Pro work: Tickling only.

[janiper]

First of all, I would say that I am in favor of the idea. If you have the means and opportunity, go for it. To those that feel that making money off of it would cheapen a fetish I would say, does selling a book, charging for a movie ticket or asking for a donation to a museum cheapen those forms of expression? Yes, it's sad that there are those of us out there (for sadly right now I am one of them) that don't have an outlet for a fetish. I wish that everyone could have a partner (whether in a relationship or just a friend) that could fulfill every need and desire we have. (Be they tickling or otherwise.)
Sadly that is not the case. For those that can't, having a good, healthy outlet for those needs can be greatly freeing. This could not only make you money and make you happy, but bring a great deal of joy to the people that you would service. (That kinda makes it sound dirty...service...but you know what I mean.)

Sorry that went on so long. To sum up...nothing wrong with making money. It could make many people happy. Go for it and good luck!

 

[maniactickler]

Called it.

I will out bid you!

 

[rhiannon]

I have to admit that I, too, would consider tickling for money a form of prostitution. But seriously, what's so bad about it. In Germany, prostitute is a legal profession, they pay taxes and have to have social security.

Crystal, if you are able to do it, respect, I don't think I could. I'm just not a person who could touch whoever asked for it.

I don't think though that there is a big market for tickling only, as it has already been pointed out. You might have to offer other BDSM services along with it.

 

[Babyshambles]

At least somebody here agrees with part of something that I said.

I have to admit that I, too, would consider tickling for money a form of prostitution. But seriously, what's so bad about it. In Germany, prostitute is a legal profession, they pay taxes and have to have social security.

Crystal, if you are able to do it, respect, I don't think I could. I'm just not a person who could touch whoever asked for it.

I don't think though that there is a big market for tickling only, as it has already been pointed out. You might have to offer other BDSM services along with it.

 

[Soda Bobinski]

I won't lie ... I've long thought of ways to marry 'tickling' & 'making money'. It just kinda makes sense to me.

There are many professions out there full of people who LOVE what they do for a living. How awesome is that? I would kill to be able to go to work everyday & actually like what it is I'm doing. So yeah ... the idea of somehow making tickling into a "career" is not foreign to me.

However , like ViperGTS & Haribish! pointed out , for this idea to work , "clients" of all kinds would have to be accepted , not just the ones that were deemed "ideal" ( for whatever reason ). Otherwise , it can be seen as a form of discrimination.

Not to mention the fact that it would technically be running a business , so NOW you're getting the IRS involved ....... ugh! I'm thinking it might cause more headaches than it's worth.

I think venray brought up a good point , too , where if tickling were to become your "job" , it may affect how you enjoy tickling when you're NOT on the clock. I don't know this for a fact , but I'd have to guess that prostitutes & porn stars don't enjoy intercourse the same way they did before they became prostitutes & porn stars ( & I don't mean to associate prostitution & porn w/what you're proposing , CrystalLight ... just using 'em as an example ).

But who knows ...? Maybe the negatives don't have to outweigh the positives & this really could be something that takes off. Crazier things have happened. I , for one , wouldn't mind living in a world where someone going to a spa looks over the various services offered & asks for the tickle-treatment.

I would also see if that place is hiring.

 

[CrystalLight]

But who knows ...? Maybe the negatives don't have to outweigh the positives & this really could be something that takes off. Crazier things have happened. I , for one , wouldn't mind living in a world where someone going to a spa looks over the various services offered & asks for the tickle-treatment

Absolutely, and just as Bella said, it's no different then a massage therapist. That doesn't make them a prostitute.

I don't think though that there is a big market for tickling only, as it has already been pointed out. You might have to offer other BDSM services along with it.

I dunno, though. I mean, publicily and openly, there might not seem to be. But there might be folks lurking behind the scenes who aren't yet ready to come into the open with it.

Offering other BDSM services might make things tricky..

Sorry that went on so long. To sum up...nothing wrong with making money. It could make many people happy. Go for it and good luck!

No worries. Great post.

Doctors and nurses are doing a paid job as paid professionals.

They have qualified and are certified to practice.

And are thus helping other people whilst making money. So what?

However, TICKLING ON THE TMF IS SEXUAL!!!

Um. No, it's not just sexual.

You are not selling lollies or donuts, you are selling a sexual service.

You're mostly implying that everyone of us here involve ourselves in tickling for the sole purpose of some form of sexual gratification. When that is not even true.

 

[jude38]

So. CrystalLight. even if you were to offer such services, when would you find the time to even meet clients? according to your profile in the 515 days + or - that you have been on this forum you have posted better than 10,000 responces. that averages out to about 18 posts a day. seems you never leave the computer, so why even bother to entertain the thought?

 

[rhiannon]

Absolutely, and just as Bella said, it's no different then a massage therapist. That doesn't make them a prostitute.

Careful, there are massage parlors and "massage parlors".

I dunno, though. I mean, publicily and openly, there might not seem to be. But there might be folks lurking behind the scenes who aren't yet ready to come into the open with it.

Offering other BDSM services might make things tricky..

Hm, you think those lurkers wouldn't go to a dungeon like there already exist some? Because there is more stuff offered than tickling?

Tricky how?

You're mostly implying that everyone of us here involve ourselves in tickling for the sole purpose of some form of sexual gratification. When that is not even true.

You are right about that, not everybody on here does tickling sexually only. But do you think people who do it just for fun would (have to) pay for a session?

 

[rhiannon]

So. CrystalLight. even if you were to offer such services, when would you find the time to even meet clients? according to your profile in the 515 days + or - that you have been on this forum you have posted better than 10,000 responces. that averages out to about 18 posts a day. seems you never leave the computer, so why even bother to entertain the thought?

18 posts a day can be done in an hour or two!

 

[Em Es]

They can take it or leave it

Crystal Light - no sugar, but still so sweet - I wish you well should you pursue this endeavor.

Rhiannon, you said, "I have to admit that I, too, would consider tickling for money a form of prostitution. But seriously, what's so bad about it? In Germany, prostitute is a legal profession, they pay taxes and have to have social security."

Well said! What consenting adults do is no one's business to judge unless it affects others. And Crystal taking money from a guy to tickle him hurts nobody and makes the guy laugh like hell.

But does tickle-for-pay fall under the prostitution umbrella? (Now there's an umbrella that is sure to pop up!) Here's one definition of prostitution:

"work of prostitute - the act of engaging in sexual intercourse or performing other sex acts in exchange for money, or of offering another person for such purposes"

While tickling of course sexually arouses many, I don't think every person who likes to tickle or be tickled connects it with sex, so I would say tickle-for-pay is not prostitution, by that description.

Then there's this definition:

"misuse of talent or gain - the use of a skill or ability in a way that is considered unworthy, usually for financial gain"

Explaining the practice that way, I'd say tickle-for-pay is prostitution, but then, corporations that collude to inflate prices are prostitutes, too.

 

[rhiannon]

About the whole prostitution-or-not-discussion I have another question:

Is a domina a prostitute or not? And one way or the other, why is she or why isn't she?

 

[Em Es]

Pro dommes

Rhiannon, domination is not prostitution by the first definition I listed a minute ago. By the second, maybe, but then, it would be the least offensive form of it.

 

[rhiannon]

Well, what a domina does is not sexual intercourse, but it is a sex act, isn't it?

 

[Babyshambles]

About the whole prostitution-or-not-discussion I have another question:

Is a domina a prostitute or not? And one way or the other, why is she or why isn't she?

Any person who provides sexual services and sexual gratification for money is a prostitute.

This would be prostitution.

Think of it like this. Let's say that somebody from the forum is accused of being a prostitute and they argue that what they were doing is not a form of prostitution, then I would say that being on this forum proves sexual intent.

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Needless to say, this is a sexual forum, and taking money for tickling will be deemed to be a sexual service by anyone who has to make an informed decision.

On a side note,the TMF has disapperaed from the sexuality category. Does anyone know why that is
?

 

[Em Es]

No, Rhiannon

Not by the first definition, which applies to sex.

 

[rhiannon]

@ EmEs: But sex isn't just sexual intercourse! There are different forms of sex.

 

[BellaRisa]

Doctors and nurses are doing a paid job as paid professionals.

They have qualified and are certified to practice.

It is a legitimate profession, and yes - it is possible to help people and be paid for it.

However, TICKLING ON THE TMF IS SEXUAL!!!

You are not selling lollies or donuts, you are selling a sexual service.

Whether or not you get turned on by it yourself, you are selling a sexual service. That makes you a prostitute, which - by my reckoning is still illegal across most of the world - and most parts of America.

If anyone does this - be under no illusions - they ARE a prostitute. They ARE putting their self in some danger from men. They ARE exposing their self to the LEGAL risk of criminal action.

You don't get to decide what is or isn't a 'legitimate' profession.

The legalities of it are a separate issue, one that will be resolved over the next generation or so as the ridiculous and prehistoric notions of sex mixing with the so-called 'moralities' of the few are finally dealt with properly. We have separation of Church and State for a reason. Meanwhile, someone who takes pride in their work and studies their craft, handles themselves professionally AND enjoys what they do is no less noble than someone who treats their job the same way but has a different, nonsexual vocation. A nurse, a teacher, a professional party clown or a Dominatrix who specializes in tickling all deserve respect and appreciation if they do their jobs well and take excellent care of their clientele. As for whether or not it's prostitution, the better question is why sexual work is still an issue in 2009.

 

[Em Es]

Rhiannon

Here we go again!

 

[Babyshambles]

And you don't get to say that it is legitimate.

Being a prostitute is a blight on society in more ways than one.

It is not a very healthy thing to do.

Here's the test - take away the monetary value and would people still be prostitutes?

People do other things without money because it benefits them in some other way.

I have never heard of anyone being a prostitute for free.

You don't get to decide what is or isn't a 'legitimate' profession.

The legalities of it are a separate issue, one that will be resolved over the next generation or so as the ridiculous and prehistoric notions of sex mixing with the so-called 'moralities' of the few are finally dealt with properly. We have separation of Church and State for a reason. Meanwhile, someone who takes pride in their work and studies their craft, handles themselves professionally AND enjoys what they do is no less noble than someone who treats their job the same way but has a different, nonsexual vocation. A nurse, a teacher, a professional party clown or a Dominatrix who specializes in tickling all deserve respect and appreciation if they do their jobs well and take excellent care of their clientele. As for whether or not it's prostitution, the better question is why sexual work is still an issue in 2009.

 

[BellaRisa]

And you don't get to say that it is legitimate.

Being a prostitute is a blight on society in more ways than one.

It is not a very healthy thing to do.

Here's the test - take away the monetary value and would people still be prostitutes?

People do other things without money because it benefits them in some other way.

I have never heard of anyone being a prostitute for free.

...what?

Prostitution is sex for compensation. You can't be a prostitute for free by definition. That certainly doesn't mean one can't enjoy the work and do it well. Furthermore, there are many valued jobs that most wouldn't do for free; my insanely wealthy dentist wouldn't even think about your teeth for free, does that mean he's not 'legitimate'? Hardly. As for the big bad blight on society, the same can be said for just about any job done badly or irresponsibly; bad teachers and corrupt politicians are a far worse blight than the girls at the Bunny Ranch in Vegas.

EDIT: how in the hell did I allow myself to get into a hissy with Shambles?? Thought I had more sense than that, I'm taking my fetish-video makin', apparently ho-bein' self outside

 

[jude38]

prostitution is the oldest profession in the known world. is it wrong? in my opinion, no. it has it's place and purpose. would i pay for tickling or to be able to tickle a pretty girl without guilt? yes i would! i think maybe the bigger question is this.

is it ok to exploit a persons fetish for the simple act of making money?

if i go to a prostitute and say "here is my money, i want to tickle you for my sexual satisfaction" she says yes, we have a good time we part ways and transaction done.

but if said prostitute comes up to me knowing of my fetish and using it to her advantage as far as money goes, then i see that as exploiting me. if i can pay her 100 dollars then annouce i want to tickle her is one thing. if she knows my fetish she could easily charge doubble and play upon my desires to get even more.

thats what this thread sounds like to me. CrystalLight knows of the nieche that needs to be filled. men or women wanting to be tickled or be able to tickle a pretty girl. so lets get the maximum ammount of money for the services i render.

 

[WheresThe Clip?]

First of all Babyshambles, lighten up. The fact is most sexual encounters between men and women have some sort of financial backstory. Look around you, and you won't find many beautiful (and highly respectable pillars of society) females, married to poor penniless guys. Not only that, but somewhat ironically females who do 'give it up' to poor penniless guys, are often the ones who are judged to be loose and without morals etc.

Anyway moving on to Crystal Lite's idea. Now the fact is in my desperation over the years for Tickle experiences as a Lee, I have periodically gone to professional dommes for this specific service. In the main it has never really worked well because they don't get our fetish in the way we do, and instead are more interested in bringing their own interests into the session.

Similarly my current girlfriend is the first one I have ever met (and I am now in my mid forties) who has tried to indulge me in this, with additional bondage/lingerie thrown in as well. Yet even then she doesn't get it either and I am constantly having to coach her with: where, how long, how hard, how soft, etc. which basically kills it for me.

So yea if there was someone who lived within a reasonable commuting distance (which you're not as I live in the UK) who was actually a genuine Tickle fetishist, then I would be a customer.

 

[dad1]

I think it's a great idea!

It's not prostitution. Tickling isn't sex. We all know that. Crystal's business proposal could easily fly as some kind of new age therapy service.

The problem would come from angry housewives who catch their husbands going to Crystal's House of Tickle. They would not easily embrace the "oh honey, it's just therapy," line. Women can be terribly jealous sometimes. My sister has a cow if her husband even gets a massage from a woman.

So there will be people out to ruin your business. They'll assume it's sexual and they'll try to prove it. If you can be prepared for that, I think you can really do this!
XO

 

[ViperGTS]

Would be willing to pay that extra money to get your tickly hands on her?

Is no, then you don't have to pay. If yes, then that's not exploitation - that's supply and demand, which is one of the most basic principles that drives any economy, be it legal or not.

 

[rhiannon]

I think it's a great idea!

It's not prostitution. Tickling isn't sex. We all know that. Crystal's business proposal could easily fly as some kind of new age therapy service.

The problem would come from angry housewives who catch their husbands going to Crystal's House of Tickle. They would not easily embrace the "oh honey, it's just therapy," line. Women can be terribly jealous sometimes. My sister has a cow if her husband even gets a massage from a woman.

So there will be people out to ruin your business. They'll assume it's sexual and they'll try to prove it. If you can be prepared for that, I think you can really do this!
XO

Let's be realistic here.....a guy who comes to her to let her tickle him will most likely get sexually aroused by it. I seriously doubt anybody would pay for it if that is not the case.

If he gets sexually aroused by it, then it may not be sex, but it is at least sexual!