10 Things I Hate About Tickle Videos

[HOP2POP]

I've purchased a TON of Tickling videos from all kinds of producers and the ones that kill me the most are the FAKE TICKLISH models. I'll take an average looking but very ticklish girl over hot nonticklish models ALL DAY.

Oh yea. One more thing. I can't stand when they tickle a girl in an area where they know isn't ticklish for her just to please a few fans. Tickle her where she is Ticklish please. I pay per min
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[jmsdarke]

Thanks for posting the poll and for the replies. I hope other producers use the information to better their product as well.

That was my primary purpose for posting this poll. I wanted all tickle video producers to get a 'pulse' of the market, our community.

BTW, a reminder to all producers, visit http://groups.myspace.com/FetishMedia to promote your tickle videos on our live 9 x 9 moving video wall.

JD

 

[MPtickle]

That was my primary purpose for posting this poll. I wanted all tickle video producers to get a 'pulse' of the market, our community...
JD

Very good poll!

I just want to add that we "the producers" need that kind of feedback to
be able to produce content that you guys want.

I agree with everything you guys are saying here.
I also admit of being guilty of some of the charges mentioned here
and I will work very hard not to make the same mistakes twice.

Thank you
Creth
http://www.clips4sale.com/store/8617

 

[jmsdarke]

Very good poll!

I just want to add that we "the producers" need that kind of feedback to
be able to produce content that you guys want.

I agree with everything you guys are saying here.
I also admit of being guilty of some of the charges mentioned here
and I will work very hard not to make the same mistakes twice.

Thank you
Creth
http://www.clips4sale.com/store/8617

I'm glad you value it. Don't feel bad tho bro, I wrote the poll and have at times been guilty of a few of these infractions as well. It's more an issue of being less likely to commit offenses once we know just how offensive they are to our customers.

JD

 

[harvey]

A very worthwhile poll, sir.
Now we can only hope that a few of the clip & video producers will READ and TAKE HEED.

 

[TickleHaven]

It all comes down to this...

I think it all comes down to this....the girls must actually be TICKLISH - NO fakers, or partially ticklish girls.

No one will sincerely complain about a clip if the girl is really, genuinely ticklish. They may nitpick, but no one will feel ripped off.

We can debate the nylons/barefoot thing forever, that simply comes down to what you prefer.

But if the girls are ticklish (and you actually tickle her and not just talk), the clip is probably pretty good

 

[ZenTickling]

I just started producing clips after buying/downloading clips for a few years and I've realized that it's harder than most people think. No matter what you do, you won't please everybody. I agree with Tickle Haven, the most important thing is a sincerely ticklish model.

Having spent the last couple months discovering out how hard it is to find these kind of girls, I'm a bit suspicious of producers that pump out new clips every day. I've had numerous models who wanted to shoot tell me they're aren't ticklish at all, but they are good at faking it. Needless to say, those emails went unanswered.

 

[TickleHaven]

I pump out clips every week - BUT - I spent 4 years producing them 😀

 

[Sunday_10pm]

Ticklehaven, I do agree that a ticklish model is obviously a must, but it is SOO annoying when it had the potential to be absolutely awesome, but gets ruined by something that need not be in there, so I definitely see the point in all these other complaints.

If you have the key ingredient for a perfect video, it's almost more annoying!! To see a perfect 'lee tied securely at the mercy of... a useless tickler!! d'oh! or tied to a rickety little bed with some string that hardly does anything, or totally overlit. These things can and do ruin a clip and leave us wishing it had been done better.

One other niggle I have, I dunno if it's been mentioned, is when the tickler laughs loads with the lee, and you either can't tell which is which, or its a guy's laugh totally eclipsing the girls'.

 

[ZenTickling]

I agree that a ticklish model is obviously a must, but it is so annoying when it had the potential to be perfect, but gets ruined by something that need not be in there, so I do see the point in all these other complaints.

One that really gets me is when the tickler laughs loads with the lee, and you either can't tell which is which, or its a guy's laugh totally eclipsing the girls'.

I can also see the point of some of these complaints, but whether or not a tickle video is 'perfect' depends on the viewer.

 

[quinn65]

great idea!

Great thread...thanks James. Somebody should sticky this one and maybe another about favorite scenes & techniques so the producers can find them fast when we're brainstorming & editing...

I'll echo what Zen said...while producing vids is a ton of fun, it's also harder than it looks. Not so much in a labor-intensive sense, but rather in terms of scripting, quality, and customer satisfaction.

For us...and this may be more true for amateurs who don't use professional models...sometimes it's hard to act on customer feedback. Contolling what your friends do in a shoot is like herding cats. We've started before by saying, "Ok everybody, don't talk so much and try not to laugh over the ticklee" or some such stuff, and then......whatever happens happens.

I mean, you guys try to boss around H&K and Dianna and Jackie and see what happens! 😉

Eventually my conclusion for tickle shoots was to listen to customers, try our hardest, do what sounds fun at the time, follow the models' ideas, keep it fast-paced, and then just let the camera roll and hope for the best. There will always be some who like the result and some who don't, and they can vote with their wallets. I guess if we had a company motto it would be "hope you like it!" 🙂

Pax,
-Q.

 

[Canadian Ninja]

First of all, I do not agree with the nylon bit. Saying that the preference of nylon over bare and not shooting twice is akin to tunnel vision, as I recall it being put, is something in the field of ludicrous. Sure, you've got nylon people not caring that a nylon clip isn't shot twice as a barefoot clip, but how many people will bitch that a barefoot clip needs to be shot twice for nylons? And more importantly, how often does either side win that battle? Besides, I can only think of one company that regularly does that, and considering I don't have a link on hand, that doesn't say much.

Aside from that, though, I have to agree and my vote goes, without decision, to fake reaction. It's a complete turn-off and the clip is likely deleted shortly thereafter.

 

[TickleHaven]

Ticklehaven, I do agree that a ticklish model is obviously a must, but it is SOO annoying when it had the potential to be absolutely awesome, but gets ruined by something that need not be in there, so I definitely see the point in all these other complaints.

If you have the key ingredient for a perfect video, it's almost more annoying!! To see a perfect 'lee tied securely at the mercy of... a useless tickler!! d'oh! or tied to a rickety little bed with some string that hardly does anything, or totally overlit. These things can and do ruin a clip and leave us wishing it had been done better.

One other niggle I have, I dunno if it's been mentioned, is when the tickler laughs loads with the lee, and you either can't tell which is which, or its a guy's laugh totally eclipsing the girls'.

Sunday--ur definitely right. We think alike. I HATE when the 'ler laughs as much as the lee, it definitely drowns out the lees laughter and basically ruins the clip for me. The laughter gets contagious-in fact i did it when i started making clips. That's why I shy away from the g/g stuff, because girls who aren't into tickling are very susceptible to that.

Also, ticklers that stop tickling as soon as they find the right spot is truly irritating. As well as ticklers that talk too much!

 

[jmsdarke]

Saying that the preference of nylon over bare and not shooting twice is akin to tunnel vision, as I recall it being put, is something in the field of ludicrous.

Since you're possibly refering to my comment, I'll respond here.

There are quite a few threads on this topic reaching back a few years. What I reffered to as "tunnel vision" was a series of comments in (in the past) which people have stated plainly and emphatically that they "don't want nylon tickle producers to also shoot the nylon models bare foot because there are already too many producers who make such material".

My use of the term tunnel vision specifically reffers to the sense that such people don't want others to also have what they desire. I have not flipantly choosen my words.

Hopefully that clears up the issue, gives my perspective and some background and reduces the temperature on this issue. As I do not wish to engage in a shouting match over nuance and clarification, I won't be further belaboring and dragging this into a sub-thread.

JD

 

[Nylon tickler]

2. You only see her feet tickled with nylons on
When I see a great ticklee tickled only in nylons and never get to see her bare feet tickled, I actually feel like I’ve lost something. I am preoccupied with wondering what her bare soles look like and how they respond to tickling directly on her tasty bare flesh. I guess I will never understand why tickle video producers who shoot nylon tickling don’t take them off at the end and give a little bare sole tickling for the rest of us.

well i could tell you somethin to the second answer. All People outthere have a other tickling fetish or maybe just an Foot fetish. I'm honest the nylons turn me absolutly on, they drive me crazy in my head and my mind. I can't do anything against it. So i don't like really the Barefoot Clips.

When i'm watching a nylon tickling clip and this Clip is great but after a few Minutes they ripping the nylons off and tickling just on the Barefeet then I am disappointed. I'm just a nylon lover and no more. The most of the tickling companies are ripping the nylons to fast off (example: The Clip is 8 Minute long, just about 2 Minutes or less are nylon tickling and the rest are Barefeet)

This is my opinion and i know most of the Forum here haven't a nylon fetish like a bunch of us. I'm very happy to see some of the Tickling Producers like Guilt who made Nylon Clips without ripping the Nylons or Barefeet tickling.

There are so many Tickling Companies outthere and most of them have just Barefoot tickling, Belly Button, Underarm or ripping the nylons.

 

[jmsdarke]

Somebody should sticky this one and maybe another about favorite scenes & techniques so the producers can find them fast when we're brainstorming & editing...

I really agree on this. It would likely raise the quality of product in the tickle video scene.

I'll echo what Zen said...while producing vids is a ton of fun, it's also harder than it looks. Not so much in a labor-intensive sense, but rather in terms of scripting, quality, and customer satisfaction.

Yes. Most who complain (and have the right to do so of course) don't really know just how much work goes into this stuff. I have stuff that I've shot months ago that i haven't even captured in yet to edit.

Contolling what your friends do in a shoot is like herding cats.

We must have the same cats.

JD

 

[jmsdarke]

When i'm watching a nylon tickling clip and this Clip is great but after a few Minutes they ripping the nylons off and tickling just on the Barefeet then I am disappointed. I'm just a nylon lover and no more. The most of the tickling companies are ripping the nylons to fast off (example: The Clip is 8 Minute long, just about 2 Minutes or less are nylon tickling and the rest are Barefeet).

I can really see how ripping the nylons can be a reall kill-joy for nylon tickle lovers. I much prefer to shoot a nylon scene and a bare foot scene so each type of tickler can have his cup of tea.

I haven't ripped nylons and don't plan to do so.

JD

 

[pgt1400]

"All of the above" is a choice missing in the poll and that would be my answer.

 

[mongoslade2g]

This poll was a great idea. More than anything, it is a constructive way for the customer to tell the producers what they want, and DON'T want to see. As a consumer, my biggest pet peeve is a non-ticklish model. I have been producing tickling films for about 7 years and I release a limited amount of material because I know right at filming if the model is ticklish. I hate to see a non-ticklish model so I won't release it to the public. On the other hand, some models who were "mildly ticklish" have been very popular on occasion. Bottom line not everyone will like everything. Some films that I have produced people have said are their favorite and others said they hated the same film (based on the preview, because paying customers have never complained about our films, honestly.) You just never know. As a producer, you have to do what get's you "up" and hope that it get's someone else "up" , too. Great thread, though.


-SLADE


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[Nylon tickler]

I can really see how ripping the nylons can be a reall kill-joy for nylon tickle lovers. I much prefer to shoot a nylon scene and a bare foot scene so each type of tickler can have his cup of tea.

I haven't ripped nylons and don't plan to do so.

JD

Than they need the tickling companies more just one store like Frenchtickling. They made just a store for the nylon tickling Clips and one only for Barefeet tickling.

Like you said before the other companies have to shoot a nylon tickling clip and then a Bare foot Clip. That is the best idea for everyone.

 

[skelyrata]

All of the above...

OH My GOD! I am so glad you brought the "guy that laughs like a retarded while he is tickling the cute girl" issue. He is so anoying! I hate him too! Iuk!

Great topic!

About clips4sale

First of all, I wanted to clarify the pricing system on clips4sale. They actually impose a minimum price on short clips. If a producer posts a 3 minutes clip, clips4sale forces you to charge $3.99.

Now, with longer clips, clips4sales gives you more freedom for prices. Things actually start turning good after 20 minutes. Which is why I insist in making 60 minutes videos because is where I can give the best deal for $34.99.

Now, for those of you who don't know this, the producer doesn't get the full price of those clips. Clips4sale keeps 40% of the price.

Now, in no way I am making clips4sale the bad guy! There is no question about their huge contribution to the entire fetish community by providing a platform that makes very easy to setup and sale clips. I just wanted to clarify the pricing issue.

As long as you buy 3 and 5 minutes clip you will be paying more. But if you go for the longer clips you will see some savings.

 

[llllllll]

I've purchased my fair share of clips over the years, so I guess I feel entitled to share my dislikes.
1. When someone's feet are being tickled, they should not be motionless. Even if someone isn't ticklish, and a producer doesn't care and shoots a tickling video with her anyway....for the love of God tell her to wiggle her feet around! Don't just sit there while someone furiously scrabbles their fingernails on your soles like your paralized from the waist down. Tickling is kind of like an action-reaction thing. I realize it may be tough finding ticklish models, but tell them to at least act like it. Please!

2. Plots. Any and all. Really, how many spies in the real world capture another one and tickle her? C'mon. Less talky, more tickly. No offense, but most of the storylines are so f-ing goofy, it takes away from the eroticism. Brief introduction are good, even casual conversation, but try to shy away from double agents and genies popping out of bottles. Remember, these are just opinions people. Other people may love cheesiness.

3. Forced laughter. I know for a fact that ticklish women do not ALWAYS laugh when tickled. One of my old flames of 4 years laughed the vast majority of the times I'd pin her down and give it to her, but if she was pissed or cranky, she would still react and wiggle, but she didn't always giggle. She just tried to get away. I'd rather hear nothing and see the awkward expression on a model's face, than listen to fake, coerced, obnoxious laughter that isn't even choreographed to the tickling.

There. I feel better. Sorry if I offended anyone, again, these are only opinions. I wish I was in a situation where I could produce my own videos. But I can't, so thanks to everyone who does. I hope this thread helps weed out people who are truly into the fetish, and chumps trying to steal money off of our perversion!


Dan

 

[quinn65]

I can really see how ripping the nylons can be a reall kill-joy for nylon tickle lovers. I much prefer to shoot a nylon scene and a bare foot scene so each type of tickler can have his cup of tea.

I haven't ripped nylons and don't plan to do so.

JD

Last time the nylon-ripping thing came up in another thread there were some who chimed in and said they liked it.

I usually try to shoot a nylon and then a barefoot scene, and include the nylon ripping as the opener to the barefoot part. Didn't used to do it that way...I think I used to include it in both...but that's how I roll now.

I guess if I hear from enough rip-haters out there I'll just leave it out altogether. Woohoo! Cost savings.

-Q.

 

[Canadian Ninja]

Since you're possibly refering to my comment, I'll respond here.

There are quite a few threads on this topic reaching back a few years. What I reffered to as "tunnel vision" was a series of comments in (in the past) which people have stated plainly and emphatically that they "don't want nylon tickle producers to also shoot the nylon models bare foot because there are already too many producers who make such material".

My use of the term tunnel vision specifically reffers to the sense that such people don't want others to also have what they desire. I have not flipantly choosen my words.

Hopefully that clears up the issue, gives my perspective and some background and reduces the temperature on this issue. As I do not wish to engage in a shouting match over nuance and clarification, I won't be further belaboring and dragging this into a sub-thread.

JD

I'd first like to clarify that I didn't think there was any real temperature on the issue at all. However, now that you have explained it, I'm inclined to agree in most cases.

I say in most cases because in some, it just doesn't make sense. Guilttrip is a prime example; his store might as well be called Nothing But Nylon Tickling and his intention has been stated numerous times that it's pretty much a nylon speciality store and, if memory serves, I do remember several comments asking him to do videos with bare feet. That just makes me think, "Doesn't that defeat the purpose?"

Personally, my opinion is to just have an even assortment of videos. Nylon, ripped nylon, nylons then removed, bare, sock, what have you. I simply don't see the point in technically shooting the same clip twice just to appeal to a different crowd.

I'd also like to end this note with a bit of surprise at the lack of hostility here. I'm rather impressed that it hasn't degenerated, as you said, into a shouting match.

 

[Happyman]

really? I liked the cheesy plots of old realtickling.com I know the actual stories were (and could never) be that good, but it made each more unique, also makes it instead of having just one big folder titled "hot girl gets tickled while tied to bed" you can have "gang ticking" "sorority tickling" "mad gf tickling"...

I've purchased my fair share of clips over the years, so I guess I feel entitled to share my dislikes.


2. Plots. Any and all. Really, how many spies in the real world capture another one and tickle her? C'mon. Less talky, more tickly. No offense, but most of the storylines are so f-ing goofy, it takes away from the eroticism. Brief introduction are good, even casual conversation, but try to shy away from double agents and genies popping out of bottles. Remember, these are just opinions people. Other people may love cheesiness.





Dan