Men's Only Forum

[OnnaOtaku]

My whole point here Vae was that posting this whole thing here where there are known trolls and the like is inviting them to do just that.....

There are unfortunately a handful who really do not respect the wishes of others, or have you not noticed that here and elsewhere on line....

That is all I have been saying all along....

I totally agree with you Ray. But, at the same time, we never thought it would become anything remotely and "controversial" as this. But like someone said in our thread, unless you post it for the women to use, you're only going to have a few members and that's no fun. Just inviting a handful isn't what we were going for. We wanted it to be open to all females, not to just pick a few and have a clique.

In retrospect, maybe we did go about mentioning it the wrong way, but with all due respect, why can't we annouce it to the women the way we did? People should respect it and ignore it as being something unrelated to them.

 

[venray]

I totally agree with you that you should be able to post it freely here....heck, I think you should be able to talk about ANYTHING here that you want without being blasted publicly in threads or pm'ed to death......

These are things that many of us within the community have been working towards for years here and on other boards....and among friends at get togethers, gatherings and other social events....

Unfortunately there are a handful that would do anything to see that this does not happen.....


That being said, know that you have the support of far more of us than there are of those that do not......

And you know where to come if you need help in any way.....

 

[OnnaOtaku]

I totally agree with you that you should be able to post it freely here....heck, I think you should be able to talk about ANYTHING here that you want without being blasted publicly in threads or pm'ed to death......

These are things that many of us within the community have been working towards for years here and on other boards....and among friends at get togethers, gatherings and other social events....

Unfortunately there are a handful that would do anything to see that this does not happen.....


That being said, know that you have the support of far more of us than there are of those that do not......

And you know where to come if you need help in any way.....

Thank you Ray! I'm sure I speak for everyone associated with our forum, we appreciate it. I'm glad you can understand and support us. I've gotten numerous PM's with support from both male and female members of the TMF. I am generally not worried about the small handful, but I am glad that you are one of the supporters.

 

[venray]

I TOLD you I couldnt resist a girl with a gun......

All kidding aside...I have many female friends here and would do anything to insure they have a safe and comfortable environment to interact in....

 

[OnnaOtaku]

I TOLD you I couldnt resist a girl with a gun......

All kidding aside...I have many female friends here and would do anything to insure they have a safe and comfortable environment to interact in....

And I can't resist a Santa with a gun! You are good peoples!

 

[ChosenofMystra]

I won't give names, but I've seen my fair share of creepy scary people in the chat room from time to time. Upon checking out their profile, it is true they are the peeps that have either no posts or a very minute amount.

I do agree that maybe you girls should have PM'ed the link to each other and let it spread from there so the jerks that want to prove their point and infiltrate to be their creepy little selves are none the wiser, but I support your idea as much as I do a male only forum. I never saw it as a means of segregation; more power to everyone! Let's all get along, peace on earth and all that rot

 

[OnnaOtaku]

I won't give names, but I've seen my fair share of creepy scary people in the chat room from time to time. Upon checking out their profile, it is true they are the peeps that have either no posts or a very minute amount.

I do agree that maybe you girls should have PM'ed the link to each other and let it spread from there so the jerks that want to prove their point and infiltrate to be their creepy little selves are none the wiser, but I support your idea as much as I do a male only forum. I never saw it as a means of segregation; more power to everyone! Let's all get along, peace on earth and all that rot

Thanks hun. You seem to be one of the few who gets the concept. I'll support any male forum as I do our female forum.

 

[Iggy pop]

I can understand some of the resentment from the men about "the woman's forum". Nobody likes being told they are not allowed or they are "not welcomed." Nobody likes to be excluded.

On the otherhand, I can also understand the reason women want a women's forum. Women are constantly harrrassed and pméd here. No, I don't care about your period and what dildo you use( actually I am interested in the dildo thing, but that is because I am a pervert) If it was not the harrassers then I do not think women would need their own forum, and woman issues could be a sub forum on the general discussion board. Yes I know that the men that cause trouble are a minority, but they are a persistant minority.

As for and all men's forum, first, I think this forum is male dominated here anyhow. Second, I think it would only be a place of nastiness with the main topics being women we don't like, women that look nothing like their avatars, and women who we really think are men. Nothing really constructive.

Finally I do have to say I am jelous of the women's forum. Why? Maybe there the questions, "Ladies, what is more ticklish your right or left foot?" or "ladies, are you more ticklish in nylons or without?" will not be asked 1000 times per month.

 

[Dave2112]

Last line had me in stitches!

You rock, Ig.

 

[Sunjob]

I like the idea of a man-place. A lot of times guys tend to hold back what they say in case a woman they like or are interested in reads it and thinks poorly of them, this could be a place to say what they like without that fear.

It might not work, due to the fact most guys keep quiet about "guy problems" (I doubt most guys would ask questions about their testicles, impotence or problems with erections where women can read) but it could be worth and shot. Heck, I just like the idea of half the most recent topics being about farting or beer!

 

[Vae]

I can understand some of the resentment from the men about "the woman's forum". Nobody likes being told they are not allowed or they are "not welcomed." Nobody likes to be excluded.

On the otherhand, I can also understand the reason women want a women's forum. Women are constantly harrrassed and pméd here. No, I don't care about your period and what dildo you use( actually I am interested in the dildo thing, but that is because I am a pervert) If it was not the harrassers then I do not think women would need their own forum, and woman issues could be a sub forum on the general discussion board. Yes I know that the men that cause trouble are a minority, but they are a persistant minority.

As for and all men's forum, first, I think this forum is male dominated here anyhow. Second, I think it would only be a place of nastiness with the main topics being women we don't like, women that look nothing like their avatars, and women who we really think are men. Nothing really constructive.

Finally I do have to say I am jelous of the women's forum. Why? Maybe there the questions, "Ladies, what is more ticklish your right or left foot?" or "ladies, are you more ticklish in nylons or without?" will not be asked 1000 times per month.

First of all, almost your whole post is hilarious, especially the last line!

I agree about one thing, for sure. If women weren't harrassed by the pesky minority, I know I would have never brought up the idea of a Woman's Only forum. That was the main reason for its creation, in my book, anyway.

 

[indivision]

As I said earlier, if a men's forum is made, I might consider joining. But I am not sure than many other guys would.

The reason you tend to see more women's groups in society (like in churches and other places) is because women, in general, tend to be more communal in nature. They have more of a tendency to want to get together and talk about things, while we guys tend to prefer to work out our issues on our own. This is not to say that either of these are better or worse than the other, nor is it to say that there aren't exceptions. But in general, that tends to be the way it is.

 

[maniactickler]

How come theres women posting in a mens only forum?

 

[Tamia78]

How come theres women posting in a mens only forum?

Hush Maniac. THIS isn't the Men's only forum....we're dicussing it, silly!
That's what you get for coming in late!

 

[SlaverTickler]

This is exactly why I posted what I did in the Women's Only thread. There is a big difference between women needing a place to talk about thier unique issues, and us starting down the slippery slope of "If they get one, we need one" stuff. Then, every possible delineation of our community is going to branch off and everything we've worked so hard on will fall apart.

Besides, this is a male-dominated forum already. I don't see a single need for us to further separate ourselves from the minority of women who are starting to open up and join our fold. Especially not for the simple reason of "They got one, so we want one."

Just my honest feelings.

Sorry Dave, by my grandpa didn't drive a tank so some people could have things while other can't. If the ladys get it, then the guys should to, other wise it's all just bull shit.

 

[SlaverTickler]

Hush Maniac. THIS isn't the Men's only forum....we're dicussing it, silly!
That's what you get for coming in late!

I'm confused, I thought cuming later was preffered... oh you said coming.

 

[TMF Jeff]

For god's sake, start one or don't. Do we have to talk about it forever?

 

[MrPartickler]

For god's sake, start one or don't. Do we have to talk about it forever?

LOL.

That's just it. We don't really want one. The whole idea seems silly to me. If there's something we want to post, we post it here. If we're embarassed to say it, we don't. Either way, it's fine; we blame no one but ourselves.

No offense to anyone, but we (guys) generally don't grab each other's hands and escort each other to the restrooms. We also don't grab the kleenex and pop "Steel Magnolias" in the DVD player. And we certainly don't run & hide from women! That's really the only way I'd view a TMF men's only spin-off. (I mean, I personally come here for both perspectives--not the sausage-only viewpoint.)

In part, I understand the backlash (mostly because I think the whole idea was just approached in the wrong way), but women generally approach things differently than we do. And, though we joke about it plenty, we're fine with that, right? So if they want an exclusive forum to discuss shoe sales, tampons, and window treatments...well, whatever. lmao. Just as long as they leave the remote & the beer, I'm good.

 

[drew70]

If there were a men's only forum, maybe some of these guys who only say what they think women want to hear will actually grow their own personality.

Vae, I love you to death, but it's really kind of silly to say that the point of the Women's Only Forum isn't to exclude the guys. Are we to believe that's just an unplanned side effect?

 

[Vae]

If there were a men's only forum, maybe some of these guys who only say what they think women want to hear will actually grow their own personality.

Vae, I love you to death, but it's really kind of silly to say that the point of the Women's Only Forum isn't to exclude the guys. Are we to believe that's just an unplanned side effect?

Are you seriously trying to drag this old one up? It's long dead, dude.

And, for clarification and perhaps to save me later aggravation, I said the MAIN POINT of the forum wasn't to exclude the guys. I understood that it would; I thought that was pretty obvious. The main point, if you had read my original post, was to give the girls a place to talk. That's all.

It wasn't meant to say, "you guys suck. we're making our own place!" which is how several people took it. I trust you're smart enough, Drew, that you're not thinking that either.

And last but not least, if you don't agree with my logic over the whole thing, I hate to be rude... but I really don't care. If that's what a couple of girls wanted to do, that's what they're going to do. Perhaps we didn't go about it in the best way (this I can agree on), but it really doesn't matter if somebody doesn't like it. If they don't, don't try to join it. End of story.

There. That help?

 

[huskys]

I personally don't have a problem with a 'Womens Only' forum, and am amazed that the debate still rages. I can fully understand the frustration of females with constant unwanted PM's and PC's in the chatroom.

I also don't recall anyone ever saying that that it was going to be a 'Male Bashing' thread or anything remotely like that. And from what I've seen, and who I've met, none of the wonderful ladies of the TMF would allow it to degenerate into that anyway.

And also, maybe it would help to discourage those persistant creeps, who are doing all the harassing, and trouble making in the first place. Especially if the ladies could get together and identify them.

Peace and love to all !!!

 

[Vae]

I also don't recall anyone ever saying that that it was going to be a 'Male Bashing' thread or anything remotely like that. And from what I've seen, and who I've met, none of the wonderful ladies of the TMF would allow it to degenerate into that anyway.

THANK YOU! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

I am vehemently against generalized male bashing. I'm just as much against it as I am female bashing. Why? Because the closest friends in my life are fucking guys. If I were to have it my way, I'd create a forum where the good guys could get in on the conversation, but really, let's look how bad of a fiasco that would cause if I even tried. Then I would be blamed for creating a clique and singling others out.

I think what has always bothered me the most about this entire, month long argument is that things were assumed of me, my behavior and my intentions. And on top of that, it wasn't just me. It was a handful of woman. No one EVER fucking asked what we were saying. Certain people just assumed. That kind of behavior disgusts me to the core and I hope that I have never treated someone else like that. If I ever have, here is your humble, dearest apology.

Thank you to all who understood it and did not take it as a personal affront. And hopefully this topic finally dies here.

 

[ViperGTS]

"zomg i cant shove my dick into something? wtf! im gonnabitch and moan about it now!!!1!!1onezors!!"

Oh shut up already. It's very unprofessional for anyone, letalone a 'big-time' video producer to be flipping out about a Ladies Only forum.

You wanna know something? I think it's pretty hot. Granted, I don't know exactly what goes on in there except for the few things Irish tells me about, but for all I know, they might be cybertickling each other to orgasm after orgasm, making each other cry and scream and such, and maybe even organizing to meet up and get in on with each other. Or maybe not.

Either way, I'm not nosy, and now I have a boner.

 

[OnnaOtaku]

"zomg i cant shove my dick into something? wtf! im gonnabitch and moan about it now!!!1!!1onezors!!"

Oh shut up already. It's very unprofessional for anyone, letalone a 'big-time' video producer to be flipping out about a Ladies Only forum.

You've said what I've been thinking.

 

[ViperGTS]

You've said what I've been thinking.

Why don't you say it?