a question about foot tickling

[drew70]

I'm afraid I lack the proper medical credentials to say with any certainty. I would guess that bending all the toes back would be better than tying both big toes together. However, I know that my own feet need to be able to flex every now and then or they will get cramps.

 

[steph]

I've had mine tied before~it was awesome! No pain at all and I'm a huge wimp who bruises very easily.

FWIW, Red is kind of revered as a legend in the field. His expertise and demonstations are requested at dungeons, he's tied a dear friend of mine who loved it AND him and I've seen pics of his work~it's absolutely gorgeous, intricate and VERY sexy....
XOXO

 

[Redmage]

Red, I have a question.
What was your MOS and where did you attend training?
And where were you stationed?

My MOS was 91B - Combat Medical Specialist. I went through Basic at Fort Leonard Wood in Missouri, and AIT at Fort Sam Houston in Texas. Fort Sam was also my first duty station. After a year of active duty I transferred to the National Guard in order to attend graduate school at the University of Illinois Health Sciences Center in Chicago, and I can't for the life of me remember what Guard unit I was with there (this was over 20 years ago now). But when I moved to California I joined the 540th Main Support Battalion, and that's where I stayed until I mustered out.

I don't really put much faith in the medical community. Just the other day, a friend went in to have cysts removed from her ovaries. While they were in there they took out her appendix "just in case." I have a 10 inch titanium steel bar attached to my femur from a doctor telling me too soon that it was okay to put weight on my leg after surgery to the femur. I could go on and on about the incompetence of some doctors...
So, I tend to take the advice from someone who has had years of experiance at tying feet than I would from a doctor that sees a case one in a great while.

Just to be clear, I don't have a problem with Nite_Giggler's caution, and I don't question either her sincerity or her medical knowledge. If the ankles aren't immobilized then I agree there is serious danger of damage to the toes from having them tied together.

The only difference I have with NG lies in my doubts that medical doctors have much experience with or understanding of properly done bondage. This is only to be expected: when it's properly done it doesn't cause injuries, so doctors aren't likely to come across it unless they're practitioners themselves.

I've got a question: are medical concerns the same if all toes are bound back? I'd think that any sideways motion (which I think happens a lot more, when just the big toes are bound) is a lot more detrimental to the tendons and joints than if, say, all toes are bound back, to a stock or so (with ankles properly secured). The force is better distributed among the available tendons, so to speak and there is less play, especially sideways.

I've never tried tying all the toes individually, though I know respected ticklers who have. There are a few reasons for that.

Medically, I have some doubts about this. When you tie the big toes together you're joining the two sturdiest toes on the feet. If the ankles are also restrained this braces the feet very well, preventing most movement. Tying the toes individually has several problems by comparison. First, the toes can't support one another as they can when they're tied together. Second, that means you're attaching lines to toes that are much weaker than the big toes, so the risks are greater.

It's trickier to do than it looks, as well: finding proper attachment points is difficult. I'd feel safest about this if it were possible to design a purpose-built apparatus for "total toe bondage" - essentially a padded brace of some sort that could be set flush against the tops of the feet and braced against the ankles, with cords that could be adjusted to hold the toes snugly against the padding. That would give me some confidence of avoiding injury to the weaker toes, but all in all I'd still feel better tying them together.

Steph, Mz Chaos, thanks for your support. I think this has derailed a good thread long enough though. A good ignore list screens out a lot of noise, so I haven't been offended by anything that I've read on this thread.

 

[LindyHopper]

I've had mine tied before~it was awesome! No pain at all and I'm a huge wimp who bruises very easily.

FWIW, Red is kind of revered as a legend in the field. His expertise and demonstations are requested at dungeons, he's tied a dear friend of mine who loved it AND him and I've seen pics of his work~it's absolutely gorgeous, intricate and VERY sexy....
XOXO

I'll add my good word to Steph's here. Red has, in fact, ties MY toes (big toes together only) and ankles too, and then tickled me within inches of my safeword (well, at least a couple of feet... maybe a yard). It felt perfectly safe, and was not at all painful, even after an extended period of time, struggling included. But it greatly reduced my mobility, so I couldn't overlap my feet, or curl my toes as effectively. And I have to say that this immobility conributed to one of the best foot ticklings I've EVER received, so I would certainly recommend this technique. 🙂 Just follow Red's instructions earlier in this thread - they're good ones. Happy tickling!

 

[Redmage]

I'll add my good word to Steph's here. Red has, in fact, tied MY toes (big toes together only) and ankles too, and then tickled me within inches of my safeword (well, at least a couple of feet... maybe a yard).

I believe that's what's called "room for improvement."

And I have to say that this immobility contributed to one of the best foot ticklings I've EVER received, so I would certainly recommend this technique.

Aw, you're sweet.

 

[steph]

"I've never tried tying all the toes individually, though I know respected ticklers who have. There are a few reasons for that."

I have a dear friend who had a device made for him just for that purpose~it worked GREAT~I was dying!


"Steph, Mz Chaos, thanks for your support. I think this has derailed a good thread long enough though. A good ignore list screens out a lot of noise, so I haven't been offended by anything that I've read on this thread."

Oh, well, your welcome babe~I used to be a reporter so if I can steer someone in the right direction with my facts, I will always try to do that.
(Puts on her thinking cap)
Now, hmmmm~how to get you up here to demonstrate for ME! 😛
HEE!
(snickers and runs away...)
XOXO