1st Congress of the Forum called...

[TicklemanBill]

Yaqi,

People have responded to how you've posted here regarding at least one of your models. While I have generally taken to your defense, giving you the benefit of doubt and assuming that you have no ill intentions, the way that you treated the subject seemed harsh and uncaring. It's certainly possible that I just misinterpreted you, in which case I apologize if that's what I did.

Regarding the removal of your model's link on your site, "because she had received a volumous amount of obsene, crass, lude and perverted mail," that's exactly what you should have done. You did the right thing and I applaud you for it. I do the same thing without question whenever a model wants to remove photos, an e-mail address, or a link from my site. Thankfully the majority of people have class and show respect, so it's pretty rare when there are any problems like that.

But then you go on to say regarding members of TMF, "Maybe I should post these emails, complete with headers, to demonstrate what I feel is brazenly offensive conduct by members of this forum."

THAT is the whole point, really, that you would even joke about printing otherwise private e-mail no matter what the circumstances. It just seems mean, just as it appeared mean when you joked that your model would have a lot of explaining to do. Thank goodness that you did the right thing and didn't embarrass her by outing her to her boyfriend, especially as her producer whom she should be able to trust to be discreet.

My assumption is that you would never make public any e-mails that were sent to you without actual consent from all parties involved, despite your joke to do so. It's also my assumption that you would never make public a model's involvement in any of your videos unless there was an appropriate reason to do so, despite the fact that you've teased about it.

On the other hand, as a model in one of your videos, simply because of what you stated publicly about at least one of your models, I might be inclined to be worried that you would do somehting to embarrass me. Even if a model is in one of your videos and it is publicly available, discretion should be applied. It shouldn't be assumed that everyone in the world knows about her involvement in a tickling video. But then, I have to believe that you know this quite well and act accordingly.

Please don't take offense to my post. It's not meant to be offensive. I'm just trying to get across to you that MAYBE you could be a little softer in your views when expressing yourself regarding your models.

Maybe you are already aware of the points being made here, with me and by others, but it's hard to know since you haven't publicly acknowledged them.

 

[TicklemanBill]

It does happen ...

ISUmark,

Yeah, it's no surprise that lewd e-mail would be sent to a model. My wife gets them occcasionally, though fortunately for us, it's pretty rare.

Whenever any of us involve ourselves in the arguably kinky world of tickling or otherwise "adult" material, we take the risk of being in uncomfortable positions.

Hopefully, however, most people will have class enough to be discreet and respectful about it, most especially when they are in a setting that warrants it.

I don't mind at all getting a little "out there" while we're naked and in the pool with like-minded individuals but when we're at some kid's birthday party, I expect and hope that people will use discretion.

 

[Sunday_10pm]

Yaqi, I would like you to post the mails. It would be interesting to see who sent them. And I apologise for my accusing remarks. Although I did mean what I said, I had got the wrong picture, and was taking your words out of context.

 

[ShiningIce]

Why pick on Yaqi???? As far as I'm concerned he's doing a great job with mainstreaming tickling and changing things for the better, dont jinx it.

 

[BigJim]

Re: Re: Interesting ...

She forwarded me the mail she had received and low and behold the vast majority of it came from members of the TMF. Maybe I should post these emails, complete with headers, to demonstrate what I feel is brazenly offensive conduct by members of this forum.

Hell yeah, good idea. The net is way to easy to hide in when you want to pray on people. Perhaps a little naming and shaming would be in order.

 

[Brafus]

Why pick on Yaqi???? As far as I'm concerned he's doing a great job with mainstreaming tickling and changing things for the better, dont jinx it.

Yea, he is doing a good job, but I think it is getting to his head. I for one, do not like the tone of his post's, and will no longer be buying any yaqi videos.

 

[BigJim]

Re: BigJim, forgot to mention

I too will never purchase from this producer, and I agree with the opinions you've expressed about this video here and on other threads. Good for you for backing your convictions with actions.

Thankyou EQ. Those words are much appreciated. For those of you who havn't seen the video and are curious, there is a write up of it at the Paradise Vision website. What that write up doesn't convey, is the misery, fear and revulsion that was all to easy to read on the girl's face.

When is was all over, the mindless ameoba who did the deed had the brass neck to say, "Calm down, it wasn't as if you were raped or anything." WHAT?!?!?!?!?!??? Now THERE is a good reason to reach for a pitchfork!

 

[TicklemanBill]

ShiningIce,

I was just responding to Yaqi. This issue isn't about him anyway. It's about how we act as ticklers and ticklees. It's about how much respect and dignity to others in the tickling community we want to give when they are open enough to involve themselves as fully as they have, such as being in a video.

Aside from this recent misunderstanding on my part, I have to believe that, I actually think that Yaqi is pretty cool. When I first learned about him, I thought it was really neat that he was doing what he does, and also thought that it was especially cool that he can be so open about it. THAT in itself is refreshing, VERY!

By the way, ShiningIce ... referring to others, really ... things don't get changed for the better if someone who is respected in the tickling community ends up dissing those involved. It gives those outside of the tickling community a reason to say to others just how crass we can be. It can give notice to those who are curious about tickling not to get involved because they will get burned if they open themselves up.

Linda Lovelace, for instance, does not help the adult entertainment community when she completely turns on them as she has because she's gotten religion and is trying to justify her starring roles in adult films, most notably DEEP THROAT. To quote the imdb.com database, "She fell in with the radical feminist movement, testifying before the Meese Commission on the supposed dangers of pornography."

For the record, despite the alleged abuse to some models by some members of TMF in private e-mails, I don't feel that it's appropriate to make those e-mails public. I will add, however, that I'm very curious about them, which tempts me to find a way to abrogate the privacy rights of which have been accorded to us in the United States.

Okay, so I'm not perfect.

 

[TicklemanBill]

Whoops ...

I missed a couple of posts.

I'm also one of those who believe that tickling fun should be consensual. On the other hand, with a willing adult of course, it IS a turn-on to see someone being tickled to the point where they have lost control of their senses.

For instance, I've bee heavily tickled to the point where it pissed me off and I was practically in pain from it, BUT the fetish part of my heart, mind and soul loved it. Bottom line? It was OK.

I've also tickled women whose instructions to me were NOT TO STOP tickling them no matter how much they protested, and this, while they were tied up. It was a huge turn-on of course, but I still had to be careful about it even though I had consent. Half the time they forgot their safe words and half the time we didn't even have any safe words. I just had to use common sense which isn't always so common with me sometimes.

 

[P.H. Tickler]

It's all about the cash

Good press, Bad Press, it's all about the cash.
Yaqi is attempting to cash in, and if people get hurt or embarrased along the way, don't even consider the fact that he gives a rat's a$$ about it...or you. this is true salesmanship, good or bad, you know the name.
My problem is that this blatant gold rush will have long term negative effects for everyone who involves themselves with tickling... Just the choice of media venues proves that. The whole mainstream thing is just nonsense, maybe if we all ignore him, he'll go away.... or at least stop painting the rest of us as idiots on Stern for the betterment of his bank account.