A Treatise on Self-Righteous Nonsense

[Tidas]

I really like how this has gone, and I feel like I know so many people that I already had a concept of, that much better. Krazie, your post means a lot to me, thank you. (She's my ex now by the by, much to my betterment ;p ) Thank you all for helping me to see things from another perspective. Who knows, maybe i'll make a friend or two?

 

[LD_Tickler]

Did this thread actually just end with respectful conciliation?

Thread, who are you and what have you done with my internet?

 

[Artoo]

Did this thread actually just end with respectful conciliation?

Thread, who are you and what have you done with my internet?

This.

I think this might be a first on this forum. 😉

 

[RobAce]

I really like how this has gone, and I feel like I know so many people that I already had a concept of, that much better. Krazie, your post means a lot to me, thank you. (She's my ex now by the by, much to my betterment ;p ) Thank you all for helping me to see things from another perspective. Who knows, maybe i'll make a friend or two?

I personally consider EVERYONE here at the forum a friend. Until they hurt someone personally, become a troll king, or use internet as a faceless way to bully, trick people or out them after becoming close by posting personal information all over the place hoping to embarass them or make their personal life difficult.

My PM box has no restrictions, I do not ignore people, and I try my best to treat everyone with the decency that I would expect to recieve.

I and many others feel this "clique" thing is unfair to label because it implies that no one can get in except for a chosen few.
This is unfair personally to me. How many great people have I missed out on because they believe what they hear about "The Clique". How many friendships have I missed out on because people assume a certain group of friends blackballs people from the forum?

It is frustrating to me personally because why I may be here for ticking, I STAY here for the friends. I want to meet new people. I want to start new relationships. I want nothing more than to have hundreds of people on my phone list that I can call just to say hi and see how the day is going.

Not everyone answers my threads, I don't expect them to. And if they don't I don't worry about why, Ill just post again when I feel like I have something to say.

Is there a close knit group of friends here on the forum. Yes, actually several close groups. Sometimes they interact, sometimes they don't. But remember all of us at one point in our posting history were new. We all found ways to fit in. I did.....3 years before I went to my first gathering. Is there a magic formula? No. All of us have made our inroads in different ways. Myself. I saw a huge running joke, got involved in the joke, had fun with it even when that joke was turned on me...I laughed along and took it all in stride. Afterwards I was PMed by a lot of people telling me how they were laughing along with me and thought it was really cool the way I just fit into the groove and ran with it. After that, everything just clicked (poor choice of word I know but it works 😀 ) and I began to make amazing friends. It was not by my choice, I did not get into that joke so I could be recognized. I never thought once "gee if I do this I will be popular". No, I was just myself.

I think this overall has been a great thread. Perhaps a few things I disagree with from the original post, but I do not need to rehash that because I think the positives from this thread far out weigh anything negative.

To anyone reading this, all you have to do is PM me and grab a friendship that is waiting.

Rob

 

[alchemy]

Cliques?

No, I'll never join any group that would have somebody like me as a member.

 

[Mister Scruff]

Cute trick Artoo but Ad Hoc arguments are seldom successful. Bella, I know the people in the vocal minority are varied, but this is the internet, everyone can be anyone they want to be. So, that point is basically irrelevant. The cliquers do many things differently than me. They are more social, spend more time in general discussions, probably attend gatherings and munches. I can't go to gatherings, and I don't spend much time in general, so that sets me apart. However, none of these differences matter to my original point, which no one has yet to address. My premises were thus: that there exists a group that is clique-ish in nature, and, that that group sometimes behaves in a manner that is exclusionary to non-members of said group. No one seems to be able to refute this, in fact, your arguments only affirm it. I don't want to be a part of the "inner circle," I just don't want to be trampled over by them either.

Jesus fucking Christ this hat is positively Cretaceous.

"WHY DOESN'T ANYONE LIKE ME I HAVE BEEN SITTING SILENTLY IN THE CORNER FOR YEARS WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE PITY ON ME AND BE MY FRIEND I DON'T JOIN IN BECAUSE SOCIAL SITUATIONS INTIMIDATE ME BAWW YOU ARE HATEFUL CLIQUE FUCKERS BECAUSE YOU WON'T TALK TO ME BAWWWW"

Everyone who cries "clique!" because they're social retards who don;t go to gatherings needs to either learn to make the effort, or alternatively go away. It would probably be funny if I wasn't 99% sure that every man-jack of you whiny knob-cheeses weren't just pissing and moaning because the pretty girls with the photos in their sig bars aren't falling over themselves to lick your balls. Actually scratch that, it's past funny now. Fucking stop it.

People ignore you because you don't give them a reason not to, you boring, needy, insecure, utterly self-interested person. Not "everyone" took issue with your first post. A total of 2 people did. Nobody else cared; not because you're not a card-carrying Cabalite, but because what you're saying is 100% pure wank. It has continued to be 100% pure wank, and until you abandon this indefensible position of "innocent victim" everything you say relating to this topic will continue to be pure wank.

But seriously, where's your concrete evidence that there's a clique, one and two, how it's completely impeding on your time downloading, watching and commenting on work done here, if there is one?

If you haven't worked it out by now, The Clique is the cartoon villain onto which socially inept TMF members project their inadequacies. Gentlemen members tend to blame The Clique when the pretty young ladies with pics in their sig bars don't fall over themselves to interact. Ladies blame The Clique when they feel they aren't getting enough attention to satiate their inquenchable lust for attention and not every male member of the forum finds them sexy. Or even bearable.

Thus, we can infer that since The Clique is a cartoon villain who exists only in the minds of socially inept individuals there can be no concrete proof of it's existence anywhere other than in the heads of socially inept individuals. Have you ever noticed how none of the most vocal opponents of The Clique have ever banded together to form some sort of anti-Clique movement? Yeah. That's because they're socially inept.

S'funny, 'cos I haven't noticed it.

You do it to me all the time. Remember that time when I sent you that nice picture of the man disdending his anus with his fingertips? You didn't fucking reply to that at all. You snotty bastard.

 

[BellaRisa]

Jesus fucking Christ this hat is positively Cretaceous.

"WHY DOESN'T ANYONE LIKE ME I HAVE BEEN SITTING SILENTLY IN THE CORNER FOR YEARS WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE PITY ON ME AND BE MY FRIEND I DON'T JOIN IN BECAUSE SOCIAL SITUATIONS INTIMIDATE ME BAWW YOU ARE HATEFUL CLIQUE FUCKERS BECAUSE YOU WON'T TALK TO ME BAWWWW"

Everyone who cries "clique!" because they're social retards who don;t go to gatherings needs to either learn to make the effort, or alternatively go away. It would probably be funny if I wasn't 99% sure that every man-jack of you whiny knob-cheeses weren't just pissing and moaning because the pretty girls with the photos in their sig bars aren't falling over themselves to lick your balls. Actually scratch that, it's past funny now. Fucking stop it.

People ignore you because you don't give them a reason not to, you boring, needy, insecure, utterly self-interested person. Not "everyone" took issue with your first post. A total of 2 people did. Nobody else cared; not because you're not a card-carrying Cabalite, but because what you're saying is 100% pure wank. It has continued to be 100% pure wank, and until you abandon this indefensible position of "innocent victim" everything you say relating to this topic will continue to be pure wank.



If you haven't worked it out by now, The Clique is the cartoon villain onto which socially inept TMF members project their inadequacies. Gentlemen members tend to blame The Clique when the pretty young ladies with pics in their sig bars don't fall over themselves to interact. Ladies blame The Clique when they feel they aren't getting enough attention to satiate their inquenchable lust for attention and not every male member of the forum finds them sexy. Or even bearable.

Thus, we can infer that since The Clique is a cartoon villain who exists only in the minds of socially inept individuals there can be no concrete proof of it's existence anywhere other than in the heads of socially inept individuals. Have you ever noticed how none of the most vocal opponents of The Clique have ever banded together to form some sort of anti-Clique movement? Yeah. That's because they're socially inept.



You do it to me all the time. Remember that time when I sent you that nice picture of the man disdending his anus with his fingertips? You didn't fucking reply to that at all. You snotty bastard.

Um, Beavis? The thread already ended, and on a positive and friendly note; don't ruin it

 

[Knot Amewzed]

Every response to mine has only served to further illustrate my point. All I did was point out that there is a dominant inner circle of friends and "cool kids" on the forum, and everyone that took issue with what I said, for the most part, is a member of said group. I am not disparaging anyone, or begrudging anyone their friendship, but it does seem like semi-lurkers like myself are ignored/pushed to the side by the vocal minority of the cliques. I deactivated my first two accounts here before this one, purely because my posts were ignored by the inner circle in favor of posts made by other members of the inner circle.

Perhaps persistence, openness, and thick skin prevail over said dominance. I lurked the first 4 years before I decided to change my screen name in 2006 and became active. I have never felt pushed aside, or ignored. What have I done differently then you? Perhaps once you discover the secrets to building friendships through common interests, support, and mere conversation; you may find yourself in the midst of a compassionate, friendly, and unbiased group of people. I wish you luck! PM me if you need to talk.

 

[Mister Scruff]

Um, Beavis? The thread already ended, and on a positive and friendly note; don't ruin it

BUT I NEED TP FOR MY BUMHOLE


Also I withdraw my comment. Sort of. Let's call it a cautionary tale of why you should always read all 4 pages of a thread before responding, otherwise you make yourself look a twat 😀

 

[TklDuo-Ann]

Let's call it a cautionary tale of why you should always read all 4 pages of a thread before responding, otherwise you make yourself look a twat 😀

LOL Been there. Done that. Felt like an ass as well.

 

[Black Hat]

Mister twat...hmm?? 😉

Seriously, though, like many here have already said. It's just a matter of putting yourself out there and making new friends. There are no borders if you're not afraid to cross them.

 

[Deleted member 66627]

BUT I NEED TP FOR MY BUMHOLE


Also I withdraw my comment. Sort of. Let's call it a cautionary tale of why you should always read all 4 pages of a thread before responding, otherwise you make yourself look a twat 😀

tl;dr strikes back!

 

[Tidas]

Lol, this thread has been like drunk sex. Anger, confusion, reconciliation, and ultimately despite the shame of it all, something positive comes out of it. (and yes the pun is intended)

 

[Deleted member 66627]

Lol, this thread has been like drunk sex. Anger, confusion, reconciliation, and ultimately despite the shame of it all, something positive comes out of it. (and yes the pun is intended)

bwahahah epic analogy is epic.

 

[Deusxlionxx]

I'm pretty sure that people who lurk decide to do so of their own volition, and while the fear of being shot down by regular posters might feel very real, the testimony of the many delurkers that show up here would strongly argue against it.

Let me personally attest that as a lurker for the better part of three years, I shared your fear of 'rejection' and balked at the larger postings on here. I even went so far as to ask one of the other members here as to what I was doing wrong, and I quote:

“There isn't really any sort of clique. It just seems that way because of how close knit some folks in the community are. -- It's a little overwhelming at first-- believe it or not, at one time I was there myself.

The key is just to keep posting as you are and reaching out to folks as you've done to me. There really isn't any "secret" to this. Just post, talk with folks and that's about it.”

To be honest, the only reason I asked about a 'clique' was because I thought it was some inside joke. There was another thread on here recently talking about what attracts people to certain posts... Look into it.

The best piece of advice I have gotten was in that mail, and it was what determined me to become more actively involved. Yes, there could be considered a core group here, but that's because they've been doing this together for the last umteen years. Us newer posters aren't going to share their inside jokes, their experiences, unless we become more involved ourselves. Develop your own personality, your own friends, GET TO KNOW PEOPLE YOURSELF, and don't try to piggy back off of someone elses posting.
I happen to think Im doing just fine in that area, so it shouldnt be that hard.

I agree that you have a right to rant, and to be honest, freedom of speech is such a wonderful aspect to this community. What I don't like is this mentality that you are being solely excluded. Hell, look at Jo - she seems to be one of the most connected people on here and yet has remained one of the nicest people you could talk to. Just because someone gives it to you straight doesn't mean that they want you off.

 

[TickleSwitch24]

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First of all, I apologize for my lateness. I didn't see the post. Threads don't die until they're deleted.

I will speak from personal experience, and personal experience only.

I do not see a clique. Sometimes I do see groups of people who *appear* to think their opinion is worth more because they post more, but it's nothing to light torches about. I don't think it is some organized tickling mafia.

However, I have seen things from the past from a very limited number "elitists" that I thought was pretty ignorant. My example (which will remain somewhat obscure) is this: I saw a post that included elements of incest (which was obviously pure fantasy) and the first reply to it was a "get the fuck off this forum you sicko" kind of reply by a respected long-time poster.*edit* the post contained no actual incest or pedophilia... just want to make that clear *edit* Now, I am not into incest, but my thought was... isn't this a place of respect and openness? I mean, if I don't like a subject, I just don't reply. I can see how tickling is a much less revolting fetish than most, but I don't see how it should be flamed as long as it is posted in the correct forum, and had no hostile intent. It didn't stop me from posting or making friends or going to gatherings, I just thought it was kind of a bad example to show from a respected poster, and I probably won't become friends with that person. This is not the only time I've seen it but I don't see the point in listing them all.

For those that would say that anyone "flaming" posts is expressing their opinion and there's nothing wrong with that, I would say that's true, but freedom and liberty do not come without responsibility. If you want to have a long signature with personalized pics and a really cool *color* feather with lots of friends, there is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with that, and I think it's a great thing and I'm happy to see a forum where people can socialize about tickling. Just remember that people watch what you say, and don't forget, even though not every screename has a face, we're all people. Just because we can say whatever we want (for the most part) without punity doesn't mean we need to, and just because we have freedom of expression doesn't mean it's a good thing to put people down who have the opposite opinion. Parts of his original post were, I think, true. The fact that it was in rant format is what caused the most controversy. Once it was articulated with less emotion, the message was more clear. I'm really impressed that the thread became a little more intellectual with time.