it in that year. Dude, it's because all division winners make the playoffs and football is the only sport that has four divisions, thus giving chances to teams that are FAR less deserving to make it into the playoffs if they win a FAR less competitive division. It's stupid. Hockey and Basketball have it right.

 

[Heeko]

That is asinine. If the pats were 11-5 and didn't make the playoffs they have nobody to blame but themselves??? Are you friggin kidding me??? When teams with far worse records made it in that year. Dude, it's because all division winners make the playoffs and football is the only sport that has four divisions, thus giving chances to teams that are FAR less deserving to make it into the playoffs if they win a FAR less competitive division. It's stupid. Hockey and Basketball have it right.

Is it 'asinine' because you win when you have to? Did the Pats win their division that year? Is that the NFC West division winner's fault? Who's fault is it?? No one but the Pats, because the Pats couldn't get the job done and win enough games to come out on top of their own division. You said it yourself "all division winners make the playoffs". Last time I checked, the NFC west winner had very little to do with who won the AFC East.

When the Pats went 16-0 were they shedding tears over what record the NFC West winner had? The season started 0-0 and they won every game they had to. They didn't care what record other teams had or how many divisions there were. I wonder why. They could have gone 8-8 or even worse and missed the playoffs. They didn't. Who is at fault? I suppose you blame that on the NFC West too.

 

[10 armed tkler]

And both teams were underdogs who went on to lose. And they both lost to the same team!

Does no matter, they beat out the rest of the NFC. Steelers did not blow either team out either. And in one of those years the Steelers were themselves just a 500 team.

 

[ndj101982]

Does no matter, they beat out the rest of the NFC. Steelers did not blow either team out either. And in one of those years the Steelers were themselves just a 500 team.

Bottom line is this: Too many divisions leaves too many opportunties for a team with a bad record to make it because they win a horrible division, vs a team being snubbed with a far better record that comes in 2nd in a far more difficult division.

Proposal: 3 divisions. 2 division winners get byes, the 3rd plays the wild card and there will be 3 wild card teams as opposed to just 2.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

Things are fine the way they are. Every team creates its own destiny. You have to take advantage of what's given to you.

Besides, St. Louis or Seattle will be crushed in their playoff game.

 

[10 armed tkler]

Bottom line is this: Too many divisions leaves too many opportunties for a team with a bad record to make it because they win a horrible division, vs a team being snubbed with a far better record that comes in 2nd in a far more difficult division.

Proposal: 3 divisions. 2 division winners get byes, the 3rd plays the wild card and there will be 3 wild card teams as opposed to just 2.

How many times has a 10 or 11 win team been left out of the playoffs for a division winner? It can not have happened more then 2 or 3 times. Do not blame the system, blame the team that did not do their job. 3 teams in one division can make the playoffs. If they are as good as you say they should be able to grab at least one of the two spots.

So no, there is no need to change anything.

 

[Laugh]

Every team creates its own destiny. You have to take advantage of what's given to you.

Very well said. I completely agree.