Tickled Creativity: In the Eye of Tickle Artisans/Writers

This THREAD is an invitation to exchange creative thoughts. (I'm "quite serious" this time but humor is always welcome).

Artists/Producers/Weilder of Pencils/Humble Artists/Amateurs or whatever genre of artist you wannabe, let's talk about OUR Fetish Art Philosophies/challenges and any relevant recipe to its flavor. Why tickle art?

Writers: What tickled your creative juices? Please share your philosophies and challenges.

To the rest: What do you appreciate and expect in tickle creations? What are your inner thoughts about it? How perverted is perverted?

hello there

I am Noeyes I tend to be writer.Some of my work is here, other bits on tickle theater and even in older issues of MTJ. The down side is I am no artist, strictly stick figures for this old man. I wish I had the talent but know I do not.
my writing however has been fairly well recieved and even praised.I tend to be long winded in them however. they start as a idea or concept and grow into tickle novels.
I find that once I begin to chew on the concept and Ideas for a story it tends to take on a life all of its own, therefore writing for me is not a chore its a pleasure.

I have been absent for the last few yrs due to some medical problems but I am on the mend and am slowly comming back into the community.In my absence though I had the use of this old lap top. I began to re polish some of my older work and begin a few new ones.

daydreams and sometines boredom work for me in my writing. I can spin a yarn on paper and kinda lose myself in it. they grow and charactors take shape once that is done it almost writes itself.

In a few of my day dreams I get visited by some of my charatcors who tend to urge me on,or sometimes scold me for being lazy. such is the joy of a fertile imagination I guess.

I hope to be back and more active here and in the cat room again in the next few weeks so hopefully I will chat with you soon
Happy Tickling Noeyes

Bohemianne said:

Writers: What tickled your creative juices? Please share your philosophies and challenges.

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I stopped lurking and registered at the TMF in 2002 because I had just written one of fantasies down and wanted to share it with like-minded people. That was the first story I posted, "The Sorority (parts one and two)".

I was and am still inspired by the desire to make my sometimes vague fantasies of F/m tickle torture into real, dramatic stories.

Bohemianne said:

Artists/Producers/Weilder of Pencils/Humble Artists/Amateurs or whatever genre of artist you wannabe, let's talk about OUR Fetish Art Philosophies/challenges and any relevant recipe to its flavor. Why tickle art?

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It was a challenge.
They actually challenged me to draw some tk art.

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I was some fresh new noob over Tickle Theater.
I cannot recall all the details, but they were talking about ticking pics.
This guy went along the lines of "really? let's see if YOU can draw something".

I duly drew and posted this pic, and eventually added the second char, turning it into a tickling pic of sorts.

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So, that is how it all started for me, back in late 2003.

When I started writing in the late 70s/early 80s, there was no such thing as the "Internet". No tickle stories whatsover were anywhere to be found. So I just had to write them myself, for my own private enjoyment. My first attempts were simply ludicrous, but slowly I honed my writing skills. I wanted my stories to please me, nobody else.

In the late 80s, I finally found some material on tickling, first in "Knotty", then in Penthouse's "Variations". This spurred me on to write more.

Finally, in the late 90s, I got access to the internet. I joined the early TMF on ezboard and started to publish a few of my stories there. The success kept pushing me onward. Nevertheless, I still wrote mainly for my own enjoyment. However, the stories of other writers were accessible to me then; for the first time, I was able to compare with their work, and also to learn from them (Max Speer and TeeHeeLawrence come to my mind, big thanks to you!).

The inspirations for my stories had various sources: My own tickle experiences with girlfriends and later with my wife, an interesting book or movie, and some were just the result of weird dreams, like the novel I'm writing right now.

Beautiful thoughts, thank you very much.
I really invite you, folks, to share your views on this because they are worth reading.

My first tickle drawings were god-awful scrawlings in a notebook that I hid under my bed when I was a teenager. They were for my eyes only because, honestly, who else in the world would like this stuff? 😉

It wasn't long after joining the tickling community and becoming an actual participating member that my art started to appear online. Rough and inexperienced, of course, but it was there. I had ideas, fantasies I've wanted to share with others for the longest time, so often my art is an outpouring of those things. In some way, maybe I'm still looking to have my fantasies validated by others. But I like to think that nowadays I'm simply adding to the variety of other people's daydreams. And that's a happy thought for me.

I used to write stories because I wasn't fully aware of my fetish and the environment I was in didn't allow me to explore the urges I had to do weird sex stuff to girls. As a sort of catharsis I used to write down the fantasies I had and post them here to the annoyance of many and the entertainment of few. Now I am grown up and I get my catharsis by whacking off to the free trailers you can get by the bucketload in the Video Clips forum. So I don't need to write anymore. I still do sometimes, but I usually get bored quickly and delete the story. If I could get over that hurdle I could probably make a more constructive contribution to the community. Or not.

When I first stumbled onto the tk community, it was during the heyday of Usenet. alt.sex.fetish.tickling and alt.multimedia.tk. I was impressed over the spirit of giving by so many who went out of their way to provide stories, pictures, and videos, so that all could enjoy them.

I wanted to be a contributor as well. I tried my hand at tk art, and came up with five original drawings, but it was too difficult and time consuming, with the outcome simply not worth the effort required. I wrote several tickling song parodies...well known classic songs with the lyrics changed to reflect a tickling theme. This kind of thing comes much more naturally to me.

Finally, I decided to invest time and effort into multi-track recordings in which I arrange the parts, sing, and do all of the instrumentation. My plans are to do song parodies and perhaps take a shot at a completely original tickle song. I've already recorded and posted an original song, Tickle Tackle. I'm now in the final stages of producing another audio recording, but this time a song parody medly.

Why? The same reason. I want to contribute material. Stories, videos, and drawings are art forms that are well represented, so I'm focusing on musical comedy.

I wrote a few tickling stories. It was ok, but to continually churn them out was hard. Because you know your audience isn't really reading them for the great use of figurative language. They are reading them to get off. And that kind of takes all the fun out of writing them... for me, anyway.

You can discuss the fetish all you like, but literal text is digital and the feeling of a moment in time can't be described any better than approximately using them. Art is organic and it can send a multi-dimensional message to the brain all at once. Some artists and writers on the forum are just so good at triggering the flavour of the guy slipping a feather under the girl's hem, or the feeling of being restrained and held in laughter mode while the tickler smiles gently at them. Some of them go beyond that, and delve into the question of <I>why</I> tickling is sexy for some of us in a way that actually helps demystify it to others.

For me, the point of writing is to share whatever talent I have with whoever out there might appreciate it. Erotic material is both shallow and deep, both mundane and wonderful, both primal and complex. I've appreciated the art and stories of others growing up, and-- as unhealthy as I'm worried this may sound-- I find the best-quality work much more arousing than any real-life encounter I've had. It's not about some fear or intimacy or anything like that... it's that abstract work allows for more freedom of the imagination than anything else. Whatever my next serious girlfriend is, I hope she's an excellent writer with even greater intrepidity.

My main obstacle has been the fear of posting without validation. ("What if people are too weirded out by this? What will they think of me?" and so on.) It surprised me because this is certainly the appropriate place for such posting, and no one has to view anything that doesn't suit their taste. And surely, the most talented artists and writers exercised at least equal courage.

What about you, Bohemianne?

I Might Have Mentioned This in Another Post, but If Not...

I'm a writer at the moment because I haven't learned to draw well enough to match the visions in my head (those visions resemble the work of Kondom, Sorayama, Norman Rockwell, James Bama & Drew Struzan, maybe even a little Reed Waller--always had a thing for the realists). But one day I hope to put the perverse opuses in my head on paper.

I treat any short story/novel (mainstream or erotic) as serious literature, and model my efforts on the work of writers known for taking writing very seriously. I tend to favor Peter David, Alan Dean Foster, Clive Barker and H.P. Lovecraft as my primary inspirations, but more often than not I find myself looking to Neil Gaiman and Mike Carey for the direction my stories take. My fascination with post-modern formalists like Alan Moore, Thomas Pynchon, Umberto Eco and a growing affinity for Mark P. Danielewski and William Gaddis seem to be coercing me into making my stories more complex and intertextual than they need to be.

I get most of my ideas from failing sleep, where you're semi-conscious but still too tired to get up; apparently my brain comes up with some pretty interesting ideas when it tries to distract itself. All in all, my stories have a ponderous tone that explores the meanings and feelings of tickling, albeit some of them with a Philip K. Dick/Richard Matheson twist at the end of some of them, most of them using sexual and excessive tickling torture as a method to express and explore those concepts. Although you could, like Giggle says, get off on my work, it's not as easy as others because the sexual content isn't as overtly graphic and peurile as it is in most other traditional tickling stories.

But writing anything takes a LOT Outta me because of my standards and quality control. So much so that the sheer size and scope of my projects often itimidate me into putting them off or stopping completely. That's why I've only published 3 stories and posted 1 in the story section http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=22056 (that one is the most graphic exercise in overritten gluttonous prose you'll see). I've been working on a few projects (a Rijhanna novel and 1 anthology follow up, 2 WKYW anthologies, a 2-vol. Victorian-era periodical, and an anthology of my own) for the last 5 years and now I've taken up another project recently that I've already half-scrapped and am re-writing now so...I'm 88% paralyzed at this time.

On a final note, I enjoyed the "figurative language" of your (2) stories, Giggle. You were able to write a first-person persepctive on the subjective experience of a lee getting tickled without falling into the old hat trick trap of falling into cliched pseudo-porn with lots of 'lee begging. You could actually convey accurante internal thoughts before during, and after with great insight, clarity and consciseness. It was efficient and poignant, and yes a wiiiiiiiiddddle arousing. But it was more fun than anything else, and more of a traditionally literal installment than much of what I've read on the forum. I think you should get back into it at some point.

Coda said:

What about you, Bohemianne?

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Better regard me as a plain "artlover." I’ve been through many facets of productive use of mainstream creativity. This unveiling of eroticism is so far a challenging plunge, where earning some cents is just an unavoidable consequence. My main motivation is always driven by passion for figure arts. Frankly speaking, I have purposely inclined into doing “adult stimulating” stuff, or otherwise I’ll just draw Mickey Mouse. Literally, my aim is to draw with eyes closed, imagining the universe’s carnal purity empowering, then this energy will stain my works with wicked hue/tinge so I can reach out to each viewers primitive “normal” sensibilities and communicate an artistic thought.

It is damn hard to put philosophy when doing erotic arts. I want to get the viewers beyond eroticism/fetish, no matter how distasteful (to selected few) some drawings have been visually carried out… for them to perceive the expression and relate their fantasies into the art. I’m not good enough to achieve it just yet. No artist/writer can’t deny a bit of himself/herself in each line strokes and phrases.

As of the judgmental…well: “a fish is always caught by its mouth…”

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Others, please share your thoughts...maybe this thread will bridge barriers and fears. Thank you for the posting, folks, I will keep on reading with great interest.

Amnesiac said:

On a final note, I enjoyed the "figurative language" of your (2) stories, Giggle. You were able to write a first-person persepctive on the subjective experience of a lee getting tickled without falling into the old hat trick trap of falling into cliched pseudo-porn with lots of 'lee begging. You could actually convey accurante internal thoughts before during, and after with great insight, clarity and consciseness. It was efficient and poignant, and yes a wiiiiiiiiddddle arousing. But it was more fun than anything else, and more of a traditionally literal installment than much of what I've read on the forum. I think you should get back into it at some point.

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When I re-read the 2 you're talking about, I cringe. Maybe it's because I'm my worst critic, who knows?

But I wrote another one that's floating around here somewhere called "Higher Learning" that I'm pretty proud of.

Please fill in...any other undertakers? I will appreciate much. Thank you.

I don't write anywhere as much as I used to.
A lot of my creative juices are now pointed elsewhere.
But when I did not have a regular "tickling" thing I wrote a lot. And when I did not have a full outlet. When the internet became so accessible with material I kind of stopped.
What fueled me was that I was sharing something personal. Something that was mine. My experience, my words, my style. A little part of me. I found that not only thrilling but a huge way to thank people for making me feel welcomed and not like some "weirdo".
Occasionally I still put something together. But not as often as I used to back in the usenet days.
Also its hard to write a really great story while I know a little one (one my my 2 kids) might come out to ask daddy something or wake up for some reason and then it ruins my train of thought.

But I enjoy everything that our community puts out. We have a lot of talent here, and I am honored that so many of you continue to grace us with your talent.
THANK YOU!

Rob

I've always been wonderfully pleased with the level and quality of stories and artwork that's been produced from the online community over the years. I remember joining A.S.F.T. back in 1994 and there seemed just a handful of us fertively sharing fond stories of our youth and experiences. It was productive then, and now that the community has grown to enormous proportions, it is productive now. There is a bewildering amount of work in these pages.

All that work, you can't help but become a little inspired by it!

Bohemianne said:

Artists/Producers/Weilder of Pencils/Humble Artists/Amateurs or whatever genre of artist you wannabe, let's talk about OUR Fetish Art Philosophies/challenges and any relevant recipe to its flavor. Why tickle art?

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I've always loved artwork of all kinds, and thought it would be be neat to partake in such a project. And because I don't excel in artwork by any stretch of the imagination, that's how I wound up producing it instead.

I love tickling, and love art, so the two naturally belong together in my mind. My biggest challenge has always been, and shall always be, striving to find the perfect balance to create the ultimate piece of artwork...a body of work that a tickler can appreciate, that a non-tickler could also appreciate. We all come here to share that one aspect of ourselves that we have in common. And yet, there are a million other aspects to being human that creep up (hence the general discussion sub forum). It is that commonality that I hope to get better at in future work, to make something more accessible.

It is not easy to do. But that's why it's a challenge 🙂

Bohemianne said:

Writers: What tickled your creative juices? Please share your philosophies and challenges.

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I had an overheated imagination as a child. It was not sexual then, naturally, but it never really went away. Now that I'm an adult living an adult's life which can be filled with certain levels of repetition and banality, it is easy to cast away the child and seek a certain level of grounding in one's life. But I try instead to merge the two, as we all do, to find inspiration. Merging an ordinary event in everyday life, with the crazy imagination of a child, can produce some interesting results.

Bohemianne said:

How perverted is perverted?

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It's harder for me to find true perversion in fantasy (although there's definitely some out there ). It is natural to have a sex drive and hold a fantastically diverse sexual court in one's mind. However, it is entirely another thing to act upon those fantasies with no discipline or regard for other people. So I personally tend to define perversion as a function of an action, rather than a thought.

Devoid of meaning

AnnieHall said:

I wrote a few tickling stories. It was ok, but to continually churn them out was hard. Because you know your audience isn't really reading them for the great use of figurative language. They are reading them to get off. And that kind of takes all the fun out of writing them... for me, anyway.

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Wow, so many writers. I am just entering the fray really. I hardly think that one story entitles me too much of an opinion. I’ll stick mainly to my insights as an observer and what inspired me to put my toe into the fray.

In my limited experience I DEFINATLEY don’t have the credibility to disagree with the Great and Illustrious Giggle/Annie Hall and I would beg her humble indulgence. I think that the way in which some people may misuse the things we write does not mitigate our intent or the impact of our work.

From a standpoint of figurative language, all you have to do is look around this thread for people that genuinely look read and interpret work looking for its quality. I know that in my personal experience even when I was first introduced to this forum and overwhelmed with the volumes contained there in that I was always conscious of the word phrases that people used to describe things. Now as someone who has undertaken the first step in crafting together a work for public view I can’t read anything without thinking how things could have been worded of what synonyms could have fit a scheme better. There are those on this board who are not just interested in a quick fix.

To me in the grand scheme of things the quality of the work while important in our growth as author’s is irrelevant to the much bigger question. For me, the much bigger question is: WHY? Why are well all here? What makes us tick? Why do we eroticize the things that we do? Why do we express it the way that we express it? Why do we crave the illusion of having or loosing power? These are all the interesting questions that some vanilla psychology book unfortunately cannot answer for us right now, in my opinion. Creative expression gives us the opportunity for an informal soliloquy about our deepest desires and motivations in a way that is both informing and entertaining. I was inspired to write my first piece not so a 20 something would be kept busy for an hour. It was an attempt to answer a meaningful question in a READABLE way. That’s why the majority of my writing focuses on the interaction and integration of emotional states much more than just the act of tickling that we all know so well.

When I look at the stories that people write, more than anything I see little case studies. Creative free expression is one of the most honest ways that we communicate with ourselves. Putting that in the public forum gives other people the opportunity to identify with, reject, analyze, and better understand the different perspectives that we have on the same basic ideas. It never ceases to amaze me how many different iterations there are of our particular interest and how compatible or incompatible those particular iterations are for each other.

Take the two stories referenced above, written by the incomparable AnnieHall, as examples.

Part II. For me this was intriguing for two key reasons (we all know that it was written two years ago and over that time everyone grows as an author). I can’t claim to be able to pigeon hole her exact intentions or expressions, biut I’ll share what I got out of the two pieces. The first was the fundamental descriptive language used to illustrate the raw emotions of being a lee. As amnesiac said, it went a tad bit more in depth than “oh please stop no not there.” It gave a very good illustration of the experience that a lee not only goes through, but desires because the author is a female lee and it was written as a partial self portrait. As newer people especially newer lers are exposed to this then they get a much better understanding of the fantasy that they have to create for their partner beyond their own personal obsession. I think we all know the tragedy of the ASL what do your feet look like are you ticklish generation. I know that as I made my independent study of some of the work submitted by lees it gave me a much better understanding of what they were really looking for.

Beyond general descriptive language there is a VERY big psychological word problem in the backdrop of the words that are seen. You have a female main character that on some level fundamentally eroticizes being punished to a certain extent for charter traits that she is proud of and fundamentally contribute to the way that she derives her self esteem (in this case bluntness and sarcasm). That’s heady stuff ladies and gentlemen. Then couple that with the fact that even though in the particular piece the main character orchestrated the encounter, the ultimate goal was to be generally overwhelmed by her male partner. That’s a big snapshot of the masochistic (loose term) mind that you can’t get in the chat rooms of the discussion boards.

For me just reading this particular story was extremely enlightening because I was writing about the last 25% of my first story “The Death of Friendship” that is based in large part on the exact same train of thought but from the perspective of the ler. While it was very stimulating it was also an interesting peak through the looking glass. The reason that I anxiously await her comments and feedback on my piece is not for self gratification or stroking my ego (not entirely anyway) but for the purpose of comparing notes so that I can better understand the female lee perspective and go on to answer even bigger questions in meaningful readable ways.

The lists of questions to ask surrounding this very basic scenario are almost limitless. The greatest of them all is probably: how do you develop a long term healthy mutually supportive and nurturing relationship while still maintaining the inherent passion trigger? That’s a big question. It is also a question that you will 99 times out of 100 not get answered in general dialogue, because the human brain shuts down when it has to think. Thankfully it opens up when it is allowed to express itself freely. It also opens up to be more receptive when it is being entertained. That is why in one of my next stories over the next month I will make my own humble attempt to answer the question of long term integration of this particular facet of our fetish experience into a functional nurturing relationship. I personally think that such a practical example written in an entertaining form can be very helpful for people just starting out or people in relationships that are wondering how to take the next step.

Her other piece, “Higher learning” was just as if not more informative. This work was even MORE descriptive in its figurative language (I was jealous), but it still held pears of wisdom far behind its beautiful words. One of the most striking things that I have observed (not that I have taken a formal survey) is that there are probably just as if not more women who eroticize the abduction fantasy as there are men. This is a huge tidbit of information. There are women in sexually compatible healthy long term relationships that are incapable of achieving orgasm because they do not have a sufficient level feeling of safety and security with their most guarded intimate secret-their sexual enjoyment. At the same time we have women signing up for mock abductions at NEST. That’s an interesting dichotomy at least to me anyway. In the case of higher learning it was a younger woman seeking a much older man-that doesn’t fit any psychological archetypes right off the top of my head, lol. There is the greater question of bondage possibly being about fear of abandonment for either party. You can just go on and on.

Really all that I am trying to say is that our contributions will only be devoid of meaning if we make them that way. To me they are lasting testimonies to the beliefs, desires, and fantasies that we ourselves as writers have accumulated as we formulate them into fictional entertaining works. Looking amongst us I see very many people who take seriously the figurative language used to describe very abstract concepts of thought and emotion. At the same time I see an opportunity for people to interact with naked parts of another persons consciousness bared in the form of a story that is both profound and entertaining. I think that this is a really big key in giving people an opportunity to be exposed to different trains of thought or believe and answer key questions that they may have about their partners of themselves.

I have tried this level of dialogue in the chat rooms, and the response is very predictable. Asking someone what their deepest fantasy is generally gets a blank stare, but they will have a link to three stories they posted. People don’t like the idea of thinking and their brain shuts down (like an after-school special), but for some reasons the instant gratification of reading or in some cases writing can be what gets someone from page one to page two or from one idea to the epiphany that lasts a lifetime for them. I also would not under-estimate the audience that we have before us. Someone once used the example of NEST as a cross section of society just like getting on a train or a subway. There are ordinary people of all creeds, races, backgrounds, and literary discrimination all over this board. I think that the more we have an opportunity to interact in creative abstract ways the greater chance we have of gaining more specific answers to internal questions that most people don’t even think about. Bohem has given us a glimpse to the collective power that we all have together as thought leaders. Our ability to collectively share ideas and concepts will not only add to our ability to create entertaining work, but meaningful work.

Thank you to everyone for your contributions and time.

JJ82277

Thank you very much!

Keeping this thread alive means having a reference...Let us share thoughts and bridge the barriers.

jj82277 said:

Wow, so many writers. I am just entering the fray really. I hardly think that one story entitles me too much of an opinion. I’ll stick mainly to my insights as an observer and what inspired me to put my toe into the fray.

In my limited experience I DEFINATLEY don’t have the credibility to disagree with the Great and Illustrious Giggle/Annie Hall and I would beg her humble indulgence. I think that the way in which some people may misuse the things we write does not mitigate our intent or the impact of our work.

From a standpoint of figurative language, all you have to do is look around this thread for people that genuinely look read and interpret work looking for its quality. I know that in my personal experience even when I was first introduced to this forum and overwhelmed with the volumes contained there in that I was always conscious of the word phrases that people used to describe things. Now as someone who has undertaken the first step in crafting together a work for public view I can’t read anything without thinking how things could have been worded of what synonyms could have fit a scheme better. There are those on this board who are not just interested in a quick fix.

To me in the grand scheme of things the quality of the work while important in our growth as author’s is irrelevant to the much bigger question. For me, the much bigger question is: WHY? Why are well all here? What makes us tick? Why do we eroticize the things that we do? Why do we express it the way that we express it? Why do we crave the illusion of having or loosing power? These are all the interesting questions that some vanilla psychology book unfortunately cannot answer for us right now, in my opinion. Creative expression gives us the opportunity for an informal soliloquy about our deepest desires and motivations in a way that is both informing and entertaining. I was inspired to write my first piece not so a 20 something would be kept busy for an hour. It was an attempt to answer a meaningful question in a READABLE way. That’s why the majority of my writing focuses on the interaction and integration of emotional states much more than just the act of tickling that we all know so well.

When I look at the stories that people write, more than anything I see little case studies. Creative free expression is one of the most honest ways that we communicate with ourselves. Putting that in the public forum gives other people the opportunity to identify with, reject, analyze, and better understand the different perspectives that we have on the same basic ideas. It never ceases to amaze me how many different iterations there are of our particular interest and how compatible or incompatible those particular iterations are for each other.

Take the two stories referenced above, written by the incomparable AnnieHall, as examples.

Part II. For me this was intriguing for two key reasons (we all know that it was written two years ago and over that time everyone grows as an author). I can’t claim to be able to pigeon hole her exact intentions or expressions, biut I’ll share what I got out of the two pieces. The first was the fundamental descriptive language used to illustrate the raw emotions of being a lee. As amnesiac said, it went a tad bit more in depth than “oh please stop no not there.” It gave a very good illustration of the experience that a lee not only goes through, but desires because the author is a female lee and it was written as a partial self portrait. As newer people especially newer lers are exposed to this then they get a much better understanding of the fantasy that they have to create for their partner beyond their own personal obsession. I think we all know the tragedy of the ASL what do your feet look like are you ticklish generation. I know that as I made my independent study of some of the work submitted by lees it gave me a much better understanding of what they were really looking for.

Beyond general descriptive language there is a VERY big psychological word problem in the backdrop of the words that are seen. You have a female main character that on some level fundamentally eroticizes being punished to a certain extent for charter traits that she is proud of and fundamentally contribute to the way that she derives her self esteem (in this case bluntness and sarcasm). That’s heady stuff ladies and gentlemen. Then couple that with the fact that even though in the particular piece the main character orchestrated the encounter, the ultimate goal was to be generally overwhelmed by her male partner. That’s a big snapshot of the masochistic (loose term) mind that you can’t get in the chat rooms of the discussion boards.

For me just reading this particular story was extremely enlightening because I was writing about the last 25% of my first story “The Death of Friendship” that is based in large part on the exact same train of thought but from the perspective of the ler. While it was very stimulating it was also an interesting peak through the looking glass. The reason that I anxiously await her comments and feedback on my piece is not for self gratification or stroking my ego (not entirely anyway) but for the purpose of comparing notes so that I can better understand the female lee perspective and go on to answer even bigger questions in meaningful readable ways.

The lists of questions to ask surrounding this very basic scenario are almost limitless. The greatest of them all is probably: how do you develop a long term healthy mutually supportive and nurturing relationship while still maintaining the inherent passion trigger? That’s a big question. It is also a question that you will 99 times out of 100 not get answered in general dialogue, because the human brain shuts down when it has to think. Thankfully it opens up when it is allowed to express itself freely. It also opens up to be more receptive when it is being entertained. That is why in one of my next stories over the next month I will make my own humble attempt to answer the question of long term integration of this particular facet of our fetish experience into a functional nurturing relationship. I personally think that such a practical example written in an entertaining form can be very helpful for people just starting out or people in relationships that are wondering how to take the next step.

Her other piece, “Higher learning” was just as if not more informative. This work was even MORE descriptive in its figurative language (I was jealous), but it still held pears of wisdom far behind its beautiful words. One of the most striking things that I have observed (not that I have taken a formal survey) is that there are probably just as if not more women who eroticize the abduction fantasy as there are men. This is a huge tidbit of information. There are women in sexually compatible healthy long term relationships that are incapable of achieving orgasm because they do not have a sufficient level feeling of safety and security with their most guarded intimate secret-their sexual enjoyment. At the same time we have women signing up for mock abductions at NEST. That’s an interesting dichotomy at least to me anyway. In the case of higher learning it was a younger woman seeking a much older man-that doesn’t fit any psychological archetypes right off the top of my head, lol. There is the greater question of bondage possibly being about fear of abandonment for either party. You can just go on and on.

Really all that I am trying to say is that our contributions will only be devoid of meaning if we make them that way. To me they are lasting testimonies to the beliefs, desires, and fantasies that we ourselves as writers have accumulated as we formulate them into fictional entertaining works. Looking amongst us I see very many people who take seriously the figurative language used to describe very abstract concepts of thought and emotion. At the same time I see an opportunity for people to interact with naked parts of another persons consciousness bared in the form of a story that is both profound and entertaining. I think that this is a really big key in giving people an opportunity to be exposed to different trains of thought or believe and answer key questions that they may have about their partners of themselves.

I have tried this level of dialogue in the chat rooms, and the response is very predictable. Asking someone what their deepest fantasy is generally gets a blank stare, but they will have a link to three stories they posted. People don’t like the idea of thinking and their brain shuts down (like an after-school special), but for some reasons the instant gratification of reading or in some cases writing can be what gets someone from page one to page two or from one idea to the epiphany that lasts a lifetime for them. I also would not under-estimate the audience that we have before us. Someone once used the example of NEST as a cross section of society just like getting on a train or a subway. There are ordinary people of all creeds, races, backgrounds, and literary discrimination all over this board. I think that the more we have an opportunity to interact in creative abstract ways the greater chance we have of gaining more specific answers to internal questions that most people don’t even think about. Bohem has given us a glimpse to the collective power that we all have together as thought leaders. Our ability to collectively share ideas and concepts will not only add to our ability to create entertaining work, but meaningful work.

Thank you to everyone for your contributions and time.

JJ82277

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see, i told you no one likes to talk about this stuff.

jj82277 said:

see, i told you no one likes to talk about this stuff.

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^ You just said collective power....They will drop by soon just be patient.

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My path to writing at the TMF was a less than conventional one.

Those who've corresponded with me here already know the scoop, but I was seriously injured a few years back, and at the time, I desperately needed a distraction from my injuries and the day to day struggles I was facing.

I found that writing about past experiences, specifically foot and tickling experiences I had with various people in my life, was enormously comforting. It enabled me to focus my thoughts and energies on times in my life that predated this stressful experience.

On the whole, it's been a good experience. A number of people have truly enjoyed my posts, though some found them controversial. The personal benefits of writing have made the process worthwhile. On a personal note, I'm feeling much better now, and continuing to write.

Interesting topic for a thread!

As a contributor of both fiction and art, I can say (at least for myself) that there's a big difference in the creation of both. Hell, even the reasons I do one or the other are different. Of course, I haven't written in a dog's age, being more into the art angle of late, but there is one thing both seem to have in common. The purging of demons. Again, at least for me.

Now, I can't speak for those who don't "play" on a regular basis, or those who never have...but I've been there and the reasons I wrote back then was simply to explore the things I really wanted to do. I was writing long before the InterWeb days, and that was always just for myself. Things I wanted to see, things I wanted to do or just generally insane trips through the dark recesses of my twisted widdle bwian. I specifically remember one LONG set of stories I'd written about a very rich woman who ran a "brothel" of sorts that catered to fetish clients. The "madam" found various ways to tickle-punish her girls for even the slightest of transgressions. I think I wound up writing about 150 or so pages! Of course, no one has ever seen it but me, and I couldn't even venture a guess as to what became of it.

All of that was kind of a warm-up for when I started writing on the TMF, where I got my start. Like many of us, I knew I wasn't "alone", but had no idea of how big this thing of ours actually was until the InterWeb came along. Those of you who were around back then probably remember the insane amount of stories I wrote in the first six months or so of my arrival. Those early stories I'd written for myself honed my skills in character development and story creation. If there was a tiny little spark of an idea in my head for a scenario, I wrote about it in this mad rush of creativity that I'll probably never re-create. I mentioned "purging", the concept of getting all that pent-up crap out of your head, but for me the writing was much more. I basically wanted to just write good stories that had tickling in them, rather than "tickling stories", if that makes any sense. My favorites were always the ones that could stand alone as a story even if you switched the tickling out for something else. The sci-fi or horror-based stories with a "hook", those were the ones I really enjoyed writing, because I didn't feel like I was writing "porn" per se, but real fetish erotica. Stories like "Mind Over Matter", "The Torturer's Apprentice" and "Silent Lucidity" were my faves just for that reason. (All of which can be found in my archive...shamless plug! 😀 )

As for the artwork, I probably never would have even gotten into it if not for the advent of CGI technology. I've won several GF awards here for my artwork, and the truth is, I can't draw for shit. Not people, anyway.

Again, when I was younger, I toyed around with it. For myself. I'm sure many have done this when discovering the actual depths of their fetish...I used to draw the girls in my fantasies by actually tracing the form outlines from magazine or comics that I liked and that I could get a good "pose" from...then drawing all the "stuff" in the image myself. I was actually pretty good at the ropes, restraints, machinery...I just couldn't draw people to save my life.

I like to think that I've found my own niche with my artwork. A lot of people use Poser and the like, but I try to use it as little as possible and do the rest by other means. I hate it when "traditional" artists say that CGI isn't art...at least as far as the way I do it goes, there's a shitload of stuff that you just can't pull off if you have no "eye" or feel for artistically representing yourself.

And that's what it's all about. If my stories were creative releases, then my artwork is a more base representation of what I actually like. The things I actually like to do. It's very base, to be honest. I like hot girls, I like them in strict restraint, and I like them tickled in a serious BDSM-sorta mind-set. Of course, a lot of my stuff is more light-hearted, as I also have that aspect to my kink. But in general, the things I create are the after-effects of a seriously disturbed mind. Fans of my work know my penchant for restraint devices, 99% of which I create and design myself. There's just something about "apparatus" that turns me on. The helplessness of female flesh meeting the unforgiving steel, wood, leather and graphite of machinery. It's a powerful mental image. It comes from a deep-seated place full of...well, I guess you have have it to know it.

This is why I like the works of guys like Augustine and few others. few tickling artists use gags and heavy restraint, so when I see something that's along the lines of what I like and what I do, I'll go right to it. Sometimes, it's not even really the level of 'talent" in the art itself, but what that art represents. And I think that's the important thing. Another of my faves, Bandito, isn't as hardcore, but there's a certain "something" about his work that reaches me on a deep level. It's not only in the drawing itself, but the implied sexuality, the intent if you will.

Well, anyway, I've rambled enough. Sorry for the long-windedness. I hope this thread continues to grow, it's a great topic!

I started writing and posting stories on the forum as a way to share myself in a way I cannot share myself in my personal life. I am not a professional writer but I really try to put forth a good story for people to experience and read. I like the thought that I can bring a moments joy in someones life, that maybe they can read my stories and put themselves for the moment into the fantasy, to picture it, to feel it. My stories are erotica but for the pure romance and heat of erotica. I like to think I am expressive and share fantasies people can relate to.

I feel a kindred spirit with the writers of the forum. I have read MANY an excellent story here. I wish to thank all the fine writers of the forum for letting me indulge in fantasies with them. And for some, share in their truths.

My apologies for bumping this once again...there might be new undertakers this time. The thread is worth reading based on rich comments. I invite
n00bs and non-n00bs to give this another chance.

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Thank you for your time.