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And we clearly had different reactions to it, just as people are having different reactions to the accusations against Bill Cosby.Yeah thats the same Wikipedia article I read.
And we clearly had different reactions to it, just as people are having different reactions to the accusations against Bill Cosby.Yeah thats the same Wikipedia article I read.
Bill Clinton had a few law suits against him when it came to sexual misconduct. Only one woman claimed he raped her and her story was shoddy and brought up 20 years after the fact. Bill Cosby has yet to be sued, as far as I know, when it comes to the recent allegations, but the number of women who all have similar stories of rape or sexual assault makes it hard to deny, I feel like.
The comparison between the two bills doesnt really work and I remember the media villifying Clinton for his affair with Monica Lewinsky despite it being consensual. Kinda apples and oranges here.
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I've liked Bill Cosby ever since I used to listen to his comedy albums in the 1960s. Him, Red Fox, and Flip Wilson.
I couldn't possibly care less about these so-called allegations. As far as I'm concerned, they will never come close to marring the polish of Cosby's reputation.
I'm saying I have seen no reason to believe the allegations, and if they're true, it won't change my opinion of him.Are you saying they don't disturb you because you don't believe the allegations, or just that they don't disturb you?
I'm saying I have seen no reason to believe the allegations, and if they're true, it won't change my opinion of him.
I'm not aware of any allegations of underage rape, but admittedly I avoid tabloid news.
My opinion of Bill Cosby is that he is an incredibly funny and talented entertainer and I have fond memories of my Dad playing his comedy albums and all of the DAJT family laughing at his stories of the Chickenheart that Ate New York City, the go-kart races, etc. Bill Cosby and other black entertainers of the sixties were key in overcoming the racial hostilities of that must turbulent period of the last century. Comedians like Bill, Flip Wilson, and Red Fox. Then there were musicians like Nat King Cole, The Four Tops, the Temptations, Sammy Davis Jr., not to mention the blues artists like BB King, Willie Dixon, and Muddy Waters.
I would go so far as to say they were as effective in the cause for civil rights as MLK, because they won us over in droves. They broke through the walls of fear and ignorance and we loved them. Not everybody, of course, but I would say a vast majority.
So whatever Bill has done with these women won't ever change any of that, for me. I'll still remember him as that funny guy that made us all laugh.
Please refrain from twisting what I say about one individual into a sweeping generalization. We're talking about Bill Cosby and nobody else.So basically, you're okay with people who rape/molest? In general, anyone who is actually proven to have committed those crimes still deserves (your) reverence?
Well gee, that sure is a relief, knowing I have your permission.It's okay to hold on to whatever good memories you have of someone
You didn't ask me about the law. You asked if my "opinion wouldn't change of someone who, should these allegations be true, had raped underage girls."but no one is above the law
Sorry, but you have absolutely no authority whatsoever to dictate what should or shouldn't disgust people.and people should be disgusted when someone does things like that to another person.
Well gee, that sure is a relief, knowing I have your permission.
Sorry, but you have absolutely no authority whatsoever to dictate what should or shouldn't disgust people.
Please refrain from twisting what I say about one individual into a sweeping generalization. We're talking about Bill Cosby and nobody else.
So whatever Bill has done with these women won't ever change any of that, for me. I'll still remember him as that funny guy that made us all laugh.
You got it, Smiley.So even if all the allegations of all the women against Cosby turn out to be true, it won't change your opinion of him to you? He's just a "funny guy" to you?
Actually, I'm almost always sitting down when I'm on the TMF.Wow, what a stand-up guy you are.
I'll be happy to as soon as you stop expressing your opinions as declarative, authoritarian statements.Please refrain from interpreting my stating my opinions as declaring I have some authority over people.
Nobody's asking you to. It's an absurdly simple matter to qualify a statement as an opinion. Is it really that much trouble to say "I think that..." Or "It seems to me..."?I'm not going to write "in my opinion" before everything I say.
Well gee, that sure is a relief, knowing I have your permission.You can think whatever you want of Bill Cosby.
You'll have to be more specific than "okay." If you're asking if I think he should be immune from prosecution, the answer is no. If you're asking if his crimes will cause me to rewrite my entire opinion if him, the answer is also no.So then, if Bill Cosby happens to commit a crime, you're okay with that?
Because my admiration of the man has nothing to do with his legal record or how he treats women. I don't care about those things. They don't effect the reasons I like and admire the guy. If we were talking about a President, Senator, Mayor, or some public position of authority, that would be different. But he's a comedian and an entertainer. His personal life is his own business, in my opinion. (See how easy that was?)Why?
Personally disturbed? Because somebody doesn't think the way you do? Really? That's one of many differences between you and me. I don't harbor expectations of others to share my opinion. I strongly suggest you find some way to deal with people who don't opt for your lynch mob mindset. In this so-called "court of public opinion," put me down as FTA.I was personally disturbed that someone would continue to think highly of someone even if they were somehow proven to have hurt other people.
I'll be happy to as soon as you stop expressing your opinions as declarative, authoritarian statements.
Nobody's asking you to. It's an absurdly simple matter to qualify a statement as an opinion. Is it really that much trouble to say "I think that..." Or "It seems to me..."?
Well gee, that sure is a relief, knowing I have your permission.
Personally disturbed? Because somebody doesn't think the way you do? Really? That's one of many differences between you and me. I don't harbor expectations of others to share my opinion. I strongly suggest you find some way to deal with people who don't opt for your lynch mob mindset. In this so-called "court of public opinion," put me down as FTA.
You don't care how someone treats another person, especially if they possibly raped them? Again, no he hasn't been proven to have done anything, but you said if the allegations were true, you still wouldn't change your opinion of him. Sure, you can still admire someone and their work but you can also have disgust for them if they hurt others. If someone's personal life involves hurting others, then it isn't just their own business, anymore.Because my admiration of the man has nothing to do with his legal record or how he treats women. I don't care about those things. They don't effect the reasons I like and admire the guy. If we were talking about a President, Senator, Mayor, or some public position of authority, that would be different. But he's a comedian and an entertainer. His personal life is his own business, in my opinion.