1000 Member Update Special !

[His Divine Shadow]

Personally, I can't decide. I LOVE all aspects of your work. Just keep it up and I'll always be there to cheer you on!!

 

[critterlord]

Oh, Celtic, I never ment I was going to completely copy it. I just meant that I was going to work off your model. Let me transgress.

I enjoy the way your faces work. I would like to try redoing your facial constuction, hair and all. Also, you have resparked my love for snake tickling. I will try my own picture, essentually doing a full body picture, using my attempts at Pai's head, and the snake idea. I would like to make it a tribute to you. All I am trying to do it replicate the head, and giving you full credit for the drawing.

If not, that's cool too. I just wanted to try and improve my artwork by patterning after the best. After I tried the picture, I would take what I liked and what worked, and adapt it into my own work. If it wasn't for such addaption, I would have no artwork. I got my ideas from U. N. Owen, learned how to draw feet from Dark Convoy, how to draw arms from Gripped Chimp, and I was hoping to try adn learn faces from you, as you capture a joy and laughter in your artwork that I would love to achieve. As always, I would make it a Tribute to you, one of the best who helped me along.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

@ HDS- Thank you, thats very encouraging. 🙂


@ critterlord- Just call me by my real name. We're friends now, so theres no need for the SN names. Again, I think its a wonderful idea, and it truely is touching that you'd want to model yourself after me and the others, and that I'm your inspiration, but I want you to realize you are wrong about one thing.

You do no need us to make your own way here. I want to stress again, as I did in one of your threads, that it is ALL IMPORTANT for a new artist to develop their own style in the early going. I realize you have to start somewhere. Its probably just that I don't think its a good idea for you to be using different aspects of our art style in order to identify yourself. Identify yourself by your OWN merits. A tribute picture would be even more rewarding if it was completely original in every way, shape, and form, and you used your essense and nothing but, to create it.

I do also realize its a rough business, even if this arena is for amateurs (for the most part). Despite my art, I'm not reaching as many people as I'd like, and most of my members are quiet, afraid, or intimidated, and I wish that weren't so, but I want to help you. You have my consent. But I want you to do me a favor. Once you've gotten used to drawing, I want you to prove to me that you can develop your own style. You can use our styles as stepping stones, but nothing more. I want to see some result come from this idea of yours. I'm holding you to this. I have faith that you can do it, and I'd like nothing more than to see it for myself.


- Damien

 

[critterlord]

Thank you. I realize how important this is to you.

On your other topic, I am trying to learn to draw tickling art, nothing more. I have come this far by using the ideas of others, and changing them to work for what I wish to do. This is how I work. I gain inspiration, and use it. All my stories are produced in the same way. Are they not original?

I have NEVER drawn before, and I need a really big springboard. I do all of this for all of you. I rarely, if ever, enjoy my own work. I am simply using proven formulas, and formulas that I like, to create my artwork. I believe I have created my own style already, but I am never too proud to learn.

I appreciate the sentiments, Damien, and I truly understand where you are coming from. I just have the talent for taking ideas, and making them my own by adding a little twist. I hope you will bare with me until I create the right formula for creating artwork.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Understood. 🙂


On the matter at hand however, I think that this whole thread may have been corrupted and not just the links. Because just now I replaced them with the newer ones, and they don't work.

So I'm going to try something a little different. If the picture doesn't show up right now, then I'll post it in the testing thread rajee made. And if it works there, then theres something wrong with this thread. If it works in neither, then I'll take it from there. This is just a test. If it works, I'll post the pictures in their correct order.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

GREAT! It works! So now I'll post them all. Should I do it one at a time, or all in one post? Which do you think is better?


- Damien

 

[His Divine Shadow]

Do what Prime and Venray do, all in one post! Although you could put pictures into different threads by series. Example: All Love Hina pics in one thread, all Final Fantasy's in another.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

All in one it is then. Thats easier, and more practical anyways. The only reason I've never done this before was because I didn't want attention being drawn away from my group, the source of this art, and have the TMF get all the benefits of the art being here. Thats still the case, but oh well, I guess. I guess its good and bad at the same time.


Ok, lets go. ^__^

This is Haruka Urashima, taking a break for some sake and a smoke.

This is Motoko Aoyoma, resting after kendo practice.

This is Kaolla Su, gaming on her computer.

This is a Mitsune Konno (aka- Kitsune), back home from work.

Kitsune tickles out a confession of Naru's love for Keitaro.

Here is backwalk42's request for Keitaro Urashima & Kaolla.

Here is critterlord's request for Pai, from 3X3 Eyes. I call it "Pai in a slithery situation". I think its a cute pun. ^___^

Well, thats it. I hope you all can now see it. Enjoy, and please do tell me what you think. ^___^


- Damien

 

[His Divine Shadow]

Only Motoko showed up.....

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Alright, this is BS! Why aren't all of them showing up? Is it a server problem? This is starting to irritate me more. I've never had a problem, and now there is one.

Any suggestions people?


- Damien

 

[His Divine Shadow]

It's Yahoo!. Posting directly from Yahoo! Groups can be a royal pain in the butt, since it often doesn't work right.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

So I've been hearing. Perhaps you've also heard that this hasn't been a problem for me before. Why does it start up now? And when I'm having quite possibly the most important update of my group?!

Rather than tell me whats wrong, which is obvious, can you tell me what I can do?

Sorry for snapping, but this is BS. I can also use the excuse that I've never had to deal with this before. 😛 😀


- Damien

 

[His Divine Shadow]

Well, you could put them in your briefcase and try to link to them there. Or you could put them in your Photos. Or you could make a Geocities site and put them there. Personally, I LOATHE trying to link to Yahoo in any form because of the high suicide rate among those who try.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Now I have more questions. Where is the briefcase? Can I put picture discriptions in the briefcase, and does the briefcase reduce the size of the pictures the way photos does (because I don't want that either)? I don't want geocities, because thats even worse than yahoo from what I've seen. Isn't there some alternative? Or a more reliable server that doesn't crap out as often? Afterall, as long as the server is running smoothly, posting the pictures here won't be a problem.


- Damien

 

[His Divine Shadow]

Try Web1000.com, or HostUltra.com. And your briefcase is accessable from the Yahoo! homepage near the groups and geocities buttons under the search box.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Ok, thanks. I've also made a thread in the General Discussion forum, about this. Hopefully my options will grow. I also want to deal with this as quickly as I can and get back on track. Theres still nothing wrong with the group itself however. So no one is missing out unless they choose to.

Also, could you answer my other questions? You didn't do that.


- Damien

 

[His Divine Shadow]

I believe you can put descriptions in Briefcase and yes, I think it does resize them just like photos.... See what I posted in your server thread.

 

[U.N.Owen]

Geesh, this thread got long fast...

Anyway, I just wanted to say I love the update. All the pics are great, though I especially love the 2 tickle pics (not a big surprise, I admit).

Are you still planning the 2 parter you talked about, with the kid who transforms into a big creature thing, tickling her tickler?

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Of course it got long fast. Theres a problem.

Thank you for the compliments though. Thats some solice I can take in this mess.

No offense, but I don't think you should have added the last part. Its sort of insensitive to ask something like that now when theres this problem I have. Quite frankily, I don't want to draw anything until this situation is rectified. This situation has ruined my thread, and the feedback I was hoping to get by posting more pictures than usual, I probably won't get now because no one wants to bother unless their getting something for it. I guess I just don't want to have to fully accept that this community, and every community has an ugly side. Its when your down like this that its apparent and quite visible. Your not blinded by frustration, anger, dissappointment, or whatever. You see things as they are. I don't like what I see. But for now, one thing is a server going down and ruining this for me. This almost can't be helped. But its a totally different thing when only 4 people try and make the most of it with me. Its sad really, and quite frankily I'm ashamed in some ways. Not of me mind you. My art deserves an audiance, and the "you have an attitude trump card" is getting awefully old, and un-usable for those that would slap that on the table with a smug grin.

Would someone care to explain whats happened over the course of my being here, if only to repeat what I've said, and confirm it? As a contributor, giving you your high, I at least deserve that.


- Damien


PS: Yes, I probably could have handled this post better, but theres only so much you can take. And for me, it was several months. I'm not weak, just too nice. I don't hide behind my rep, nor do I side with others strictly for some advantage, or to save face like some people here do. I'm not as concerned with what people think, only how they deal with it. Its a free country, afterall. I do feel I've been taken for granted on several occasions and every time I update, and I want you to know that sooner or later I might just leave. Much to the sorrow of some, and the delight of others (especially for those whom I'm of the highest competition for). I'm a human being, not a processing machine for your enjoyment.

And no Owen, this wasn't directed at you, obviously. 🙂

 

[U.N.Owen]

No offense taken, but it's not worth getting emotionally overinvested in what is, after all, a technical problem.

You should take it as a compliment that people look forward to your future work, rather than seeing it as pressure, or a demand -- which it was certainly not meant to be (as I think you realize).

As long as people take the time to comment on the stories I've already posted, I have no objection to them asking about the next one, or making requests. Likewise, I like your work, I look forward to your updates. Nothing more was intended than that.

Take deep breaths. Things will sort themselves out. Remember: you ARE appreciated, and that's WHY people want to know what you'll be doing next. An inquiry about the future in no way denigrates the present or past. On the contrary, it confirms the great VALUE of the present and past.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

I already know that, but you just not getting it. Sure, I'm getting that support and sentiment, but only from a few people, and thats sad. I personally need more to see this as worth while anymore. My influence is growing and growing, and the fan/member reply isn't showing that. This is also a game of favoritism, and I don't appriciate that at all. I'm just as good, if not better than the other artists here. How new I am shouldn't matter, only my skill. I have no doubts about my ability, and I'm rather confident of what I can accomplish.

So theres only 3 possible reasons I've been shunned since I got here:


1- They fear me.

2- They are jealous of me.

3- They're using what happened with that copying issue (which was done onto me by the way, not like I was the person that did it), and are using it as a sorry excuse to isolate and ignore me from what appears to be their "inner circle". An inner circle many people here would admit exists, and is one of the reasons they don't care for this place as much anymore.


So please don't give me that sentimental trife. I know you mean well, but that pleasant tune is starting to get old. I don't need consolation right now. I need results. And I know I'm not getting them from a lack of performance or detail in my pictures. Any person with sight can see I'm good. So why isn't the turn out reflecting that? Think about it for a moment. It just doesn't add up. I'm not saying its some conspiracy, but an artist of my caliber (no matter how amateur cause everyone else here is), no matter how new, should have already been on the top and well recognized, and sought after. There seems to be a concious effort to avoid me. This all seems more like a political agenda than anything else.

Well, their only delaying the inevitable. 😛 Cowards. 😀

I've landed, and this place will be mine in due time. 😛 Perhaps theres a fear they'll be replaced. You know, out with the old, and in with the new? 😀 LOL




- Damien

 

[His Divine Shadow]

C_E, just remember that while many may enjoy your work, and many do, most are too lazy to show their appreciation of it.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Well, then they ought to not be lazy. Otherwise, I may withdraw my support for this genre entirely or become exclusive.

I've evaluated the personal posture of the artistic talent we have here, and I can say its not good. Meaning the numbers are few. The effectiveness of the artists lingers, in desperation for new talent. I believe that if I were to leave, it may further the collapse. If not for the newer artists, the genre wouldn't be reinforced. So people ought to be paying a bit more attention, a bit more respect, and a bit more consideration for what we do for us and for THEM. We're totally SELFLESS, and they are being SELFISH.

Besides that, there are some artists here getting more acclaim than I am, and it has nothing to do with the quality of art. I'm just as good as everyone else here, and I give it my all too. As I said in my last post, it doesn't add up. Its funny how they can be lazy with me, but jump for joy when someone else posts their pictures.


- Damien

 

[Guy_Zer0]

Appreciation

Dude, i think your work is friggin great. I wish i could draw half as well as you do. Seriously. I dont talk much on here cause well... Im not good with these posting things and i tend to go on these long tangents and get off the original topic i started.
So im gonna be different and stick to the point. You rule and i like your work.
To recap:
I like your work
I talk too much and trail off 🙂

Consider yourself one of the few lucky ones to hear me ramble 🙂
Peace -Guy Zer0-

 

[His Divine Shadow]

The worlds a strange place, my friend. Sometimes there's nothing you can do but try to stay one step ahead of it. And no matter what, just remember that UNOwen, Critterlord, and I will always be there to cheer you on. You are da man!