Models Not Ticklish…and admitting it

[MattRyder]

Came across this. Model admits to not being ticklish at all. IMO, ruins the whole concept for me knowing that there is content out there that features fake laughter and reactions. I value genuinely and actual ticklish lees in video content.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFANXk1A/

What are your thoughts on models ‘faking’ their laughter or their reactions to being tickled?

 

[STORCH]

Came across this. Model admits to not being ticklish at all. IMO, ruins the whole concept for me knowing that there is content out there that features fake laughter and reactions. I value genuinely and actual ticklish lees in video content.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFANXk1A/

What are your thoughts on models ‘faking’ their laughter or their reactions to being tickled?

Hello,

what do you think, is the porn star Tiffany Brookes very very ticklish or rather not! Best regards

 

[Silverwolf9]

Still don't believe Cherie DeVille isn't ticklish. She got tickled several times by Kelli Lynn at TA. If that's fake... One hell of a performance

 

[delicatetouch]

Still don't believe Cherie DeVille isn't ticklish. She got tickled several times by Kelli Lynn at TA. If that's fake... One hell of a performance

I agree with this. If she wasn't her acting abilities are Oscar worthy.

 

[sceej56]

Incredibly disrespectful to the fetish fan regardless - tone of mocking them IMO. Even more disrespectful to the producers who paid her - she has to know this will hurt sales of vids with her in it - and does not care, she got paid.

 

[Oddjob0226]

She might say she’s not ticklish so that some of us lesser civilized tickling fans won’t asker her or even touch her in public. So many people say Ashley Renee is VERY ticklish, but when Bill & Debbie Major divorced he would tell people she wasn’t ticklish. I guess to metaphorically burn down all the past work of B&D Pleasures.

I’m sure many models exaggerate their ticklishness or ‘sweeten’ their performance, but as long as it isn’t obvious fraud & I can’t tell the difference, I just have my fun for the entertainment value that the video was created for.

 

[ChicagoDavid]

Agree with Oddjob0226. When the model says she was not ticklish, she could be lying, for whatever reason. If someone says, "I was lying before," my thought is, "either you were lying then or you are lying now - need more information if I want to know which time the person was lying!"

 

[magic fingers]

I don't believe her. I've seen models "faking ticklishness" before but nobody's that good an actress. IMHO she's definitely ticklish

 

[Jon56]

I agree. There needs to be a list of models who do this so people know to avoid paying for any of their content.

 

[nosforatiop]

I feel as though models who have made tons of tickling content generally get desensitized over time, and you can see it in their performances; overacting or just being really bad at acting. I won’t mention any other names because I don’t find anything inherently wrong with this; it’s fantasy and they’re fulfilling it for some people. In Deville’s case; she could be lying but I don’t really see why, it’s possible she’s very good at faking it just like some pornstars have been known to be really good at faking an orgasm. Either way why should you care? It could be that she’s either knowingly or unknowingly attacking the reputation of a company she used to work for. Maybe they mistreated her; who knows? Let’s be honest; TA (and I’m only mentioning them because they are somewhat central to this thread) had genuine lee’s toward the beggining and then there were a lot fakers toward the end, I don’t even know if they’re still in business because I don’t follow these things. Again, why should you care? Everything that’s been described here is why I only indulge myself with amateur companies who have genuinely ticklish models. Often they are not classically what society deems as beautiful but their reactions are what the kids call “fire” and personally I don’t care about classic beauty, I think these woman are often just as gorgeous. Just have fun with what appeals to you and let the rest of it work out as it may.

 

[Libertine]

Like any performer, if she gives an enjoyably convincing performance she's doing her job.

Or should it be compulsory to hire authentic murderers when casting Macbeth?

 

[Jezebel Lee]

Came across this. Model admits to not being ticklish at all. IMO, ruins the whole concept for me knowing that there is content out there that features fake laughter and reactions. I value genuinely and actual ticklish lees in video content.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFANXk1A/

What are your thoughts on models ‘faking’ their laughter or their reactions to being tickled?

Why are people always so shocked? If you guys constantly demand high-budget production with extremely ticklish 10/10s who absolutely hate being tickled and react wildly to every touch but are also somehow willing to get tied up and tickled on camera with their faces showing, of course there’s going to be fakery at some point. These expectations are not realistic, not 100% of the time. Maybe go and support models who are actually into the kink.

 

[Oddjob0226]

Like any performer, if she gives an enjoyably convincing performance she's doing her job.

Or should it be compulsory to hire authentic murderers when casting Macbeth?

Macbeth is known to be a fictional play, and is not fetish material.

I recall a Dutch fetish company - I know, the Dutch, right? Them again! - getting complaints that their fetish material was not authentic. Their response on their tickling videos was essentially the same; "Do you go to the cinema and expect Arnold Schwarzenegger to kill all of the people that he kills onscreen?"

It was an odd rebuff, and admittance, towards calls of fakery & consumer fraud. They apparently thought that they were dealing strictly in performance art. They put out a few more videos, then stopped updating, and in a year's time they were gone for good.

 

[Jezebel Lee]

Macbeth is known to be a fictional play, and is not fetish material.

I recall a Dutch fetish company - I know, the Dutch, right? Them again! - getting complaints that their fetish material was not authentic. Their response on their tickling videos was essentially the same; "Do you go to the cinema and expect Arnold Schwarzenegger to kill all of the people that he kills onscreen?"

It was an odd rebuff, and admittance, towards calls of fakery & consumer fraud. They apparently thought that they were dealing strictly in performance art. They put out a few more videos, then stopped updating, and in a year's time they were gone for good.

While it’s not the same thing as an action movie, generally speaking, porn is about “selling a fantasy”. People claim to prefer authenticity but then when you put authentic content out there, it’s met with a whole bunch of complaints.

Edit to add: This is not to defend fakery btw, personally I disagree with it too. Just wanted to give a potential reason.

 

[Phineas]

Oh, we're up to "consumer fraud" now? Gimme a break. Better call the cops on all those "candid" video stores and burn FTKL to the ground for not actually hiring spies and kung fu wizards.

Another reason models fake it is to get the shoot over with as quickly as possible because the producer's being a skeeze. That doesn't explain the ones who keep coming back, but it does with the ones who do with one guy and not with another. I've worked with at least one who was ticklish but who faked it with another dude because he wouldn't stop stabbing her in the ribs.

I would honestly be curious to see how much of "regular" pr0n is actually real, but something tells me those actors *aren't* actually step-siblings...

These expectations are not realistic, not 100% of the time. Maybe go and support models who are actually into the kink.

This, 100%. So many people here cry "fake" who've never been within ten feet of a woman. Like you'd effing know.

 

[Wolf]

Oh, we're up to "consumer fraud" now? Gimme a break. Better call the cops on all those "candid" video stores and burn FTKL to the ground for not actually hiring spies and kung fu wizards.
Another reason models fake it is to get the shoot over with as quickly as possible because the producer's being a skeeze. That doesn't explain the ones who keep coming back, but it does with the ones who do with one guy and not with another. I've worked with at least one who was ticklish but who faked it with another dude because he wouldn't stop stabbing her in the ribs.
I would honestly be curious to see how much of "regular" pr0n is actually real, but something tells me those actors *aren't* actually step-siblings...
This, 100%. So many people here cry "fake" who've never been within ten feet of a woman. Like you'd effing know.

Wait until they find out that even "genuinely ticklish" people react differently based on how much they trust the person doing the tickling.

 

[dashboard]

Oh, we're up to "consumer fraud" now? Gimme a break. Better call the cops on all those "candid" video stores and burn FTKL to the ground for not actually hiring spies and kung fu wizards.

Another reason models fake it is to get the shoot over with as quickly as possible because the producer's being a skeeze. That doesn't explain the ones who keep coming back, but it does with the ones who do with one guy and not with another. I've worked with at least one who was ticklish but who faked it with another dude because he wouldn't stop stabbing her in the ribs.

I would honestly be curious to see how much of "regular" pr0n is actually real, but something tells me those actors *aren't* actually step-siblings...



This, 100%. So many people here cry "fake" who've never been within ten feet of a woman. Like you'd effing know.

Wow I don’t think I’ve ever seen so much projecting in a single comment on this forum. Like, bro take it a notch and go outside for a bit. I can assure you it’s not that serious.

 

[Oddjob0226]

Wow I don’t think I’ve ever seen so much projecting in a single comment on this forum. Like, bro take it a notch and go outside for a bit. I can assure you it’s not that serious.

Yeah, I was thinking - who targeted HIM? What is he doth protesting too much about?

 

[Oddjob0226]

Oh, we're up to "consumer fraud" now? Gimme a break. Better call the cops on all those "candid" video stores and burn FTKL to the ground for not actually hiring spies and kung fu wizards.

Another reason models fake it is to get the shoot over with as quickly as possible because the producer's being a skeeze. That doesn't explain the ones who keep coming back, but it does with the ones who do with one guy and not with another. I've worked with at least one who was ticklish but who faked it with another dude because he wouldn't stop stabbing her in the ribs.

I would honestly be curious to see how much of "regular" pr0n is actually real, but something tells me those actors *aren't* actually step-siblings...

I've seen such videos. You're talking about story. They ain't faking the sex. The camera placement informs us that we're not watching an episode of The Red Shoe Diaries.

I've shot with 2 real stepsiblings (I had to get images of their I.D.'s as a legal requirement.) They were both crazy ticklish. On some shoots (not with me) they even got the mom/stepmom involved. Stryker has done at least 2 shoots with a mom/daughter combo. Tickle Intensive has used cousins (one has since retired if they were faking, the viewer had no hint.

A.N.A. has as well (sisters, too,) and Tickle Abuse, Sweet Southern Feet, Ice Princess, ASMRbabe, and any number of clips4sale or YouTube creators.

If you create something realistic this decade be sure to post it here on the TMF. No one called you out, but you sure squealed like you got hit by a blowdart while trying to hide something.

 

[Etienne2021]

This is something I'll always say. If creators were honest about the ticklishness of the models, or were upfront about their studio faking tickle videos, this wouldn't be an issue.

 

[turtleboy]

This is something I'll always say. If creators were honest about the ticklishness of the models, or were upfront about their studio faking tickle videos, this wouldn't be an issue.

The problem with this is the default assumption that producers must fake at least some of their content. For those of us that don't it's a no-win situation - whatever we produce, someone will inevitably assume that the laughter is fake or forced, based on their own experience, beliefs etc. Speaking purely for myself, I don't fake anything unless it is a specific custom request for the model to react a certain way, or give scripted reactions. That's something I dislike anyway and generally don't release such clips (I don't really do clips with stories etc). Likewise, I don't release clips if I don't think they're up to scratch or the model is having an off-day or whatever. I don't think I'm alone in saying I have nothing to admit to in this respect, but some viewers will never be persuaded.

If, however, the tickle clips you're buying involve a fantasy scenario, roleplay, story line etc then you should absolutely expect that not everything will be completely real. This is the point about Hollywood movies - if people have to act in the clip then they are going to be acting regardless of whether they are actually ticklish. They're required to say and do the things that the script requires. I find it odd that people want to see these scenarios but are then upset to find the model hamming it up. The simple solution is to not buy story-themed clips, but please don't assume that everything is fake just because a model had to act a certain way once.

I've seen such videos. You're talking about story. They ain't faking the sex. The camera placement informs us that we're not watching an episode of The Red Shoe Diaries.

I've shot with 2 real stepsiblings (I had to get images of their I.D.'s as a legal requirement.) They were both crazy ticklish. On some shoots (not with me) they even got the mom/stepmom involved. Stryker has done at least 2 shoots with a mom/daughter combo. Tickle Intensive has used cousins (one has since retired if they were faking, the viewer had no hint.

Ironically, mainstream porn contains vastly more fakery at every level than the average tickle clip. Porn models generally love sex but it doesn't mean that they love every scene or even enjoy them. I know plenty of situations where performers don't get along, actively dislike each other or the director/crew are massive assholes. Fake orgasms, fake squirting, even fake cum...they all happen, along with hours spent just trying to get the one money shot. And absolutely none of the step-daddy/daughter/mommy or neighbour scenarios are real of course. As you point out, many tickle producers do use actual siblings or relatives in their videos - I've shot with models' cousins, sisters, twins, mothers and best friends - and they're all legitimate relationships. That would never happen within mainstream porn where it is all pure fantasy.

 

[Wolf]

This is something I'll always say. If creators were honest about the ticklishness of the models, or were upfront about their studio faking tickle videos, this wouldn't be an issue.

People react differently to stimuli, based on any number of factors. They're not necessarily "faking".
You know that actual "non-consensual/no safeword" scenarios in real life could very likely be traumatic to a model, right?
Fantasies are one thing (and, generally, harmless); real life is another.

 

[Phineas]

If you create something realistic this decade be sure to post it here on the TMF. No one called you out, but you sure squealed like you got hit by a blowdart while trying to hide something.

Yes, because thinking you have a retarded take is the same as having something to hide. 10/10 logic Sherlock, would deduct again. Good job trying to Kafka-trap me but you're not as clever as you think you are.

Maybe we're just getting sick of you people banging the same drum over and over again over something that is literally impossible to disprove. Ever think of that?

My customers like my content just fine, thanks, and it is all "realistic" and genuine. I'll bet if I did post a link you'd magically find some problem with it though, because that's how this community works. All producers and models are liars until "proven" otherwise by people who've never even met them, so much as touched them. Funny, that. Much suspicious, very deceit.

This is something I'll always say. If creators were honest about the ticklishness of the models, or were upfront about their studio faking tickle videos, this wouldn't be an issue.

Oh, please. Like you fucking believe them when they are.

 

[Nedward]

It's always inspiring to see respectful and well-informed conversations about industry insights.

 

[jayson752003]

It's always inspiring to see respectful and well-informed conversations about industry insights.

Lmao I was thinking the same.....pretty much identical commentary from All involved, Every time.....i think they all just repeatedly copy n paste their comments from years gone by......you beat me to the punch. Kudos.